Texas Lottery approves new game to start in fall

Comment #38

rdgrnr — Fri, 04 May 2012 20:00:36 GMT

You could wind up spendin' a lotta money on that game.

Makes you wonder if there's anything better to spend that money on in Texas?

Rumor spreadin' 'round in that Texas town

'Bout that shack outside La Grange

And you know what I'm talkin' about

Just let me know if you wanna go

To that home out on the range

They gotta lotta nice girls

Have mercy

A haw, haw, haw, haw

A haw, haw, haw, haw

Well, I hear it's fine if you got the time

And the ten to get yo-self... [ More ]

Comment #37

lot-to man — Fri, 04 May 2012 18:05:52 GMT

Buy one chance and see, if you can win and then use your winnings to buy more chances . Once you win you are ahead and only use the money you have won to play and you lose nothing in the long run.

Comment #36

lot-to man — Fri, 04 May 2012 18:02:29 GMT

I'll play the game only once everyday, but will stop playing other games, so I can use that money to have a better chance to win. I hope I get all the numbers or none at all, so I can win the $250,000 prize. $500.00 doesn't sound too bad either.

Comment #35

Lucky Loser — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:54:40 GMT

I believe my last sentence follows suite with exactly what the lady in Virginia just accomplished. She stayed true to the same numbers when she played and it payed off in a big way for her. I'm seeing where any change in her numbers, and consistency, would've completely disrupted her win altogether. Again, it's so much easier to win on the smaller games with a reasonable set of numbers played consistently. Pre-draws can't just keep drawing the same formats or numbers over and over for days on en... [ More ]

Comment #34

Lucky Loser — Mon, 09 Apr 2012 13:58:24 GMT

Yeah, I agree 'ridge. Playing the possible minimum of $2 on every draw, and every day, adds up pretty darn quick!!!! I don't think there will be drawings on Sundays, so, this deal will run an over anxious player about $200 in the run of a month. For me, I'm just gonna get one $2 dedicated set of numbers and simply run them once per day. I can definitely afford this, and, see where I have a very, very good chance of recovering that money at some point...maybe even hitting the $500.

This is one... [ More ]

Comment #33

rdgrnr — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 16:55:46 GMT

It seems like most new state games are trending to $2 now.

At a play rate of 4 times a day though, I think they would have been wiser to start this particular game at $1.

Comment #32

ressuccess — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:54:33 GMT

Good luck to the players in this game. I didn't know why they have 4 drawings 6 days a week.

Comment #31

SergeM — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:56:25 GMT

My calculation is that average for 2 USD wagering, the player loses 0.880353 USD.

2 USD ticket

1.119647 USD won

0.880353 USD loss

Score P()

12 0,00000037

11 0,00005325

10 0,00161085

9 0,01789838

8 0,09061053

7 0,23196295

6 0,31572735

5 0,23196295

4 0,09061053

3 0,01789838

2 0,00161085

1 0,00005325

0 0,00000037

Probability of no prize: 0.77965324 = 78%

Probability of break even: 0.18 = 18%

Probability of

Comment #30

maximumfun — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:49:49 GMT

I can't wait for this game to start.

Since flights connect through DFW airport with LONG layovers, I suppose that we fill find our way to a lottery ticket sales area either in or around the airport.

This is hitting all of our radar cuz it is something different.

Comment #29

Lucky Loser — Wed, 04 Apr 2012 01:39:44 GMT

Alright, alright...let's all play nice! Now, this wasn't meant to start confusion over the game, but rather to begin exposing ideas just as you all have been doing. My initial ideas, as I stated, were only preliminary as I'm not familiar with the game, or, it's draw statistics. Every machine and ball set is different from the next one, in that, certain numbers are prone to being drawn with some bias...even with the pre-draws. This is why I said that sticking to one set of numbers may work best a... [ More ]

Comment #28

faber98 — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 21:22:08 GMT

you just don't understand the game concept. you have to pick 12 numbers out of 24. you want them to be either the correct 12 numbers or the 12 incorrect numbers. it doesn't matter which way your numbers match up. you can't decide ahead of time that you want your numbers not drawn only. you can hope it goes that way but you win the same amount if they are drawn or not drawn as long as you're either 75% right or wrong. you are thinking that you get no numbers in megamillions for example and think... [ More ]

Comment #27

lottolaughs — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:59:26 GMT

What's not to get...duh! You said yourself 1-10 will be about 50% of the drawn numbers. Read my post again. If you're trying NOT to match numbers then don't pick them. I don't know about you but I would aim for higher numbers.

Comment #26

Ruud — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:33:55 GMT

Payout percentage is similar to a $2 instant ticket.

Comment #25

rad242 — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:08:12 GMT

Makes sense! Finally there's an advantage to LOSING

Comment #24

cbr$ — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:32:29 GMT

I like the concept of this game. I know I would try it. Sound like fun.

Comment #23

faber98 — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:48:42 GMT

you don't get it either. the field size is only 24 numbers. they are going to draw 12. pretty certain 1-9 or 10 will be about 50% of the drawn numbers. half the numbers in the whole field will be drawn. 12 out of 24. it is not like the games you are used to. you cannot try not to match numbers or try to match them. the game itself will dictate that. either you match more than 8 to make money or less than 4 to make the same amount. either you are a good guesser or a bad guesser. same payout on 75... [ More ]

Comment #22

RedStang — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:40:46 GMT

Sounds very expensive with almost impossible chances for a small top prize of 250k. Might do ok at 1$.

Comment #21

lottolaughs — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:40:54 GMT

Well now....if you're trying to NOT match numbers I would think you could eliminate 1-9 or 10 pretty easily since those numbers usually are drawn most in games. Just a thought.

Comment #20

TGOOD7 — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:26:45 GMT

Wow,,can't wait to play this one.

Comment #19

faber98 — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 04:42:24 GMT

no, it doesn't make sense. you don't get it. you pick 12 numbers out of 24. it doesn't matter how you pick them in sections or odd or even or however. you either are lucky enough to match a high number of those drawn or a low number of those drawn. you can't try to match as few as possible. the payoffs are the same on both ends. 0 right pays 250k and 12 right pays 250k. 1 right pays the 2nd prize and 11 right pays the 2nd prize. and so forth. there isn't a high or low choose option. it's pick 12... [ More ]

Comment #18

Lucky Loser — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 03:37:20 GMT

Very, very true and I agree with you. But, this is what I'm seeing: (24) numbers. Half are Odd and half are Even. Can't play all of either side only because they're bound to pick a couple or so of each, right? So far, I think that the numbers will need to be sectioned off into 1/4's of (6)...1-6, 7-12, etc., and then try to select from each section (3) numbers which are unikely to be drawn. Now, this is still only my preliminary thinking and will probably change as the game get's closer.

I'm... [ More ]

Comment #17

faber98 — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 03:28:33 GMT

i don't think you have a choice. you pick 12 out of 24 and hope you either get 0-1 or 11-12. you don't get to pick whether you want to match a lot or a little. it's whatever happens with your 12 numbers that determines your prize. most will be in the 4-8 range thus leaving you with winning very little or nothing.

Comment #16

rcbbuckeye — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 03:24:12 GMT

Since PB went to $2 a tic, I think we are going to see state lotteries looking for games to sell at $2 a tic. In fact, I remember reading in the minutes that this was one reason for them to introduce this game. State lotteries are trying to find ways to bring in more revenue, and charging $2 a tic is an easy way to do it now that PB has broken the ice.

If you want to try to break that trend, vote with your money and play only games that are $1 a tic.

Comment #15

Lucky Loser — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 03:13:08 GMT

This game, to me, seems to based on a minimum of ticket @ $2.00 because the less numbers a player matches, the closer they are to the $250,000. They are marketing LESS NUMBERS, or, NO NUMBERS as the incentive to play which is why I believe it's based on a minimum playslip count per $2.00. The idea, in my honest opinion, would be to play as few as possible and not many, in an effort to win decently. It's almost like a reverse psychology of sorts. For years, we've all been so accustomed to trying... [ More ]

Comment #14

rcbbuckeye — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 03:00:42 GMT

I read about this in the minutes of the last meeting. $2 per tic. 6 days a week, no Sunday draws in Tx. I looked at the Irish game a few weeks ago and the odds are less than Tx 2 Step, but I don't recall what they are exactly.

Not sure I will play this game. I sure won't play it 4 times a day. I might play it occasionally. It won't start til around August.

Just looked up the odds. 1 in 1,352,078.

I still wish they would bring in a game like Pa's Quinto.

Comment #13

faber98 — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 02:56:56 GMT

2.00 a line x 4 per day x5 if you play full board=32.00 a day x 7=224.00 a week to play this game if you play a full board for a week . a little to steep even for oil rich texans. even 1 line a day x4x7=56.00 a week or 224.00 a month. i'm sorry but this game won't sell. payouts for 7-8 over or 4-5 under won't be gppd enough as these will be the most common hits. and the dreaded 6 will come up too often on your tickets. pass. correction no payoff at all for 5,6, or 7. this game will bankrupt the... [ More ]

Comment #12

Lucky Loser — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 02:54:11 GMT

You caught that too, eh? Also, (5), (6), or (7) numbers pays absolutely nothing...and this is where the matrix of the game is. (11) get's you $500, and, so does only (1). After careful deliberation, I only want to match (1) or none at all...and I'll be tryin' like all get out to miss all of 'em!! This is very interesting to me...the idea of finally trying TO NOT MATCH ANY NUMBERS. Hmmmm.

L.L.

Comment #11

VenomV12 — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 02:44:25 GMT

If you can win other prizes other than the top prize then it is truly not all or nothing. lol

Comment #10

bobby623 — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 02:21:42 GMT

PART 9. TEXAS LOTTERY COMMISSION

CHAPTER 401. ADMINISTRATION OF STATE LOTTERY ACT

SUBCHAPTER D. LOTTERY GAME RULES

16 TAC 401.320

The Texas Lottery Commission (Commission) proposes new 16 TAC 401.320 ( All or Nothing On-Line Game Rule). The purpose of the proposed rule is to establish and share with the public, details of the game design, matrix, prize level structure and operation of the proposed on-line game.

Kathy Pyka, Controller, has determined that the new rule will result i... [ More ]

Comment #9

Lucky Loser — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:55:50 GMT

Yeah, it would seem that it's very easy to not match any numbers but, we're only dealing with (24) here as opposed to (54) with the big boy. Hence, it's very easy to not match any on the 6/54, whereas with only (24), it'll be hard not to match at least (3) maybe. In the end, it all still pays off which is what I really like about it! Less total numbers equals better matching odds, and in this case, less is still good! I knew Texas could do it!!

L.L.

Comment #8

Glenn123 — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:46:49 GMT

I'm ready for this game.I pick no numbers out of 54 all the time.Should have better luck with this one,bring on the fall...LOL

Comment #7

Lucky Loser — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:19:20 GMT

Okay, I'm gonna try and help all my Texas Peeps with this information! Now, as everyone should know by now, I'm dead set on playing a set of reasonable numbers consistently over and over...because it simply works. Here we have a new game which dictates that matching all, none, more, or less numbers will pay off. Are you all with me? Okay. Here's where playing the same set of numbers WILL ACTUALLY WORK BEST because you will either match MORE NUMBERS, or, LESS NUMBERS from draw to draw by remainin... [ More ]

Comment #6

RJOh — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:11:33 GMT

Will have to check the Texas website to see if I calculated the odds correctly.

combination size 12

basic pool size 24

(B) bonus numbers none

smallest match 0

tickets or chances per draw 1

possible combos of 12/24 numbers = 2704156

MATCH ODDS WINNING COMBOS ODDS 1 CHANCES

12/12 1 : 2704156 1 1 : 2704156

11/12 1 : 18779 144 1 : 18779

10/12 1 : 621 4356 1 : 621

9/12 1 : 56 48400 1 : 56

8/12 1 : 11 245025 1 : 11

7/12 1 : 4 627264 1 : 4

6/12 1 : 3 853776 1

Comment #5

Lucky Loser — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:02:36 GMT

Yeah, I'm diggin' this game, too...so far. However, the payouts, in terms of how many numbers are matched, look pretty decent. I'm anticipating what the cost will be and hope it's a dollar just like everything else is. If so, I'm in there like swimwear! The thing about this, though, is that a person is highly unlikely NOT TO MATCH ANY NUMBERS or ALL TWELVE.

However, my gears are already grinding on a strategy to implement on this game based on what I've already saved from the link. I really... [ More ]

Comment #4

maximumfun — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 00:58:22 GMT

DCF - right there with ya. I love the idea of guessing the WRONG numbers... I am actually quite good at that so this game should be right up my alley

Comment #3

dallascowboyfan — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 00:51:06 GMT

SWEET!!!!! another game for me to play when we go to Texas

Comment #2

Nikkicute — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 00:38:50 GMT

I can't imagine them charging more than $1 for this game, since it's played four times a dayI'm sure people

will take more chances if it's just 1 buck to play.

This game sounds nice, if you don't win the first time you have three more chances that very day instead of

waiting the next or next couple of days to win. I like it!! I'm sure once you see those first set of numers roll

you for sure think you know what the next numbers are going to be so you'll want to play again, at lea... [ More ]

Comment #1

PlayTwoWin — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 00:36:06 GMT

This looks like a fun game to play!

This spot for rent.

Texas Lottery approves new game to start in fall

Lottery Post — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 00:25:51 GMT

'All or Nothing' will be drawn four times a day

UPDATED: ticket price, drawing type, prize table

By Todd Northrop

The three-member Texas Lottery Commission (TLC) unanimously voted to approve the new All or Nothing game.

All or Nothing, scheduled to begin in the fall of 2012, will give lottery players the chance to win up to $250,000 by picking 12 of the 24 numbers drawn or none of the numbers drawn.

The object of the game is to either select as many or as few numbers that match th... [ More ]