Pac, tell us what religion did your parents, family practice when you were a child and did you rebel against it.

I totally agree with your comments. Unfortunately there are a great many very VOCAL dissenters, who just can't graciously agree to disagree.

Tenaj, what does this have to do with what relgion I was practicing? I don't mind answering it, but just curious as to why this particular question.

I was born in Iran, and moved here about the age of 7. In Iran, my grnadmother would take me to the mosque where we had to take our shoes off before entering. I didn't know too mauch at the age of 7 and went along with the gag.

My dad had already divorced by the time I reached the Americas. He raised both my sister and I. My father was never religous, but my grandmother, a couple of aunts are still to this day. They are muslims, and still pray 5 times a day facing east.

Around 1977 my sister joined the Mormon religion and left home for a tear while on a mission. My father was very upset with her for doing this and when she returned home, she was continuing her practice for a few months. I remeber my dad screaming at her because she used to bring food made at home, to the church every sunday.

I was never religious at the time, but I did study the bible, and some other religions. I did at one time believe in the bible. My dad thought I was nuts, but i didn't care. He was on the fence about the whole thing, and never really showed his true colors. I did once catch him in a lie about the existence of god and his disbelief, but years later he denied that he said it.

When I was about 22 years old I realized that I may have been wrong about this whole religion thing, because of all the different religions out there, and it occured to me that they can't all be right. I started to question and do research on the subject. As time went on, I came to the conclusion that since they all can't be right, there has to be a way to solve this riddle. There was no solution, so I researched even more, looking at science. Science made more sense to me, but it wasn't the end all either, but it was a good start.

After having access to a computer, the picture became even more clear.

According to the christians, my currently living grandmother who is 103 years old, and has been faithfully praying everday of her life will be tortured in hell for not accepting christ as the savior.

I hope the above paragraph shows why I dislike all religious instituions.

Got religion?

Thank you for sharing Pac. I kinda figured something like that.

I remember my Mom screaming at me because I was listening to a religion she didn't like. So I know how you and your sister felt.

God bless your grandmother.

Pac, I've read that each religion teaches what their founders brought back with them when looking on the other side of the veil. Maybe each religion is going in a similar direction with the imposition of particular rituals which worked for those original founders and most followers .... but sometimes it isn't a one size fits all world.

No problem Tenaj. It was my pleasure. Yeah moms can be strict at times.

Actually, I saw my mom for the very first time since I was about 4 years old. It happened back in 1998. She flew from Holland to Los Angeles, to my dad's house in Van Nuys, and bought me a round trip ticket to see her since over 30 years back in 1998. She also brought my step sister who looked eeringly like my sister...lol

It was a strange event to say the least. To me, she was a total stranger, because how much can you really remember at the age of 4? and I was 33 years old at the time of the reunion. Anyway....I remember that moment when I arrived at LAX airport. She threw the biggest crying scene that got the attention of about 75 people sitting at the gate. It was very embarrasing but i know how emotional moms can get, so I didn't really mind deep down. We had a nice week, but she didn't say much. There was a language barrier there. I forgot most of my Pharsi (persian lnaguage), and she hardly knew any english. It's just not the same when you have other family memebers interpretating for you...lol

Konane, point taken, but where i disagree is that each religion, especially the christian one has strict, narrow rules in order to enter heaven. If one or more rules are not met, you can get yourself in hot water.

If in the other case, everyone knew for sure that you just have to be a good person to enter heaven, there wouldn't be all the wars that are never ending. But we all know this isn't the case. That's where I find it hard to believe.

You can't belch on wednesdays, and you can't go out on saturdays.

You have to eat these foods or else.

You have to know which one is the right religion in the first place. This should've been number one on my list. What was I thinking?

And the list of my questions go on and on and on and on. Just like the endless universe.

That's another thing. How can God create something that has no ending?

The universe has no ending right? So how can anyone finish the job? It doesen't matter how fast you are, the job can never be done....Hmmmm

Pac, that's why I've been investigating metaphysical stuff for about 30 years and find it makes more sense. Also find many well known, highly respected channeled information to be fascinating because much of it deals with quantum world so have a concrete means of somewhat validating their information.

Scare tactics coercion is old energy that maybe used to work back in the witch burning days. Come to think of it "Prey TV" isn't what it used to be either.

There is a difference between disagreeing and trolling. You are obviously referring to me, and for some reason, can't let it go. Why? because you are a child! I posted a blog on a serious issue about the slaughter of animals and your comment was rude and entirely off topic. You also act like a 2 year old calling others idiots & morons, and then use very large, bold font to get attention. Now you are saying a response disagreeing will prove your point.

You can say, do, write whatever you please, Pac. It's just that if you say "I love ice cream with chocolate syrup" in August and then someone in March writes during a discussion about losing weight that "you might have to give up the ice cream & chocolate syrun" that person is not criticizing you or even passing judgment or, as you put it "being a rat."

The way to react to something you believe is an insult certainly isn't to go off the deep end and start swearing and name calling. All it does is reinforces what that person wrote, even if it was only a joke. If I said somethng about getting a job in an office and you said "now you'll have to give up hooking, Nancy" I'd probably make a joke out if it, since the only thing I ever hooked was a rug. I wouldn't get bent out of shape and tell you to "go eff yourself." (Paranoid?) However, if I said several times on the board that I enjoy sleeping around and I sometimes get paid for it, I shouldn't act totally shocked if someone hinted that I've been a lady of the evening.

I guess some people take internet boards way too seriously because it's the only place where they feel powerful and can vent their anger without consequence. We all do it. I've acted out of character online many time, however, some people go a little too far because they don't know when to stop.

No justx. I didn't block you did I? You can say whatever is on your mind. You can call me a child and anything you want to. It doesen't bother me because I've come to the realization that some people can't take someone else's opinion without a fight. If I can't state my opinion here about cheap rich folks, where can I?

Do you really think that your response qualifies making my point about disagreeing? Absolutely not. I already know your agenda, so it doesen't count. I'm looking for new blood...lol . If they don't like the answer to a public board then it's a bad thing. I don't mind you calling me a child. I give you the opportunity. But that is just one person's opinion. The problem I have is when people twist things around. I was talking about rich stingy folks. Near the end of the thread, it got all twisted around based on my financial situation. I wasn't talking about my finacial status in life but rich flok. I think I reinforced that correction a few times with no avail.

Can you really call me childish because I point out some defeciencies concerning facts about the original issue or post by the poster?

Konane, Sounds like you have level headed outlook. I too believe that Quantum phsics is the next exciting discovery. I'm open to just about anything that has some common sense to it. I know Quantum phsics doesen't deal with common sense, but I have to first be open to the most radical ideas if I want to learn anything at all. Can you imagine the looks on people's faces when they were told the earth is not the center of the universe?...lol

Thanks Pac! Have read the earth is a dimension of frozen thought so it's going to be amazing when scientists develop repeatable experiments showing that our mind does in fact influence and often construct events and forms we call reality. Sages knew it thousands of years ago but lacked the ability to prove it.

If you have time and the inclination take a look at this about halfway down the page. I find the information interesting and since it's in print we can always go back and verify its accuracy when a discovery is made. "The New Laws of Physics
http://kryon.com/k_chanelshasta_2_07.html

I just found a good musical video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZMJDx-Qp_c&feature=user