Now thats what I call remaining anonymous!!!!

It's possible in the UK because they have no taxes on lottery prizes, so you really can just stick it in the bank without anyone knowing.

Since the lottery is the state selling paper for $1 while giving back 50 cents of their revenue in prizes, I would say that each buyer of lottery tickets has already paid a 50 cent tax to the state by buying a ticket. State income tax on lottery winnings is unconscionable. Talk about the states double dipping.  

man ...money makes people do some funny things

Maybe her Rolls Royce parked in front of the house created a guilty conscious.

Ahhhh love and marrage, based on compromise- NOT.  One person thinking they know whats better then another person about what is best for the other person.  Where have I seen that before?  The person did something the other didn't like, so know they try to control the environment of that person. Why? Because they can - they are superior!

smart woman!!!

She was very smart to hide it from him, but very stupid to call a radio station and talk about. It the tabloid journalists track her down, she will have only herself to blame. Whatever about money buying happiness, it seems you can't buy wisdom.

What a sneaky lyin controlling broad! She won't tell the husband because he might wanna take off work, then she cuts back on her hours. Hope he find out , takes his fair share , then goes on a long wild vacation without her!

I agree she is a smart woman!

yes and starts back on drugs.

Emily, If he was able to kick his "Small Drug Habit 15 years ago" why would money change things now? People quit certain habits and never look back. They do things when they're young and dumb, because they're young and dumb! If he was good enough to keep in the family for the last 15 years and be part of her "happy little family unit",  then he's good enough to share the winnings with!

Yes she is a very smart woman. She is still a MILLIONARE! Her response to the question ("Is money guaranteed to make you happy?") could have been..."No my husband depleted our Lottery winings on drugs, and now we are broke." Again, a smart woman!!

Konformthismsf, please don't hate, congratulate! We can't judge her relationship/marriage: she knows her husband better than we do! You mentioned lying -- she never admitted to him that she won the money. Therefore, she didn't lie.

Finally, the possibility of the husband taking off work is only a morsel in the smorgasbord of goodies. What if he actually went back to his old drug ways? Hey, with all that money, he could go buck wild, devastating the little, cozy nest she has prepared. Why risk it all!

This is a great story, but I do feel bad for the husband.  He's missing out on a lot!  If he finds out (which is now likely), he will probably file for divorce ASAP.

Dphillips, she has lied many times over too him! I work at home now honey, i got a rise, i got a bonus.... Face the facts shes a lyin cheating sneaky woman.  She called the show to release some of her guilt. If the situation was reversed  i wonder what the response would be from all the women here?

The man was a drug addict for heavens sake.  I've seen a drug addict sale the refrigerator out of the home with 4 kids and fight the person who was feeding the kids because they wanted the money for drugs.  Sometimes you have to do what you have to do to save people from themselves and keep them from hurting others.

You can't reason with someone on drugs.  It's obvious that she cares for him otherwise she would have divorced him.

There's no difference if the situation would have been reversed.  He would have been protecting the family like a man should.

We will see won't we?  Storyline reads: Man whose wife hide lottery winning is on drugs again.LOL

In general, I applaud her for living modestly.  That is wise.

However she has a serious problem with trust in her marriage.

I would not trade my wife for all this woman's money. 

ummmm, isn't it marital money and isn't he entitled just like here in the U.S. Sounds like theft to me.

She apparently thought he was reformed enough to father the 2 young children...

with the exception of the drug thing... she is lying because she fears he would want to do what 99% of lottery winners would?

that's insane... what if he hates his job but keeps it for her and the kids... I would wager she was lying about the whole affair... if (when? LOL) I would win millions, I would want to let my wife know we could spend much more time together (stress-free time, to boot!) and with the kids. I couuld see shielding the children to some extent for their own benefit (develop a positive work ethic... that starts earlier than most people think... learning the value of a dollar (pound?)... safety)

Either it's a fabrication or she hates him...

tenaj- her own words! "Jane" replied, "Fear that it would change our lives too dramatically. My husband had, many years ago, a small drug problem — around 15 years ago.

Small drug problem 15 years ago doesn't makes someone a drug addict! If it did most of us would be tagged as "Drug Addicts".  Our country has been ran for the last 14 years by 2 admitted "years ago drug users" Are they "Drug Addicts"? .  Sounds more to me like she has to dirty him up to make herself appear and feel better. If he was good enough to stay with for 15 years after the fact and help with the mortgage and kids then he should be good enough to be included on all life changing decisions.... The sneaky lyin wench probably even made him go buy the ticket with his money and lied to him about winning! LOL

are you and chewie brothers???   

My brother's nickname is Chewbaca! But only cause he looks like the starwars guy...

Its not hate.. Trust me If I won a Million Bucks there is no way that my hubby would touch it... Been Married for 24 years but I know him well .. We would be broke in a week........its not hate it called Watching ya back...

Amen

Think about this... She could have left his A** with nothing !!!!!found a boyfriend. Moved to Japan and lived happy for ever and ever. But no she stayed with this man and wanted her family and life to stay the same. .. Look at the other lives that have been up rooted because of the winning in the past... Hello Smart Women Man does not think with head....

If I won a million bucks the mrs. and I would plan it out together.

partnership... it works for what we earn now and it would no doubt work for more money.

if that is how she is, then it probably have been better for him if she DID leave his a** with nothing...

there's no way, it has to be a made up story just to get her on the air... 

who cares what's better for him - she assured her family a secure future. 

When you KNOW what kind of spouse you have, sometimes it is best to keep quiet.  She might need the money to put him in rehad one day if he relapses.

So I guess, if your wife was a shop-aholic fifteen years ago, and you have some extra money, you're justified in keeping it quite.  Who knows she may want a divorce some day and the man would loose control of the funds.  Obviously, any excuse is a good excuse.  Something that happened 15 years previously over rules any "in sickness or health" clause.  I have to remember that the next time I hear a woman complain about her husband not communicating in their marriage.

Facts are facts: She is concealing the truth from her spouse which she tries to justify for "his own good". Its a form of lying, plan and simple. Most times *money* in a marriage is a *control* tactic. He/She who has it makes the rules! Regardless of the overwhelming concensus that a drug user surely cant handle money, check your history books ! Betty Ford did wonders for the recovering alcoholics and I didnt see her go out and blow off her family fortune! Although she DID donate ALOT of money to charities and worthy causes. Sorry but I dont underestimate the power of humans to gain help and maintain recovery, especially after 15 years!

wait one second here.he had a drug problem and she was an angel.weather they were married or just living together, i fined it hard to believe .birds on a feather flock together.people do change.my highschool years was one big party back then ,but i'm doing pretty good today.sound like theres no trust in that marrage.

This deal works both ways as I see it

How many husbands conceal money from their wives?
Guite a few I am sure. They keep their wives in the dark on what they are worth. What they make etc,etc. Goes on all the time.

if she couldn't trust her husband with large sums of money... why was she even playing?

for her family's security

When I was at Cherokee Casino once a man sitting next to me playing Lucky 7's poker won a whopping amount of money.  He cashed in and put the money in his pocket.  Later his wife/girlfriend? came up and asked if he had been lucky and he said no.  I couldn't believe it.  LOL

I had just lost lots of money on that machine and moved over one seat hoping it will help and he sat down and within 5 minutes won the jackpot.  go figure. 

Tenaj, some people have all the luck.  Since I don't player POKER but the slot machines, usually when I'm with friends and they ask me if I won, I'm so elated to share the winning experience with them.

Here's a story: when I was living on the east coast and visiting Atlantic City casinos (my second home away from home), I met this lady on the bus, whom I didn't know who befriended me, and upon arriving at the casino, treated me to breakfast. 

So, after breakfast, we played the slots...when suddenly...I looked around and she was standing next to me.  She told me: "I'm going to walk around because I ran out of money." I reached into my jacket and gave her $50.00 to play with. 

Next. I returned to my machine, doing my 'thing'-- looking for my great reward (instead of the one allegedly in Heaven on judgment day) -- when a lady (not my new friend) ran up to me excitedly saying: "look, your friend is jumping up and down at her machine!" I immediately left my machine to find out what the excitement was about -- when my new friend told me she had won $250.00, and if it weren't for me, she wouldn't have won.  I was just as excited as she was, and lo, and behold, she told everyone who would listen that I was the one who helped her out.

MORAL OF THE STORY: you never know how or when your luck will return -- whether its onefold, twofold, or fourfold -- in the course of your lifetime. This applies to the lottery as well!

Em, thank you for your words of wisdom.....you're right on each account.

dphillips,

Did the lady return your $50?  I've never thought giving money to other people to gamble would change my luck but just help me lose my money faster.

I guess I'll add my 2 cents. I am on the side of those who said she's being a control freak. Even though I understand this lady's fear, I don't agree with her at all. Many years ago I was married to a very irresponsible man and would worry about the same problem...not drugs necessarily (although he liked getting high) but spending it on trips to Vegas, cars and partying.  Yet I found out 20 years later he became a very successful businessman and runs an international company. People change. In fact, I seem to be heading in the opposite direction.  Anyway, the one thing I know is that I could never live in a marriage without trust.  I'm not judging her, since she wants to keep the family together. But it does sound as if she has no faith in her husband which is sad. I agree that both men & women keep secrets from each other, but I wonder how she'd feel if he won money and hid it from her. 

Anyway, this story probably isn't even true, because couldn't she hire an attorney to set up a trust and protect the money for her children?  

It may be the late hour that I read this post but, I got a laugh thinking about her hiding 1.5 million pounds around there house.  There getting ready for work in the moring and he goes to grab something out of the fridge she stops him and gets it for him because she has hidden stacks of bills in the compartments.  Sounds like something in a lotto commercial,  that's probably what she wants to be on TV, she missed her 15 minutes the first time around wanted the attention and is now making up a story to get the press interested.

I sure needed luck with those lucky 7's.  My brothers taught me to play poker. ( I have 10 brothers) but it's not a game I play well or often, but when I go to the casino I like to play poker and blackjack.

The card game I like the best is "Whist"  I'm good at that.  But that guy lied to his wife and I'm sure he knew better.LOL

And you are right.  You never know how your money will come back to you.

Tenaj, no she didn't return the money. Although she won, I didn't expect her to return my $50.00. Nevertheless, as far as luck is concerned, within 6 months I won $4,150.00, playing  the slots at two different Atlantic City, NJ casinos on Monday, February 17 and Tuesday, February 18, 1997. I never forgot that windfall...I even recorded it in my calendar (which I still have).

Finally, I admit -- I got lucky and my luck probably had no connection with my being nice to someone (or was it?)

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The Thrill? Loves to gamble?  The addiction of greed? The imfamous envy syndrome?  Maybe the old man isn't the only one with a problem, she being the woman, does a better job of deceit.  The power trip would be hard to turn down.  She holds a grudge a long time, 15 years of hiding her fears - and contempt.  You never caught me with my problem, so I am superior!

chewie - you don't like women much - eh?

Emily...I always respect your posts and have told you so, but you think that deceit is OK in a marriage? For something 15 years ago? And, don't you think the money could be put in a trust and only a certain amount per year could be pulled out? There are other ways to handle this, but you instead side with someone not being truthful. Why, because she is a woman? If this was a man, I'd love to see your responses. Still think you are nice, just disagree with you wholeheartedly. Expound more than one sentence if you don't mind, love to know where you are coming from. And, if the role was reversed sexually, what would you think?

Question. Which story do we like the most.

Women wins 1.7 million pounds. Husband spends it up in less than ayear on expensive living and long holidays in exotic destinations.

                                      OR

Women wins 1.7million pounds and secures financial stability for her families future by knowing that revealing a tremendous win to a husband whose habit she knows better than anyone else may jeopardize everything that she played for.

He will eventually find out. Because she has proved.....her lips can be loose.

litebets

I read the other day that 52% of all marriages end in divorce, to me that is an indication of how much a spouse should trust their better half.  If you watch the TV show "Cheaters", you might think it could be even worst.

That was me that asked that question, not Tenaj.  If I give $50 to a strange lady I don't expect it back either but I do expect to get lucky but not at the casino table if you know what I mean.

Isn't that sad?  According to the so-called experts, the #1 reason couples fight is about money.  The number #2 reason for arguments is sex. So if you had lots of money, wouldn't that resolve a lot of the marital problems? In the case of the mystery woman here, she's afraid her spouse will return to his old lifestyle, which doesn't make sense if he's been working for all these years.  That being said, I knew a man who came from a very poor family and invested in land in the 70s, got so stinking rich in the 80s that he bought a yacht, a mansion and a couple of expensive sports cars, one being a Ferrari. After that he started drinking a lot and had a few lost weekends (or lost months!)  He cleaned his act up and was still very, very rich because he had invested most of it in real estate in the first place.  When I read his obituary last year, I thought "why didn't I marry this dude?" I know - because of reason number 2.  Boy was he lousy.  God forgive me, but right now if I were a wealthy widow, that wouldn't matter to me in the least.  But 2/20 is such painful hindsight! 

I happen to love women.  I just happen to dislike hypocrites who say one thing and do another, or change with  the wind.  I dislike TV situation comedy's that make the man the bumbling fool, but portray the women as the senseble person.  When an opportunity arises to to destroy the myth, I stand and express the truth.  People don't like it, but, as every one knows, I don't care.

i agree with all your points.

"i agree with all your points."

Thanks Iesha. I often agree with your comments too which proves the saying that 2 brilliant minds think alike.

I was wondering about her paying taxes on the money but that's great if the UK have no taxes lottery prizes. I would do the same thing too because I could see my family changing with a big windfall. Must be nice not having to worry about paying the bills and taking some time off from work. You go Girl!!!!!

Call her a liar if you want to.  Call her a cheat if you want to!  I prefer to call her a very SMART WOMAN!  Yeah, you who disagree with her decision would be ridiculing her when they went broke because her husband used it up on drugs, and the childrens'lives were left in shambles.  Then who would be there to support the children????  The world ridiculed Jack Whittaker and others who made unwise decisions with their lottery winnings.  It is her money and she can exercise the her right to make the wisest decision(s) when it comes to how it is to be spent.  Did it EVER occur to any of you who think she is being deceptive that she might be doing the best thing for her husband and children.  There is no utopia here on this earth.  Get over it already!

This is the battle of the sexes.  It can go on forever.  It's obvious that this woman wanted this man around to kept the family intact.  It's too bad she had to use deceit to do it, but a woman have to do for her children what a woman have to do.  Some women stay in bad relationships waiting for children to grow up or go off to college. 

Somehow I feel she thought she would lose him.  It's possible with that much money he would have divorced or left her and the children. 

"The world ridiculed Jack Whittaker and others who made unwise decisions with their lottery winnings. "  mylollipop

We all have the right to our opinions here, so I'll respect yours. But regarding Jack Whittaker,  he gave away quite a bit of his prize to the homeless and built a church and other charitable groups.  He started a foundation to feed and clothe poor people in West VA and create jobs.  He even bought a house and a car for the cashier who sold him his winning ticket. Mr. Whittaker suffers from alcoholism, but his drinking problem didn't begin when he won all that money, and I certainly wouldn't say he blew all his money on it either. This is a very different situation, since Mr. Whittaker was already worth over a million when he won the PB.  I don't know why I'm defending the man, because he certainly never gave me any money, but his name is brought up every time there's a discussion like this. 

I still don't approve of lying to one's spouse, but if she is so sure her husband wouldn't be responsible with the money, then maybe I shouldn't judge her so harshly. However,  if she does not have her money invested wisely and it's kept secretly from her family, should she become critically ill or die in an accident tomorrow, her children will never benefit from her good fortune and her husband will become a single working Dad with 2 children. If she's so sure he'd blow it all, then I certainly hope she's met with a good lawyer or appointed an executor of her will to manage her money should something unexpected arise.

Maybe her husband or his buddies were listening to the broadcast on his lunch break so her secret's out now!  If she really needed to vent (and she's not making this whole story up) she should have paid a shrink or gone to a priest. At least they're sworn to secrecy!

I figured that Emily would let someone else answer for her. But still, if it was the other way around, not one of you has answered what you would be saying then. Also, exactly the point I was trying to make as well, when you lie or deceive your spouse and no one knows what you have, if you die tomorrow, you will be the only one that benefitted in the long run, and that is pure selfishness, no matter if she was a male doing the same thing to his family. Does anyone agree (mainly females)? I am not here to bash any female's opinion, just hope your marriages are more trusting than this one.

her own words ..."he would give up work and start demanding luxury holidays."

that really is the only reason i'm sticking-up for her. 

SILENCE IS GOLDEN...THAT'S A FACT.THERE AREN'T ANY TAXES ON LOTTERY WINS IN THE UK OR ALL OF EUROPE . A BIG PLUS.

Without knowing the players involved on a personal level, it seems to me that this woman has an issue with control.  I get the feeling that she tucked the money away so he could not spend any of "her" money.  I can understand wanting to hide a large sum of money away from friends, coworkers, and those not in her immediate family, but her husband?  Must be lonely living where she is...

 I have a feeling that there is more here than what this woman revealed on this talk show. Women who tend to hide things from their husbands are usually in some form of abusive relationships. They don't always talk to the world about the abuse until it gets out of hand or gets out into the public in some way. They will usually paint a rosie picture perfect marriage, but behind the scene, they are planning the great escape by putting away for a rainy day. I hope she is smart enough to have invested some of her winning in her childrens names and have consulted with their legal system. I also hope that she has provided for the husband incase something happens to her.

Just think, they don't have to worry about "Uncle Sam" sticking it to them, just before they stick the money into their Bank Accounts......hmmm, must be nice.......

I do believe her story.....

1/24/2006

Happy Tuesday...."Just"

I appreciated your posting, as I always enjoy reading them, however...I must share this:

1st..You'd be surprised the number of Husbands, who withhold money from their wives and families..Some Men are  expert at holding back money....and doing it w/an innocent smile on their faces.....They'll lie to you in a "heart beat" knowing full well it's all in the wallet. 

2nd...Based on "jane's" story, she has obiviously learned a valuable lesson about finances and lifestyle, being married to a "former drug user"..he's already proven how irresponsible he can be. This "win" has given her the prime opportunity to put things right for her family, and I take my hat off to her.

3rd....I'm sure she has an  "Iron clad Will" w/an Attorney to back that up...If she's as financially savvy as she apopears to be, her children will never want for anything, no matter what happens to her, in the future.

4th...I doubt her husband will ever find out, until she wants him to.  She's come this far..3 years

1/24/2006

oh...yeah amazing,  and many of you "men" out there do it 24-7......so pleessssee give me a break.......thanks .."CHEWIE"

Hey, libra926, you brought to memory a situation that I know of personally.  18 years ago, a man I know was killed in a plane crash.  He was a wealthy construction worker.  He had a wife, three adult children and three grand children.  He provided for his family, siblings, and a few faithful employees.  Then surprise, suprise of AaaallllLLL surprises;  he had a condo right under his family's nose in the city they lived in.  A few months before he was killed in the crash, his wife found out that he had a condo in Las Vegas!  Now that was keeping secrets.  We do not know her story, True, but we ALL know that the Perfect Marriage is a fairytale. 

There is no gender-ism here.  If a man knew his wife would blow the earnings on drugs due to proven past irresponsibility, he would be foolish to open his wife back up to temptation! 

Would you give an alcoholic a bottle of vodka?  Would you?  Especially when you know the alcoholics' history?  Too much money in the hands of the wrong people WILL destroy.  I hate to go back to the tragic Whittaker family, but the added wealth was the final point for that family.  The exposure from the Christmas Day winnings helped to destroy that family.  The grand daughter's habits changed and led to the demise of a friend, then finally her.  Yes, Mr. Whittaker did good  and the publicity helped to destroy his good.

She has a secret, but she is NOT selfish with her winnings.  He benefits just the same!!!!  She tells him that she has a raise.  Have you self-righteous critics forgotten the fact that hubby dear is not being deprived?

Jus. 'cause you are married does not equal happiness.  Stop lying ya'll.  Who has not lied in marriage.  Haven't you faked it to make her "think" she is doing what you like to encourage her to do more of the same?????  And yeah, ya'll know women fake it to stroke your egoes or 'get it over with' if you have the "PROVERBIAL HEADACHE" at the time...   A lie is a lie is a lie for whatever the reason.  And let the one who has NEVER told a lie to be the first one to write another negative comment about this woman's WISE decision to protect her family.  I hope she has gotten good legal  and financial counseling.  And Honey, keep your mouth shut until you so desire.  Your hubby might be reading USAMEGA and figure it out....  When and if he does find out,  have your house in order!

HI "MY"  ...1/25/2005....2nd posting....addendum

It pleases me to see someone  else on this topic, thinking exactly the way I do on it......It also shows how "naive" some of us really are......so many posting here, wanted to make "jane " out to be a dishonest shrew....but I never saw it that way....She has essentially taken over the role of "provider" and "caretaker" in her family.  She could have thrown her husband out years ago, but instead she stayed w/him...."for better and for worse, in sickness and in health"...she respected her marriage vows, and never turned her back on him....  Many a woman would have gotten rid of him, the minute they "struck pay dirt" w/the Lottery, but "jane" didn't...She chose to keep her family together....and her winnings intact.  He's benefitted, as much as the Children......whats more, she never lied to him about it.....she simply didn't tell him she won..."Don't ask, Don't tell".........

Furthermore, as I stated in my initial posting, there are thousands of Men, who have money, stocks, investments and other properties....they "never" tell their wives about.  And, it's not because she's got an addiction of any kind....It's because it makes them feel powerful, to be in control of so many assests, that they can hold them back, as long as they like, or share them with whom ever they like...."Whats mine is yours" is nothing more than 'cliche'....It really means, whats mine is yours, "IF" I decide to share it with you......I said earlier and I'll say it again, having read "jane's " story, I take my hat off to her.....she never lied to him about that prize money, he never asked her.....however, she's helping to make a wonderful life for her family.

I can't judge this women because I have never been a victim of marriage.  Winning the lottery gave her a chance to make choices and it doesn't matter what other people who can't make choices think as long as she was satisfied with the choices she made.

1/25/2006

This has been a very "hot topic".....as there are now 73 postings on it......I do believe the story is real,  however, reading thru some of the opinions, gives one  a good indication of how people would handle the same situation if they were living it.

I would think that she could have easily set up some sort of trust, allowing her children (and other family members)  to be taken care, herself having enough to never worry about, AND able sharing it with the husband.  Surely there must be some lawyer who could arrange that. However, she would have to have an interest in sharing!  Personally, I think she used an X-Acto blade to cut the word forgiveness out of all the dictionary's in her immediate area.

HAPPY THURSDAY...."CHEWIE".....1/26/2006

I don't understand how you can say:

" However, she would have to have an interest in sharing!  Personally, I think she used an X-Acto blade to cut the word forgiveness out of all the dictionary's in her immediate area."

How is "jane"not forgiving ?? sharing??...She is married to  a Man, who used to have a Drug Addiction..And there is no guarantee, that he, like so many others, will not fall prey to that again at some point. She continues to be his faithful and loving wife.  She is indeed sharing her winnings w/him and her Children. What else should she do?? If she were to reveal her  winnings to him, chances are, he may fall prey to Drug usage again, and do so, behind her back. He certaininly would not announce it to her face to face. He'd just sneak around "using" and seduce her into giving him more and more money to support his habit...It's very hard for former Drug users to back away, from re-usage when temptation strikes(money)....She showed forgivness by staying married to him, she shares it with him, by helping to provide for their home and lifestyle.

Forgiving? Still complaining about something he did 15 years earlier.  Not trusting some one 15 years later, which is the justification for hiding the money. Awfully close to being unforgiving. Faithful and loving wife? That is assumption, as valid as her being a woman who screws whoever she wants, just to prove she can.  All this based on the "may" word? That word has the validity of the "if" word. Maybe he will become a druggie again.  Then again, maybe he has become the pillar of their neighborhood.  Maybe she is a shrew, who just found out punishment is easier then forgiveness.  I know ex-druggies who lead a life my Christians lie about living.  Will power is all it takes. 

Again,  I stilll think a trust would solve the problem, without turning yourself into a decietful person.  Unless of course, that was the goal all along. 

 And no I'm not related in any way, shape or form to Chewie. 

Chewie has made valid points and you ladies might not agree. But all in all it's not entirely your fault for that way of thinking. I can place a very small amount of the blame on the male gender. Like it has been said before, "all it takes is a few bad apples to spoil the barrel", and that's exactly how your mothers have taught you to view most men. If men make one particular mistake, (in your eyes) men are bound by the heavens to repeat it, "WRONG". Just the dummies out there that don't learn from their mistakes do that! And that's not just held to the men to make the same mistake twice, women do it too just as much as the men do, women just don't get caught as often as the men do! I personally believe, it's because women are the better game players than the men. But how can women not be the better game players, it's because women have done it all of their natural born lives!

That woman is kool,she loves

her family and want things 2

remain normal....because a person with a formal drug problem can easily slip back

into his or her ways fast.! I take my hat off 2 her 4 her

being well grounded!!!

Once guilty, always guilty.  Good, now that is settled, lets make all prisons one way; in no out.  Especially for smoking pot.  Majority opinion is, 15 years later you are doomed to repeat your sins.

Majority opinion is, 15 years later you are doomed to repeat your sins.

Chewie, it sure seems that way for those who don't know the word or the meaning of the word "Forgiveness" and thats an awful/despicable shame!

Ya gotta love it.  I keep reading how Christianity is the major religon on this country.  Then I read how decietfulness is the appropriate path, and foregiveness is not.  When in doubt, 15 years later, condem the druggie husband and bless the lying wife.  Heaven must be an interesting place.  Full of liars, but no former druggies.  Ahh, sooooooo glad I'm in the minority.

we don't know if she forgave him.  smart woman for guardingg their security.

You have to remember Chewie that we live our always always being.  Meaning that all the experiences and the other stuff we are made of make us what we are always being.  Whether we are shy, introverted, extroverted, trusting, loving, untrusting,  Jeffrey Daumer, etc.

We all don't put together information the same, even with the same experience.  The lady could have been uninformed in a lot a things (lack of trust) and it is possible that she was doing the best she c.

Everybody ain't as smart as we are.lol  But you would have thunk.

She lived with the guy for 15 years, after the drug addiction supposedly stopped; and continued to do so when she had the funds to bail. Kept her kids around him during that whole timeline.  That, in itself, tells a story.  She made a decision to do what she did, and that decision resulted in an obvious mistrust.  Live 15, or more, years with some one you don't trust.  Guess I'll have change universes to understand that concept.

Now, that's hitting the nail on the head! That's almost like the age old saying. "Once A Cheater, Always A Cheater" (which has been proved time and time again, over the decades!)

Aaaahhh  Yeah, Chewie....  You see, there is not a single relationship on planet earth that is ideal.  And the "T" word Trust?  In God, we trust---100%; others we try to believe in 50%.  Those liars, etc. are not in heaven, nor will they go.  They, along with other hypocrits will join the master liar who was kicked out centuries ago along with 1/3 of heaven's population.  You see Chewie, there are those people who do and move on and say their apologies when needed.  Then there are those people who are self righteous hypocrits, throwing stone after stone when they live in glass houses They can not see clearly what they are saying about another person because there is a huge beam in their eyes blocking view of a tiny splinter in the eye of the person they are dumping on..  Have you ALWAYS been honest????????

Since you brought it up, I don't believe in God, nor do I believe in some super mean guy with horns and black wings.  I have seen too many body bags of people who asked their lord to save them. Never was someone saved by a prayer.  They would have died, or lived, with or without the prayer.  Based on the Bible, the only real proof of a God is his continuous destruction of his creations during temper tantrums. Massive floods, fires, and, lets not forget the slaughter of babies in Egypt.  My favorite is sending them into the theaters to be eaten by lions or chopped into pieces by galdiators.  All this based on something passed down as heresay by people who could neither read nor write.  Sorry, I don't buy into the heaven and hell theory, any more then I buy into day of judgement.  If there is a God, why hasn't he provided any proof of his existance since science started advancing?  Surely, there would be something, a burning bush maybe.  A virgin impregnated by a great warrior dressed in white and flying around with wings?  How about him standing in a house in Texas and telling a woman to drown her children; alla Abraham scenerio?  How about we count up the bodies listed in the Bible?  Ooops, there are too many to count.  Of course it be impossible, too many millions of years of earth were overlooked in the Bible; no room I guess.  How about counting up the dead that were part of religious efforts?  The Crusades of the Christians against the Muslims?  How about today, Muslims killing hundred of thousand in the name of religion?  How about a christian dominated United States, led by a devote religious person, killing hundred of thousands of Muslims?  Where was God when his chosen people were being slaughtered by Hitler?  He would never have let this happen before people could read or write.  Humm, I wonder is there is a connection between that.  Priest, men of God, no longer torture or burn women at the stake?  Could it be that education had something to do with not buying into religious superstitions?  Could be!  Or, maybe, men of God don't have time to stone women to death for adultry, they're too busy in the back room with little boys and their leaders are too busy covering it up.

I have always wondered why people always start throwing the "Bible" around so easily when they get their butt into tight spots for? Is it because they have no other "Valid" thoughts for a comeback to someone else's view point that have undeniable merit to them? That must be the reason behind it, but who knows why they do it for. 

So, in all fairness, lets give the bible thumper a chance to validate their reason for being here! So, I ask this one question of the one person who is throwing the bible around? What are you doing on a site that vacillates or encourages gambling for? I'd like to see a valid answer to that question. And I don't mean your being here as a so call messenger of God, to get us sinners to change our ways either!

But as far as I'm concerned, there is no good reason for a bible thumper to be here on this site! So. I'll call it like I see it! Stop throwing stones while living in a glass house yourself! And you are a Self Righteous Hypocrite to boot! Please stop talking out both sides of your mouth, if you wish to have anyone take what you have to say seriously.

And just for the record, I do believe in Jesus Christ, not that I owe you an explanation or anything! But I just didn't want to be the next victim of your bible thumping attack!