ILLINOIS LOTTERY MOVES TO COMPUTERIZED DRAWINGS

Comment #71

ko57 — Wed, 21 Oct 2015 02:03:41 GMT

Our Louisiana state lotteries are computer generated, and I've about given up on trying to strategize on these lotteries, whether using software or my own ideas. A few quick picks might be the way to go.Being CNG, it seems they could easily filter results they want for whatever reason, mainly to increase their income.You hear play the 5 number game, it has the best odds -but for CNG the odds are for the state-that's about it. This state continually has an income increase every year from lottery... [ More ]

Comment #70

bowmangwenda — Wed, 14 Oct 2015 22:44:08 GMT

just pay the people or ban the lottery in this state this state seems to be taking money

Comment #69

haymaker — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 21:32:02 GMT

Yep, all psychological too, and they can deny the intention to mislead about RNGs

But I don see a computer in those rolling cages.

Comment #68

Coin Toss — Thu, 01 Oct 2015 20:47:22 GMT

Oh this is sad.

Maybe they want people to think it's still ping pong balls.

Watch the drawings

Comment #67

Indianajoe — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 18:16:21 GMT

Don't give up on your numbers.

Comment #66

fast eddie — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:45:41 GMT

I knew it was coming. pick three and four are now dead for me here in IL. just check out some of the payouts in these states that use RNG only one pick four winner for the week. been playing my same number for 6.5 years now it's over.

Comment #65

Todd — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 11:52:23 GMT

Changing the drawings over was a long-term process, not something that was borne out of, or affected by, the current budget issues that are preventing big payouts. It was not related to or prompted by the firing of Northstar either.

Undoubtedly it was initiated by the lottery (probably by Northstar) as a knee-jerk reaction to their past problems with turning a profit. So sad that they stupidly yanked real drawings, which will hurt the long-term position of the lottery, in an attempt to shave... [ More ]

Comment #64

Stack47 — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:55:48 GMT

It's the state legislators putting the pressure on the Lotteries to take cost cutting measures. You posted lots of news stories about a state lottery not making enough profit satisfy whatever the legislators decide the lottery profits should go. Bet many of these states already went to RNG drawings.

The Illinois Lottery is getting blamed because state law prevents the Controller from issuing checks over $25,000 and now after being told to cut costs, the players again will blame the lottery pe... [ More ]

Comment #63

Todd — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 20:51:28 GMT

Integrity is not the same thing as necessity.

Comment #62

THRIFTY — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 20:00:15 GMT

I thought that pre-test drawings affected the integrity of lottery games. Lottery players feel that they aren't necessary.

Comment #61

THRIFTY — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:56:03 GMT

The lottery would still have plenty of customers playing their games. How can you compete with a $70 Billion dollars per year industry? I wouldn't call the lottery an stupid tax on the poor though. It is entertainment and we do not have to be smart play it.

Comment #60

cbr$ — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 18:08:29 GMT

The Illinois lottery officials being excited about their lottery switching to computerized drawing from live drawing was badly timed. With the recent failure to get their winners paid. Now, they have player's filing law suits against them. What made them think , the player are really going to be exited about a rng number being pull by a computerized drawing. No one actually see this, you want them to just blindly take your word for it. No, you are about to loss money. The players will play a lot... [ More ]

Comment #59

Todd — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 16:22:33 GMT

^^^THIS^^^

This answers your question, Stack47. It has nothing to do with nobody playing a game that could be rigged. It has to do with the lotteries being extremely short-sighted: They are saving a few dollars by switching to computerized drawings, but they are losing revenue because many people either won't play or won't play as much.

The lottery loses the confidence of its players when they make the dumb decision to drop real drawings.

There are many ways to cut back on the expe... [ More ]

Comment #58

Todd — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 16:17:55 GMT

How could you think that a pre-test has anything to do with it being a real drawing

Comment #57

uprrman — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 15:56:28 GMT

this is an outrage. totaly bs.

i guess i won't be playing the pick 3 4 anymore.

Comment #56

TnTicketlosers — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 06:45:04 GMT

I know I will NOT win so no I dont run down to the local market to play,The rest of Tn players can throw it away if they want to.

Comment #55

itpmguru — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 05:12:02 GMT

Comment #54

LottoMetro — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 04:48:53 GMT

RNG or no RNG, there will always be people who swear up and down the lottery is rigged yet, amusingly, they still keep playing. Same with casinos, stock market, tax schemes, welfare programs, and life in general. You really can't win because people will always come up with reasons to whine about things purposefully designed to extract money from their pockets.

Comment #53

Stack47 — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 03:38:14 GMT

So putting discussion of the Quick Picks RNG in the same discussion as the drawing RNG is a red herring it is a side-show that distracts from the point.

I thought the discussion was about the possibility of rigging an RNG in general with the intent of getting a desired outcome or preventing multiple winners that could cost a state lottery millions. There was no other tickets, QPs or self picks matching the jackpot winning numbers the drawing the prosecution convinced a jury Tipton rigged.

Comment #52

RedStang — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 02:58:44 GMT

RGN used in slots are different because casinos are required to pay back a certain percentage. Also the matrix is much smaller.

Comment #51

temptustoo — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 01:55:25 GMT

The state knows that people won't stop playing , that is a sad fact... If everyone would stop playing they would have no choice but to give in and do it correctly... WE the PEOPLE are FOOLS

Comment #50

THRIFTY — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 01:51:58 GMT

How can lottery games drawn using mechanical drawing machines have a 100% true lottery drawing, despite the fact that they do a pre-test drawing, thereof eliminating possible winning combinations from the post-test drawing

Comment #49

dell1972 — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 01:39:09 GMT

Good Evening

I contact Illinois Lottery and spoke with a rep there, express my unhappiness will the change, she told me, They will go back to the Ping Pong Ball if they lose million of dollars or received a petition of 100,000 signatures and over 50 to 200 calls a day. I told the rep, I will tell everyone to get a petition going and to call the Illinois Lottery office everyday.

Comment #48

Stack47 — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 01:04:53 GMT

The Tennessee Lottery didn't have any repeat digits in their pick-3 and pick-4 games for weeks and they are still using the same RNG. The Iowa Lottery proved in court somebody rigged the Hot Lotto drawing, but they still use the same RNG. The point should be why are people still playing those games? .

the computer knows what combinations have been sold and lotto balls do not.

An RNG could be programmed and connected to the terminals, but even the Iowa and TN Lotteries will say they are n... [ More ]

Comment #47

MzDuffleBaglady — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 00:51:53 GMT

I play both Missouri and Illinois.

Wow, both are computerized now.

Comment #46

MADDOG10 — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 00:47:41 GMT

To me, my thought process as to why they plan on doing this is GREED. When you take the Public opinion and throw it out the window

just to lower your cost verses the public trust, you put your hands in the cookie jar once to often so to speak and could care less what

John Q. Public thinks. I think it's time for replacement of the commission officers. And, if they can't be replaced it's time to replace the

one who put them there...

Comment #45

Todd — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 00:32:17 GMT

It doesn't matter what RNG creates Quick Picks. No matter what numbers you have no matter how they were created, and by what RNG, they should always have the same probability of winning as any other set of numbers. So putting discussion of the Quick Picks RNG in the same discussion as the drawing RNG is a red herring it is a side-show that distracts from the point.

The problem is that, as we saw in the Hot Lotto case, it is possible to rig a computerized drawing and hide the fact you did it.... [ More ]

Comment #44

Bleudog101 — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 23:16:52 GMT

True enough, RNG used for QP; however the point is that not having lotto balls and using RNG you are really @ their mercy. Like others have posted, the computer knows what combinations have been sold and lotto balls do not. The day MM and PB go to RNG will be the last day I play them.

Comment #43

Stack47 — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 23:04:31 GMT

Based on some of the comments, lots of members believe a QP is more likely to win a jackpot than a self pick regardless of the fact about 4 times as many QPs are sold. But nobody questions the RNG that creates QPs.

Comment #42

haymaker — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 22:44:52 GMT

I don't think we need to go as far as shutting down all, just need folks to vote with their wallet

RNG = do not play.

Problem is... some occasional players don't even know about it.

Some may not think about it each time.

I plead guilty to the last item, earlier this year I bought some HOTLOTTO on a trip to Delaware,

didn't know it was an RNG game cause we don't have it in Jersey.

Later looked at LP's lotto report card and will not repeat that mistake.

Comment #41

TnTicketlosers — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 22:10:47 GMT

I wish they would just close all the Lottery ,across the USA,Shut the crooks down for good.Then they would act right.Most of the states are crooked anyway and they get by with it.Tennessee is the biggest one.Proven fact.Players that support it dont win nothing.The RNG sees what you play and fix it accordingly...we are not stuipid.

Comment #40

Romancandle — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 20:24:39 GMT

Maybe it's coincidence, but timing this news with the current situation of not paying out prizes makes IL look like a bunch of clowns...

Comment #39

CDanaT — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 20:10:44 GMT

And here you go again..deflecting the issue from the state with the problem to another state..New Jersey was not mentioned,please stay on topic.

Comment #38

CDanaT — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 19:52:56 GMT

As usual there will always be one or two that like to deflect when a question is asked. Assumption is the mother of all screw-ups. Trickle down economy is constantly failure. Tying the lottery to the budget(being agreed upon) is completely gormless.

The bottom line is that state's elected leaders are the problem. Stemming from past to current decisions. No body said the Democrats were the cause of the problem or the Republicans were the answer. The question was asked who is the responsible gr... [ More ]

Comment #37

Raven62 — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 19:27:04 GMT

The Lottery Post Petition Against Computerized Drawing

Comment #36

Gleno — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 18:06:04 GMT

They are really going to lose credibility with these computerized drawings.

As if they really had any since they are not paying out on prized over $25K.

Comment #35

Bleudog101 — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 17:52:12 GMT

Saying I heard was when God if they wanted Brains they said 'No thanks, I already have a set of trains'.

Comment #34

butch2030 — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 17:41:33 GMT

Need I say any more? All you have to do is go to the Capital in Springfield, IL. I am sure it is a big misunderstanding in Springfield. When they were passing out Brains when the legislators were born, they thought they said Trains , and they all asked for SLOW ones. The people in IL already don't trust the government, and now, they go are going to a RNG. Look up the word Trustworthy. You are heading have been headed in the wrong direction. You're just adding another LOG onto the FIRE.............. [ More ]

Comment #33

Coin Toss — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 15:09:14 GMT

How soon people forget.

From 9-16-2010

CHICAGO: Illinois' governor has awarded a lucrative, first-of-its-kind contract to manage the Illinois Lottery to a private company with strong ties to the lotto.

The move on Wednesday hands over daily control to of the $2 billion games for 10 years to some of the most powerful players in the business.

Illinois will be the first state to entirely privatize the management and marketing of its lottery, a move mandated by legislators as... [ More ]

Comment #32

Bleudog101 — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 13:17:07 GMT

Hope that Illinois lottery loses all kinds of money with this snubbing of their players. RNG are also used in slot machines, I know it and still like them slot machines. I will not, however, play any RNG lottery. I believe that Five Card Cash here in KY is RNG but not sure. Everything else is done with the good old bouncing balls.

Comment #31

ekem6078 — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 04:49:47 GMT

Once the computer skans your ticket, it knows what you are playing how many people are playing that same number. and that number will not drop out, if it did they would go broke. Now what's randon about that. Js.

Comment #30

noise-gate — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 02:16:34 GMT

Whoa, Check your shoes Stack- looks like you stepped in it...

Comment #29

Todd — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 01:03:40 GMT

Here's some additional reading on this subject that should be interesting. Compare these two different articles:

Computerized lottery drawings not problem-free Texas Lottery drawings inspire confidence

Comment #28

Todd — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 00:52:43 GMT

Yes, because if the drawing is rigged (as happened in Hot Lotto), then your Quick Picks don't even stand a chance of winning.

It matters.

Comment #27

Stack47 — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 00:49:23 GMT

Does it really make a difference to players who buy QPs and let a computer choose their numbers

Comment #26

Coin Toss — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 00:04:19 GMT

Those of us south of 183rd St in Chicago (actually I think it's south of Decatur) haven't seen a Chicago newscast, which included the lottery drawings, a Cubs or a White Sox game since WGN's new ownership decided not to be a super station anymore.

With the RNG drawings added to the non payments to winners of $25K or more it's like the Illinois lottery is trying to self-destruct.

So for Illinois the only ball drawings will b PB and MM but if you win between $25,000 and 5 + 0 you won't... [ More ]

Comment #25

grwurston — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 23:52:33 GMT

Read this.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/294241/4289044

Comment #24

david1691 — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 23:52:01 GMT

You have a point as far as the risk for the lotteries. Do you remember for the PA Lottery day draws (which of course has always used a RNG) when 4444 was selected on October 25, 2004 and then the very next day on October 26, 2004 5555 was selected.

Can you imagine if we had RNG's back in the day when Nick Perry was involved with the lottery

Comment #23

LottoMetro — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 23:51:32 GMT

Haha I love how the title of this article is in all caps

Comment #22

rcbbuckeye — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 23:39:01 GMT

Well, it just keeps getting better and better in Illinois.

First they don't pay, now they screw people with RNG draws.

I feel for you folks up there, and for you Coin Toss.

Comment #21

Romancandle — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 23:27:55 GMT

Yuck

Comment #20

CDanaT — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 23:11:55 GMT

Illinois Senate consists of the following;

39 DEMOCRATS ---- 19 REPUBLICANS

Illinois House consists of the following;

70 DEMOCRATS ----- 47 Republicans

Wonder who could be the majority part of the problem with recent lottery concerns and changes

Comment #19

Todd — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 22:01:19 GMT

Indiana actually switched to real ball drawings for Daily 3 and Daily 4

Comment #18

Saylorgirl — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 20:57:55 GMT

Don't bother with Indiana we already use the R.N.G. drawings.

Comment #17

psykomo — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 20:12:07 GMT

MPM: but,........ WHAT CAN WE DO? A A BITCH

Maby, we can ask Lottery Post News to try and get information as to what type of RNG software they will

use and the suppliers name and company? It may take a year or two 2 get this data or they could provide

it upon a simple request to the Illinois Lottery Commissioners Office. Did the Illinois Lottery give a reason

for this BIG CHANGE? Do they need more wine, more women, more money or more paid corruption

Comment #16

Ron5995 — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 20:07:11 GMT

My take is for players who select diverse numbers (ie. 524, 100, 034, 7140, 2192, 9155, etc) on traditional numbers games (ie. Pick 3, Pick 4, etc) with no rolling jackpot, there will likely be little real change. While a RND is potentially less random than balls, the number distribution over long periods of time will near certain be similar - lotteries test for this, and so do many players; that's how various RND configuration problems have been discovered.

In my view, the most likely abuses... [ More ]

Comment #15

JADELottery — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 19:52:48 GMT

Might start giving Indiana and Wisconsin a shot.

wisCONsin, Pffff... CGN (Computer Generated Nonsense) a.k.a. RNG (Ridiculous Numbers Generator).

We know, when we lived there, we remember the CGN test game Badger 5 when they were going to RNG.

Comment #14

pdevans — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 19:50:43 GMT

Hey, Spartan, I'm in Georgia, and I can't prove it, but I have always suspected that the computer picked the least played numbers....our All or Nothing game is computerized by the way, and has been around for about 1 1/2 years and no one hardly wins....kinda suspicious to me.

Anyway, do you know where I can go to get facts or information on this.

Thanks

Comment #13

noise-gate — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 19:33:41 GMT

Don't these outfits ever learn? They keep circling the bowl until the suction takes them down.The sad part is that the hard earned money of the players goes down with their ridiculous ideas.Why did they not put this exciting idea to a vote by the playing public or better yet- Read LP'S succinct thought on the matter? This is called ramming an idea down the throats of the players and telling them Don't worry,like most medications it only tastes bad at first, but you'll get used to it.... [ More ]

Comment #12

luteman — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 19:33:32 GMT

Might start giving Indiana and Wisconsin a shot.

Comment #11

Get paid — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 19:32:43 GMT

Sounds like typical american politics to me.

Comment #10

spartan1707 — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 19:12:33 GMT

Another SAD DAY for us players....Those computers pick the less picked number to ensure the House wins and keeps high picked one out. Those are facts. Every state which uses it have doubled or even tripled their earnings and given high bonuses to the company which run them. Hate it

Comment #9

WWWBUKTN — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:52:52 GMT

You hit the nail on the head. As a disgusted Illinois player well before I caught wind of this today you can be assured that I'm finished playing the Illinois Lottery. If there's not balls bouncing around they there's nothing random about it in my book. I'm honestly done and I already dropped my play about 60% over the last year anyhow when they started screwing around with the frequency, matrix's and payouts of Lucky Day. Illinois Lottery is no more than an open till for politicians. I can't be... [ More ]

Comment #8

JordanT1021 — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:51:39 GMT

R.I.P.

Comment #7

haymaker — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:51:10 GMT

Lottery officials call the move exciting

Ever notice how these officials are excited by things that don't effect them on a retail level ?

I wonder how excited they'll be when they realize that many people that live near the border

are buying in other states !

Some already are B/C of the non-payment on prizes over $25G

Comment #6

JADELottery — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:49:26 GMT

Essentially they turned every Lottery Retailer into a Toll Booth... WAY TO GO

Comment #5

temptustoo — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:48:36 GMT

Great reason to just stop playing. They have finally put the nail in the coffin. Leave it to these states that have went to computer to mess up a great lottery.. that is typical of politics and government getting involved long enough to screw things up... Good bye lottery.........

Comment #4

mypiemaster — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:35:50 GMT

Illinois lottery players are about to be hosed, for real.

Comment #3

JADELottery — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:31:46 GMT

Gee, what're the odds.

ALERT Illinois: You're about to be Computerized.

Comment #2

mypiemaster — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:28:52 GMT

RNG? Seriously?. More like one step forward, 1000 steps backwards. Oh, I almost forgot, this is Illinois politics we are talking about. Shame!!!.

Comment #1

JADELottery — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:18:25 GMT

In Case of R.N.G.

Press, HARD.

ILLINOIS LOTTERY MOVES TO COMPUTERIZED DRAWINGS

Lottery Post — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:15:31 GMT

By Todd Northrop

If the Illinois Lottery issued stocks, now would be the time to sell.

Despite widespread player sentiment that is strongly against computerized drawings, the Illinois Lottery stated Friday that it is dropping real lottery ball drawings, and moving to the despised computerized draws.

Computerized drawings are conducted by having a computer system that picks the winning numbers using a Random Number Generator, or RNG . Players generally dislike the fact that it is imposs... [ More ]