Study: Hoosier Lottery has worst financial decline in USA

Comment #26

caipiao — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:03:16 GMT

even if you buy 10-20 scratchers and not win once, doesn't mean there odd isn't 1 in 4. If they say 1 in 4 are winners, 1 in 4 are winners, could be in another stretch, 10 winners in a row.

other than pb and scratch, we should avoid computer draws and only play the ball drawings

Comment #25

time*treat — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:18:52 GMT

I think someone posted, long ago, that if you did a 'workout' on the numbers, they would fall in the drawing -- unless you actually played them.

No way to really test that across many states to confirm if it really happens in some places, or just feels that way after you've collected a pile of losing tickets.

Comment #24

manofmany — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:59:30 GMT

No surprise here. I was very skeptical of this lottery before I knew the drawings were computerized. I originally began purchasing scratchers and like previously said, I would buy 10 or 20 and not win once; while the odds were 1:4. Sure enough, I emailed them and was told that 1 in 4 tickets printed were winners, but players were not guaranteed to win every 4 tickets. I realize the tickets are distributed to many vendors, but the tickets are printed in runs, so theoretically you should win every... [ More ]

Comment #23

caipiao — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:12:02 GMT

if Indiana lotto continues to be bad, then if you live near border, play border state. if not, play online like that betslips thing.

Comment #22

LOTTOMIKE — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:26:05 GMT

how have you been jim? hope losingjeff is doing good.i remember us all having these discussions years ago and at the time i never thought tennessee would end up doing the RNG but they did.we had one of the best lotteries in the nation the first couple years and then the bottom fell out.i haven't bought a lottery ticket here since february of 2007 almost three years ago.hey jim did you hear about the new arkansas lottery? they are going to be RNG drawn.

Comment #21

jim695 — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:14:35 GMT

rdgrnr:

I'm proud to be able to say that I haven't bought a single Hoosier Lottery ticket since 2003, except for PowerBall tickets. I still play that game because it's drawn mechanically in another state (Florida), well out of reach of the hopelessly corrupt Hoosier Lottery.

We've talked about boycotts before, but most people have trouble overcoming the fear that their numbers will come up if they don't play. They'll root for the rest of us as they head to the store in their quest to giv... [ More ]

Comment #20

mony — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:52:07 GMT

Idaho must be following in the footsteps of Indiana. from what you have explained, Idaho is following lockstep with Indiana. Many days of not only Pic3 but this new game of the Double Draw game as well as Wild card are all rigged.

They also have no external auditing of these games.

Comment #19

caipiao — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:32:41 GMT

vOTE WITH YOUR DOLLARS. only buy from real drawing states and not fake ones

Comment #18

rdgrnr — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:01:57 GMT

Sounds like we all need to boycott computerized states and buy in ball states if possible. It would also help if everyone would contact those states and let them know WHY they're boycotting. I will now travel 25 miles to VA. and stop buying in TN. except for Powerball. I will let TN. know about it too.

Comment #17

jim695 — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:53:37 GMT

Thanks for the heads-up, vistaguy - I'm reading some of them now.

The guy who used to work for the lottery is probably Andrew Reed, Hoosier Lottery Spokesman, official Spin Doctor and one of the biggest pathological liars the state of Indiana has ever produced.

The Hoosier Lottery administration has changed several times over the years but, somehow, Mr. Reed is the ONLY one who managed to keep his job; everyone else was replaced every time a new director was installed. Mr. Reed insis... [ More ]

Comment #16

ThatScaryChick — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:35:28 GMT

I would hope that this would be a wake up call for states who are computerized, but I know they see nothing wrong with RNG, so they will continue to use them.

Comment #15

vistaguy — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:47:47 GMT

Jim

Glad you posted to this thread. You should check the comments on the actual story on the indy channel website. Search lottery. They are pulling negative comments pretty fast though, including 5-7 of my comments.

There is a guy who used to work for the lottery who is giving lots of false info there. He did say he has a friend who just won $10,000 on a scratcher, which proves the indiana lottery isnt rigged. Imagine that, a lottery worker who's friend won 10K...

Comment #14

jim695 — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:38:31 GMT

It's been a while since I've had anything to do with the Hoosier Lottery, but if I remember correctly, they switched to an electronic drawing format for all their games sometime in 2001. According to their CPA/ Internal Auditor, a man named Joe Pfister, their first RNG was downloaded from a now-defunct web site called Lottery.com. That simple code was then uploaded to two 486 desktops (is anyone here old enough to remember those?) which served as our official draw machines for the next two years... [ More ]

Comment #13

TnTicketlosers — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:11:30 GMT

Imagine that,yes Tennessee will finally either drop off the map,or get another CEO to run it.Until then (AS SHE QUOTED I DONT MAKE YOU PLAY) Until then....That's funny.

Comment #12

vjohnson8 — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:53:58 GMT

I AGREE THE SCHATCH OFF TICKETS ARE A JOKE,YOU SPEND A DOLLAR,THEY WONT GIVE YOU ANYTHING BACK ,GREED STATE,VERY SELFISH VJOHNSON8

Comment #11

vjohnson8 — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:46:03 GMT

They need to go down hill,because,i have been play 111 for six years and it has never hit,the last time it hit was march of 2003,thats pretty bad and the odds are nt right,they also have a lot of repeat number,396 fell three times in just one month,they need to go back to the live balls ,or they are going to lose more players vjohnson8

Comment #10

konane — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:21:03 GMT

Hoosier Lottery should take a clue from the Georgia Lottery which has televised live ball drop draws every draw. When players see actual drawings they have greater confidence in game integrity therefore spend more.

Lotteries are one of those entities where you have to spend money on live ball draws to demonstrate complete transparency and honesty.

Clear argument for people believing what they see, distrusting what they can not.

Comment #9

Littleoldlady — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:19:18 GMT

I wonder what TN's will be? I know they have lost a lot of players.

Comment #8

diamondpalace — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:47:25 GMT

Stick to real ball drawings to gain back people's trust. Also give out more prizes, to gain sales. It takes money to make money, for lottery, litterally.

Comment #7

markp1950 — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 04:22:12 GMT

And they have had so many powerball winners. Many more than Wisconsin.

Don't then get anything????

I know that the states collect taxes...

MarkP

Comment #6

vistaguy — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:24:03 GMT

They wont listen. They are saving $80,000 a year by doing RNG but will accept a $40 million loss in revenue and blame it on the economy to keep the fraudulent RNG because they get to keep more money for themselves.

Comment #5

JordanT1021 — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:04:55 GMT

yeah cost effective for not having to pay someone, but look at the downside.. players hate computerized and the revenue goes down down down... i hope ncel never goes to computerized drawings.... i would never win

Comment #4

Coin Toss — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:23:05 GMT

Isn't it ironic that states that go computerized always say it's more cost effective.

Comment #3

JordanT1021 — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:18:02 GMT

i agree.. NO MORE COMPUTER DRAWS....

ping pong balls only..

Hooiser lottery if you read this get into the act...

Comment #2

vistaguy — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:24:17 GMT

Very glad you posted this story. For the Hoosier Lottery to blame the 17% drop on the economy is not a valid argument considering the average lottery drop is only 3%. That clearly should tell Indiana they need to quit scamming their players with a rigged lottery. Its not just the lottery either. When the scratcher odds are 1:4 and people are buying 10 and 20 tickets in a row and not winning, something is wrong.

Somebody needs to wake the Indiana lottery commission up

Comment #1

maringoman — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:14:32 GMT

I don't feel pity for states that decide to use computerized drawings when their revenues take a plunge. I wouldn't feel that I had a fair shot regardless of the odds if the game has computerized drawings.

Study: Hoosier Lottery has worst financial decline in USA

Lottery Post — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:40:48 GMT

Another state with computerized drawings fares poorly

Has Indiana considered boldly changing back to real drawings?

Proceeds from Indiana's lottery were down by more than 17 percent in the past fiscal year, marking the sharpest decline in profits nationwide.

Hoosier Lottery proceeds fell by nearly $40 million. The state's profit from scratch-off tickets, Powerball and other lottery games dropped from $217 million in the 2008 fiscal year to $178 million in fiscal year that ended June 30.... [ More ]