Ruling by Justice Dept. opens a door on online gambling

Comment #56

Stack47 — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:05:26 GMT

You're making a mountain out of a mole hill because the majority of sales in every state lottery including Tennessee are scratch-offs. If some players are worried about paying taxes or have a way of collecting their winnings without the IRS knowing, they'll continue to buy the online game tickets at their local stores.

I doubt interstate online ticket sales will drastically boost sales unless a lottery comes up with a must play game. The one area where I do see a potential is raffle tickets.... [ More ]

Comment #55

faber98 — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:49:53 GMT

untrue, you can go to an otb and hit a tax ticket and get someone else to cash it for you. online though you are stuck with it. same for the lottery, better off with real convenience store ticket if you feel the need to avoid the taxes on lower tier hits. and the question of whether tenn would revamp their lottery or allow it to die if residents went out of state is justified. it would make sense for them to revamp it, but would they just try to get the players who don't play online or live in t... [ More ]

Comment #54

Stack47 — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:48:26 GMT

if they allow interstate online play tenn will have to upgrade theirs or it would probably become extinct.

Yep and I believe that's the point rdgnr was trying to make. The pick-3 players living near the Tennessee/Kentucky border probably now buy their pick-3 tickets in Kentucky because of the $600 to $1 payoff. The KY players near the KY/WVA border might be playing WVA's Cash 25 and the WVA players might be playing KY's 3 Line Lotto. When I lived in Ohio I bought Quinto tickets in Pennsylvan... [ More ]

Comment #53

faber98 — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 02:55:09 GMT

it should restricted to your own state. apparently tenn has a bad lottery that no one likes for whatever reason. if they allow interstate online play tenn will have to upgrade theirs or it would probably become extinct. other state have more appealing types of games so who can blame tennesseeites for wanting online interstate options. there's only so much money you can spend playing the games anyway so maybe it would make sense to restrict online play to your state only or maybe any bordering st... [ More ]

Comment #52

Stack47 — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:58:48 GMT

Competition doesn't destroy, it makes things better.

and think about all the unique games in other states that we would like to play without traveling 100s of miles.

As it stands now they just tell us to STFU because they know most players aren't going to drive to another state to play.

On the down side there are currently laws in some states prohibiting their residence from gambling online. As greedy as the TN lottery and the people running the educational fund where the profits go... [ More ]

Comment #51

rdgrnr — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 02:18:39 GMT

I'm not a soccer fan but thank you anyway, Yuran.

Comment #50

rdgrnr — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 02:09:18 GMT

You seem to be arguing against competition.

Competition doesn't destroy, it makes things better.

If Tennessee players had the option of playing online in other states, Tennessee would have two options - make their lottery better or lose the revenue. Which do you think they would choose?

If Tennessee players all started playing in states with real ball drawings, Tennessee would drop the computers real quick.

It's the only way Tennessee Lottery officials would ever pay any attention to... [ More ]

Comment #49

Mark Haigh — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 02:06:46 GMT

1. People outside the US are already buying Mega Millions and Powerball tickets. There are lots of online ticket sellers more than happy to charge people triple the normal ticket price!

2. If you sell a ticket to someone else, aren't you liable for tax on that income anyway..? And unless you're planning on getting paid in used dollar bills it's pretty visible the moment it hits your bank account.

Comment #48

YURAN — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 02:02:18 GMT

The Chinese cannot play in US lotteries even if they wish. Because they have very limited internet.

Comment #47

maringoman — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:05:16 GMT

The Chinese would play? If their government would let them, I see a situation where 9 of every 10 jackpots would end up somewhere in China.

The Chinese population is about 4 times the US population and given the rise of incomes over there I can see jackpot after jackpot being won by some Chinese guy.

You don't think so? NewYorkers win jackpots more often than other states because they play more. Now imagine if only 10% of Chinese citizens decided to spend $1 on tonights mega millions. That... [ More ]

Comment #46

unseen — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:48:04 GMT

I can't believe someone would post some BS about someone from the Ukraine winning Mega Millions or Powerball? Do you realize the odds of winning either of those games? If that's the case why do people play online poker in tournaments with players from Europe and everywhere else? I could care less if they allowed aliens from another planet to play.

Comment #45

Guest — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 18:55:12 GMT

it figures, when they need money, then it becomes legal. what a load of crappola ! government idiots being themselves i guess.

Comment #44

faber98 — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:42:59 GMT

another thing if they allow interstate online lottery play any intelligent player is going to play in the state with the highest jackpot (lets exclude powerball and megamillions since that is multi-state anyway) this will take away from the weaker states that have lower tier prizes since there is only so much individual lottery discretionary money to throw away anyway. who can blame anyone for going for say idaho's state lottery instead of their own if the jackpot is higher. meanwhile state with... [ More ]

Comment #43

ronki — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:01:56 GMT

Ues to play Euro Millions Spains El Gordo But Big Brother shut that down you can't use any of your Credit Cards for online gambling SOOOO what is the Differences.What happen to Feedom we are FREE only when we DIE thats when.

Comment #42

ftdsn244 — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 05:33:52 GMT

Let me play all states pick 4 online and I am happy, get a snip site up and running and you guys can have your fun with the megamillions and so on..

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Comment #41

YURAN — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 03:56:07 GMT

If you like soccer game then come in summer 2012 at EURO-2012 Championship which take place in Poland and Ukraine.

Comment #40

rdgrnr — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 03:49:58 GMT

I think you guys might be getting Ukraine and Belarus mixed up.

Belarusians are the meanies - Ukrainians are happy shiny people.

Comment #39

YURAN — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 03:48:06 GMT

And also interesting info. Online sales accounted only 5% from total tickets sales. Another 95% peoples go to retailers. Why? Because they want real ticket which they can touch and feel.

Comment #38

YURAN — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 03:27:39 GMT

Opps. Man from LA, California come to Kiev and played at retailers store. This man really born in Mariupol, Ukraine. Work in LA. He is a rock-misician.

Comment #37

YURAN — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 03:20:29 GMT

Interesting opinion... But we allow anyone to play our Ukrainian lotteries via Internet. This option is available more than one year long. What happens? Nothing unusual. In our lotteries plays many peoples from Belarus, Russia and lot of other international. NO changes in prizes. All as usual even BEFORE they applying online wager.

Even we have man from Los Angeles, that won Superloto Superdraw UAH 250 000... And also we have another jackpot won via Internet into Loto Maxima game. Maybe that

Comment #36

faber98 — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 03:08:30 GMT

summing it up here are some reasons not to allow online wagering. 1. if the prize is between 600.00 and 5000.00 it will go onto your income without you having any control over it. it is wiser to pay someone unemployed 10% to cash it for you since they will not be liable for any taxes. if you purchase the ticket in a store there is no way they can prove it was yours. everyone does this because they know they have lost more in the past than they won this particular time so they feel justified in n... [ More ]

Comment #35

haymaker — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 02:43:56 GMT

one of my best freinds is a uke,

but i don't want to share lotteries w/ other countries,

maybe you were just kidding,i think his parents were from kiev.

Comment #34

faber98 — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 02:27:06 GMT

sure, ridge. lately you've become a comedian. i used to give you a modicum of credit for being somewhat knowledgeable. you hate politicians and yet you want to play right into their hands by letting them know who won right off the bat, thus allowing them to pilfer your prize in order to buy new draperies for the corner office with your money. everyone here thinks their going to win the big one and they won't be happy unless it's 100 million. but more realistically they are going to win a 2nd or... [ More ]

Comment #33

rdgrnr — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 02:12:58 GMT

I like Ukrainians.

Their Chicken Kiev is superb.

Comment #32

faber98 — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 01:58:31 GMT

no, it's not a good idea at all. do you really want someone from the unkraine winning your state lottery or mega millions or powerball. also what if you want anonomity if you win. you cannot get it since they will have a credit or debit card record of you buying it. this won't allow you to sell the ticket to someone else if you so choose for whatever reason and there are many. what if the irs thinks you owe them more than you think you owe. they will just grab it from you off the top. i'm thinki... [ More ]

Comment #31

rdgrnr — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 01:46:56 GMT

Sounds like a great idea to me, Yuran.

Comment #30

YURAN — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 01:26:04 GMT

I like Powerball Megamillions because they have huge jackpot amount. What about completely open doors for cross-international lottery play? If U.S. to allow for example Ukrainian peoples make wager in Powerball/Megamillions then your states make more revenue. It's great, right

Comment #29

Think — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 21:34:08 GMT

Yawwwwwwnnnnnnn...

This is a big yawwnner for me. As far as I'm concerned, if I cant buy tickets from other states, this is no big deal.

If I am in a state that is in the Megamillions pool or a in a state that is in the Powerball pool then I should be able to buy ANY kind of tickets I want from those other multi-state pool members online.

Comment #28

rdgrnr — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 21:20:09 GMT

Protectionism kills competition, the lack of which in turn kills creativity and excellence.

When something is the only game in town it usually sucks, big time.

Comment #27

david1691 — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:50:48 GMT

I agree 100 percent with both of you as well. I made a statement a while back about this. If people can bet on horse races from other states, then the same should apply to state lotteries. I personally would play other jackpot games than what is offered here in Pennsylvania. New York's Sweet Millions or Win For Life would be some of my picks. Give the people what they want.

For those against this idea just keep in mind that this is just another option to buy tickets. I play no matter what.... [ More ]

Comment #26

dpoly1 — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 18:53:38 GMT

The easiest way to keep money on shore is to cut taxes. The Mellon Tax cuts of the 1920's did just that. Most people don't understand the law of diminishing returns as it applies to taxes!

Government is most often the cause of economic problems, not the solution

Comment #25

Littleoldlady — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 18:14:44 GMT

I don't know what all of the opposition is about. I am looking at the BIG picture..Billions of US dollars are going outside of our country each year to pay for gambling at offshore betting places. If the US would open up online betting for its citizens, then maybe we could cut those billions going outside the country by more than half. They need to find a way to keep our money in our country.

Comment #24

Littleoldlady — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 18:06:40 GMT

This is silly too. People go to the store to buy those other things..they don't necessarily go to the store to buy lottery tickets. I am sure if they continue to sell beer, gas, milk, sodas, bread and cigaerettes they won't go out of business. That is where they make their money ..they only get about .05 for each ticket they sell.

Comment #23

peppy007 — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:13:49 GMT

Im definitely I i can buy tickets from other states. Especially when their jackpot is high.

Comment #22

dpoly1 — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:55:38 GMT

I am not sure that I want an electronic record of my lottery purchases. I am sure that they would track down every win, no matter how small!

Government, they consider us sources of income, not constituents to be served

Comment #21

Cletu$2 — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:56:49 GMT

Personaly,I don't trust the internet enough to spend my money online.If others wish to,thats their business,but I'll remain old fashioned and just trot down to the corner store or gas station and buy my lottery tickets.I feel like its a much safer option.

Comment #20

dpoly1 — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:25:52 GMT

They want more taxes

Comment #19

Stack47 — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:07:14 GMT

Apparently ftdns is talking about a ruling by the Justice Department https://www.lotterypost.com/news/240464 and it's about online gambling casino and poker type games. It's possible a few state lotteries might group together and form a poker site, but the ruling was on a state lottery selling subscriptions for lotto games.

If horse racing off track betting is legal in your state than you can already legally bet tracks all over the world online.

As for the impact of selling any lottery gam... [ More ]

Comment #18

ftdsn244 — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:05:31 GMT

Yeah i agree, I think if they only plan to let you buy at your own state it is a waiste but if they allow all states then I am all for it.

Comment #17

ftdsn244 — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:03:57 GMT

Hate to be Mr. negative but it is stupid to just legalize your own state only. But from what i read it is possible to play cross boarder but this is going to be up to the states themselves.

Comment #16

LottoGuyBC — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 14:14:00 GMT

It's a PLUS in certain ways like:

if you're snowed

if you're out in nowheresville

if you're not going to meet the cutoff

being able to buy online is definately a PLUS

Comment #15

Lottery Playa — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 13:59:55 GMT

If States want to fix their budgets.... they should STOP spending money they don't have. Government is always looking for a way to find more revenue because they can't stop borrowing for things that they do not have any business being involved with. Instead of finding more ways for revenue, they should find more ways to be less intrusive in the lives of the people instead of viewing us as a resource that can be tapped at will for their failure.

These States and their budget woes make my blood... [ More ]

Comment #14

TnTicketlosers — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 13:11:28 GMT

Well I guess I will keep driving to those states,but that is allowed.

Comment #13

TnTicketlosers — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 13:08:34 GMT

As it should be,I rather play any state than here,so would other Tennesseans..I want to play Kentucky Or Georgia,,,,why do I have to play here if I dont want to.

Comment #12

ConstantlyB — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:37:15 GMT

Good morning everyone....I hope ya'll had a great

holiday weekendYEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

In total agreement with you on this note BobP.....I would like to purchase tickets in any state for any game if I so choose.

Comment #11

BobP — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 10:47:22 GMT

Why won't our government admit we're living in a police state and get it over with already? We're the most controled free country ever, can't even spend our hard earned cash freely.

The states have a vested interest in keeping all gambling within their borders.

We the lottery players have a vested interest in playing the best games where ever they may be, whether they are lowest odds, two tickets for a dollar games or highest jackpot.

The positives with online play is saving ga... [ More ]

Comment #10

HiFi — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 04:44:07 GMT

i dont like this because when people buy tickets at the store they also will buy other things an it helps out the small business owner. i dont own a business but i think its good for the economy and my community. sure i can buy lottery tickets online an save money on gas but u have to think of the bigger picture.

Comment #9

louise black — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 03:57:21 GMT

Comment #8

ftdsn244 — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:37:52 GMT

Faber- that is a pretty dumb post my friend, and it is people like you that try and keep this thing from getting off the ground. Just because some people may not have control it should not ruin it for everyone, there are bad drivers out there..should we ban driving? And also it is not about being lazy, if you would pay attention there is some money to be made on this site except most peoples numbers work with all states and not just your own.

Comment #7

myeyes2020 — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:17:09 GMT

I'm ready -I'm ready ; let's get ohio: ohio-michigan, ohio-indiana, ohio-kentucky, ohio-ny, OHIO - TRI STATE, I'm Ready.

Comment #6

TOOT515 — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 01:27:18 GMT

Everyone is different. Some people like to play small, some people like to play big, playing online is convenient for most people.. Time change, people change, technology change, get use to it! Faber, if you're fine with going to the store spending $2 - $5 a week winning $40 to $80 then that's your business. The majority rules, and I believe most people would prefer to play online. LETS DO IT

Comment #5

Littleoldlady — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:21:46 GMT

You act like folks are going to go crazy buying lottery tickets online. That is just plain silly. Lottery tickets are sold online in other countries and this one should let folks buy them online also. If your weekly play is just 5-10.00 I am sure most intelligent folks can manage that. Credit card companies have tightened their qualifications so a lot of folks won't be eligible to get one anyway. Besides if I don't stop by the bank to get my cash and use one of those other atms..it still costs m... [ More ]

Comment #4

faber98 — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:29:58 GMT

being able to buy just lottery tickets on line is hardly a significant breakthrough. what was it difficult to go out and buy them in the normal fashion. does anybody care if the pools are higher because of this. i don't think so. you should have to make an effort to play the lottery with cash only. people will get into too much trouble if allowed to buy them with a credit card. the credit card issuers aren't going to like it at all when the defaults start to pile up. there will be snafus galore... [ More ]

Comment #3

tmead — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 20:50:05 GMT

The quicker, the better.

Comment #2

Littleoldlady — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 20:44:20 GMT

Yep..I think it is about time that US lotteries start having online play. It makes sense. Now if they will just clarify the banking part..I will be ready to go..

Comment #1

ftdsn244 — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 20:04:47 GMT

So if i am understanding this right this is basically only going to allow you to buy tickets online to your own state lottery unless all states agree together to allow cross boarder purchases

Ruling by Justice Dept. opens a door on online gambling

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2012 may the year of widespread Internet lottery ticket sales

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