Lottery winner can seek bigger prize at trial, judge rules

Comment #31

Stack47 — Mon, 27 May 2019 03:56:39 GMT

Which rule

If the prize goes unclaimed by the deadline, according to the Mega Millions website, each participating state in the Mega Millions game will get back all the money that state contributed to the unclaimed jackpot. States set their own priorities on how they spend that unclaimed prize money

And it sure looks like the Hot Lotto prize Shaw tried claim for Tipton's trust was defined as an unclaimed prize and distributed among the participating states.

the prize money the lottery... [ More ]

Comment #30

KY Floyd — Mon, 27 May 2019 02:52:42 GMT

The prize money was returned to the participating states by the rules.

Which rule says that the prize money the lottery refuses to pay should revert to the state when somebody attempts to claim a lottery prize by fraudulent methods?

It's obvious MUSL didn't know that drawing was rigged until years after they distributing the prize money.

Bummer for them, because there's nothing they could do with the prize money that eliminates any liability they might have for paying the money to a... [ More ]

Comment #29

Stack47 — Sat, 25 May 2019 04:48:51 GMT

the Lottery should have held onto the money and maybe even invested it somehow until sufficient time ran out on any potential lawsuits.

Dawson won his jackpot before Tipton's ticket expired. The prize money was returned to the participating states by the rules. Iowa held a drawing for it's share of the pot. It's obvious MUSL didn't know that drawing was rigged until years after they distributing the prize money.

Dawson's lawyers will probably contend MUSL knew something was wrong when Cra... [ More ]

Comment #28

Cruzincat — Sat, 25 May 2019 02:39:59 GMT

If Tipton s bogus win had been caught immediately, the money would have rolled over, and the jackpot would have been much higher than it was when Larry won, if it hadn t been hit by that time. More tickets would have been sold, so there would be a greater chance that it would be hit sooner. But, who is to say that It couldn t have been Larry that still hit it?

Knowing the circumstances of the money that they did not pay out to Tipton, the Lottery should have held onto the money and maybe even... [ More ]

Comment #27

cottoneyedjoe — Mon, 20 May 2019 05:05:29 GMT

Good point. I'm not totally sympathetic to Lucky Larry's claim, but if he manages to win or get a settlement out of the lottery, it's a win for all lottery players in the long run.

Comment #26

TheGameGrl — Sun, 19 May 2019 20:23:48 GMT

Facts in cases often win.

Speculation is often dismissed. So stick to the facts.

He is asking that the funds from the fraudsters payout be now re allocated to him .

Cause and effect.

Comment #25

Artist77 — Sun, 19 May 2019 10:52:45 GMT

I think anything that potentially broadens the rights of players, especially where the state lottery causes the fraud, is a good thing.

Remember that the woman in New Hampshire with her lawsuit regarding anonymity, seems to have lit a fire on the broader issue of the right to remain anonymous in multiple states.

Comment #24

grwurston — Sun, 19 May 2019 02:47:24 GMT

I think this lawsuit is going to open up a whole can of worms. If Lucky Larry should win, other people who won a jackpot however many drawings immediately after a Tipton rigged win, will argue that their jackpot win would have been higher too if the previous win hadn't been rigged.

This is gonna be good

Comment #23

Stack47 — Sat, 18 May 2019 20:00:25 GMT

and it will be years before the Eddie Tipton story is over.

Comment #22

Stack47 — Sat, 18 May 2019 19:46:55 GMT

I think a jury is likely to figure that the money would have gone to somebody and that somebody is Dawson.

Eddie rigged more than one drawing, but the lottery kept the money from this one. And I'm pretty sure because of that Dawson's lawyers are going to try and make a case similar to yours. But making that case depends on getting the jury to focus on who won instead of could win. The lottery will argue because they did not know the December 29, 2010 drawing was rigged and that winner didn't... [ More ]

Comment #21

KY Floyd — Sat, 18 May 2019 18:39:18 GMT

The Judge seems to be inclined to grant him his wish

Based on what I've seen the judge was just ruling on matters of law, and any opinion he has about the actual merits are irrelevant.

Well tables got turned and those Attorneys got sued for defamation.

And how did it turn out? Even if Dawson had said that the Iowa lottery is a bunch of thieving lowlifes that are deliberately ripping off the players I doubt he'd win. We know that at least one of the games was rigged and the lottery ha... [ More ]

Comment #20

noise-gate — Sat, 18 May 2019 18:35:00 GMT

he would not have won anything if Eddie Tipton hadn't fixed the draw That's a bit of a stretch MW, why you ask? Because Eddie was only working the system to his advantage, he had no way of knowing whether a player or players chose the same numbers as he did. But it's a fun thought nonetheless.

Comment #19

konane — Sat, 18 May 2019 17:22:07 GMT

Comment #18

Todd — Sat, 18 May 2019 11:48:27 GMT

Exactly! The main sticking point I can see so far for Lucky Larry is that if Tipton did not rig the drawing, then some other numbers would have been drawn but Iowa can contend that someone else may have won that drawing with whatever non-rigged numbers were drawn. So it's impossible to know for sure if Lucky Larry's jackpot would be larger or not.

I suppose Lucky Larry could say that based on the long string of previous drawings (60) that did not produce a jackpot winner, it is most likely th... [ More ]

Comment #17

TheMeatman2005 — Sat, 18 May 2019 11:35:45 GMT

Eddie Tipton did not rig every drawing. There were only certain draws that he knew which set of numbers was to be drawn.

The lawsuit is about if the Hot Lotto wasn't rigged and Eddie didn't win it Lucky Larry might have won a bigger prize. On the other hand, it could have been won prior to the draw that Larry hit.

Being that there were no winners of the jackpot after the one Tipton won and Larry won the $9 mil, he is suing for the money won in the jackpot that was rigged.

The case is no... [ More ]

Comment #16

MillionsWanted — Sat, 18 May 2019 11:21:57 GMT

On the other hand, he would not have won anything if Eddie Tipton hadn't fixed the draw. Someone else might have won in that case, with other numbers.

Comment #15

DELotteryPlyr — Sat, 18 May 2019 09:55:18 GMT

By the judge letting it move forward this allows the continued discussion and analysis of this issue.

Comment #14

Onelast8 — Sat, 18 May 2019 05:06:52 GMT

Larry may get lucky again but I also see the tables turn around on him if they stastic expert say that might have not won at all if the jackpot rolled over and lottery decides to rule his win disqualified due to the tampering of the machine I hope not but they could then take back his win.

We will see how the lottery plays the numbers game come Dec.

Personally I hope he wins and the lottery pays out triple + lawyer fees.

Comment #13

noise-gate — Sat, 18 May 2019 01:20:26 GMT

Lucky Larry better hope that the jury they empanel are not sore lottery losers. They could figure that Larry got lucky in the past, why add more to his windfall. There are lots of bitter folks out there. Ex wife, ex gf who offs the ex because if l can t have you, no one can. It s a jungle out there.Let s hope that the luck Larry lives by, can see him through these trying times.

Comment #12

Stack47 — Sat, 18 May 2019 00:38:06 GMT

I hope not because Lucky Larry is a financial adviser.

Comment #11

maximumfun — Sat, 18 May 2019 00:21:00 GMT

Sounds like Lucky Larry may have run through the bulk of his 9M already and now needs more and this might just be an easier way to get it than playing the lottery again

Comment #10

gatorsrok — Sat, 18 May 2019 00:01:43 GMT

There is a defense that the state can raise and possibly support with statistical data (at least enough to negotiate a settlement). Had Eddie not won the fraudulent drawing, the jackpot would have rolled over and been much greater in subsequent draws. However, the greater the jackpot, the more tickets sold. If the jackpot had been millions higher, the state would have sold more tickets and there could have been a winner earlier than Larry's win. It is a bit of speculation, but I'm sure the state... [ More ]

Comment #9

Artist77 — Fri, 17 May 2019 23:34:41 GMT

Brilliant and down to earth common sense answer. I can always tell the real legal experts on lp who provide short common sense answers that all members can understand vs long quasi legalese sounding opinions copied off the internet.

Comment #8

Stack47 — Fri, 17 May 2019 23:13:24 GMT

Dawson won after Eddie rigged the drawing, but you may be correct if the lottery can prove Eddie rigged all future drawings. But I doubt they'll even try because that would destroy their credibility and open the door to more lawsuits.

There was $millions spent trying to win a Hot Lotto jackpot and Dawson picked his own numbers to win.

He and his wife started playing Hot Lotto about three months ago after reading a book that claimed to have the secrets to winning the lottery. He followed t... [ More ]

Comment #7

JoeBigLotto — Fri, 17 May 2019 21:35:22 GMT

I will be very honest. He does not deserve a penny. The only reason he won is because of Eddie . If Eddie did not program he would have lost. So he needs to thank Eddie . $9 million is a lot of money to win in a game people never had a chance if Eddie knew there was a parasite trying to steal $9 million from is secret number combination eddie would have changed the numbers lol

Comment #6

Raven62 — Fri, 17 May 2019 21:01:46 GMT

In this world you have to be a fighter in order to get what's yours

Comment #5

Stack47 — Fri, 17 May 2019 19:39:07 GMT

For starters it's obvious the drawings were rigged and only one combination had a chance of winning the jackpot. Because one ticket had the winning numbers the jackpot was lowered for the next drawing and that's is basis for the lawsuit.

IMO a problem with Dawson's case is it can't be proved had the jackpot rolled without the cheating, he would be the eventual single ticket winner. But it will be simple to prove the lottery was negligent in providing fair drawings. And there is the question... [ More ]

Comment #4

rcbbuckeye — Fri, 17 May 2019 19:37:22 GMT

If Eddie doesn't rig that draw, he doesn't win it, and the jackpot rolls, to where Larry Dawson would have won that money.

It doesn't matter that he won 9 million. He should have won what Eddie stole too.

Comment #3

Bleudog101 — Fri, 17 May 2019 16:44:15 GMT

Excellent points there that I didn't consider. Good luck to him.

Years before retiring, our competitor hospital was sued by patients through Attorneys stating they got MRSA from the hospital. It has been a community acquired infection for years. That hospital, like mine, has high powered Attorney's on their staff. Well tables got turned and those Attorneys got sued for defamation.

Comment #2

cottoneyedjoe — Fri, 17 May 2019 16:37:29 GMT

Slander and libel are particular forms of defamation, which means to make false statements (written or spoken) about a person or group that harms their reputation. What false statements has Lucky Larry made about the lottery? Saying that the lottery was rigged is an established matter of fact. Saying that because it was rigged he should win more money is his opinion, and will be decided by the courts. The lottery harmed its reputation all on its own.

Comment #1

Bleudog101 — Fri, 17 May 2019 16:08:38 GMT

I'm kind of ambivalent about this. He got a nice chunk of change; why line the pockets of attorneys and you might not win. The Judge seems to be inclined to grant him his wish, though I'm sure the lottery involved has high powered attorneys @ their disposal. I know some LP members are legal experts, my concern is could he be sued for slander or is the proper word libel

Lottery winner can seek bigger prize at trial, judge rules

Lottery Post — Fri, 17 May 2019 16:01:51 GMT

Lucky Larry may have a shot to win millions more this time from a jury.

A judge has ordered a trial in a lawsuit filed by Iowa lottery winner Larry Dawson, who contends a $9 million jackpot that he won in 2011 should have been nearly three times as big.

Dawson filed his lawsuit in 2016 after an investigation revealed that lottery contractor Eddie Tipton rigged the previous $16.5 million jackpot, bought the winning ticket himself and unsuccessfully worked with associates to claim it.

Daw... [ More ]