Number Sets Comparison - Win d and CD

Reply #26

WIN D — Sat, 04 Dec 2004 01:02:40 GMT

Hello tntea, I am stuck in my ways and pretty much separate the 2 draws......and so I did give a quick look for Blackapple today and looked over the Night time draws in Pa. It was positioned with one double.....and I said not much confidence in playing this method tonight on the night game. However, you can see how I thought about the steps to prepare to play at night......they would work for the day draw as well. I'll tell ya one thing ....... with all those doubles on Midday ....this is a... [ More ]

Reply #25

tntea — Sat, 04 Dec 2004 00:38:53 GMT

WINDPA has had 4 draws with doubles..How do you determine which numbers to start playing midday tomorrow

Reply #24

CalifDude — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 22:24:24 GMT

Here is more comparison of California using my method of waiting for one of the numbers to hit and then play until you have 3 misses. CA Win D CD 009 076 B B 666 247 S 319 B 927 B 476 418 B B 173 B 532 656 098 B B 138 S S 160 B 072 B B 178 S 516 B 299 615 B 722 B 364 712 B B 405 B 165 B 999 785 939 381 B B 644 100 973 726 513 B 666 006 925 B 019 S S 415 B 133 560 B 191 307 B B 972 B 060 962 B 686 659 151 020 797 430 B 661 199 203 B 120 B 650 B 460 B 107 B B 348 431 B 824 085 B B 840 B 082 B 034

Reply #23

WIN D — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:13:42 GMT

ok..... here are your choices takeitez: 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 025, 026, 027, 028, 029, 035, 036, 037, 038, 039, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049 Now here is the way my brain works. First ...I would prefer that Pa. just finished having ...2 doubles not just one before using this method. Next ...I noticed that you included 3 recent hits from Pa. the 017 and 026 036. I would drop those 3 at least.Then I noticed (in the last 30 days) of the last 9 hits from my 60 list on Pa. Eve. that.....all of them had

Reply #22

takeitez — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 19:32:40 GMT

Win-D check out what I put on the prediction post page for PAFrom you list!ez

Reply #21

WIN D — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 19:18:10 GMT

Gee whiz Blackapple.....dont ask me to predict on PA. I just don't know their stats. I will say based on the examples here .....the best time to play a bunch of 6 ways is after the doubles are seemingly ....and statistically finished doing their thing. After subtracting as many of the recent hits as one dared from the play group to lower cost ....the odds are more in favor of a profit. There's that word again.

Reply #20

takeitez — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 19:01:34 GMT

Kinda like fishing,take it slow and easy but keep your eyes open!!! Like my handle says take-it-easytakeitez

Reply #19

Blackapple — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 19:00:26 GMT

After the multi doubles in PA. would you suggestplaying your theory WIN D? Any picks?You can input too!, CALIFDUDE.

Reply #18

WIN D — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 18:53:16 GMT

Just a side note. That was really a strange group of 100 numbers. Those synthetic PRNG's that Ca. uses in their draws throw out some unusual results. Check this out.... Out of a 100 random draw results I would expect to have approx. 27 doubles show up. This particular example in Calif. had 29. That's OK ...... but I have never seen this pattern of doubles before.With-in the 29 doubles that showed up I would expect to find around a 10% representation of each double. We should expect around Th... [ More ]

Reply #17

WIN D — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 18:19:38 GMT

This is a first . This is the first time I can remember seeing a strategy that ended up with the word profit at the end. LOL Really,,,,Up until now... most of the play strategies that I have seen here ended up saying .... well at least we lose a lot less money this way. So....this is quite a change. Profit huh? Hmmm , I'll bet we can tweek this a little more and improve it. Here is a prediction for ya.... I'll bet it ends up with us playing mostly a large group of doubles .......and in comb... [ More ]

Reply #16

CalifDude — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:17:37 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by takeitez on December 3, 2004Playing Ga. (combinned draws) at for $2 a number ($1 str and $1 bx)would cost $120 to play Win D list. The last 100 draws show 6 plays , playing only after a double comes 2 times, that happened 5 times but one time doubles came 3 in a row. SO 6 x $120 = $720 (cost to play ) and 3 box wins @ $150 + 1 str @ $900 =$1350 won for a profit of $630 !!!Way to go CD and Win D !!ezOr divide everything by 4 for those of us that only afford 25 cent

Reply #15

Todd — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:17:32 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by CalifDude on December 3, 2004But, the tiers don't work at all in this case. The numbers are just from Win d's list and my list. These are NOT draws, so the tiers only show the duplicate numbers between the 2 lists. In this case, the Deflate 3 does nothing to help select what to play as far as hot/cold, etc.My comments to Blackapple were not just about the numbers in your list, they were about how to use the system in general. I understand that your numbers can't be... [ More ]

Reply #14

takeitez — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:14:10 GMT

Playing Ga. (combinned draws) at for $2 a number ($1 str and $1 bx)would cost $120 to play Win D list. The last 100 draws show 6 plays , playing only after a double comes 2 times, that happened 5 times but one time doubles came 3 in a row. SO 6 x $120 = $720 (cost to play ) and 3 box wins @ $150 + 1 str @ $900 =$1350 won for a profit of $630 !!!Way to go CD and Win D !!ez

Reply #13

CalifDude — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:13:38 GMT

But, the tiers don't work at all in this case. The numbers are just from Win d's list and my list. These are NOT draws, so the tiers only show the duplicate numbers between the 2 lists. In this case, the Deflate 3 does nothing to help select what to play as far as hot/cold, etc.

Reply #12

Todd — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:02:51 GMT

Blackapple,The Deflate shows you which number combinations appear the most times in the list that you input. What you make of that information is completely up to you. The most common way to use the information is to play the numbers that appear in the higher tier(s), because they are in the list the most times.The numbers in parentheses are the other ways that the combination appears in the list. For example 123(312) would mean that the 123 combination came up twice: once as 123 and the othe... [ More ]

Reply #11

Blackapple — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:50:46 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on December 3, 2004Here's both of your numbers combined, Deflated:Results: 82Tier 2017(017) 018(018) 019(019) 027(027) 029(029) 037(037) 038(038) 039(039) 047(047) 049(049) 057(057) 058(058) 059(059) 067(067) 069(069) 078(078) 079(079) 089(089) 127(127) 128(128) 129(129) 138(138) 147(147) 148(148) 149(149) 158(158) 167(167) 168(168)Tier 1012 013 014 015 016 023 024 025 026 028 034 035 036 045 046 048 056 068 123 124 125 126 134 135 136 137 139 145 146 156 157 159... [ More ]

Reply #10

Todd — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:46:15 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by gilla on December 3, 2004 A tier 0 would be nice addition to the deflater. (Combos that haven't hit). Finding the one's in the deflation that haven't hit and the one's that haven't hit of 220 combos. Say I put in the last 167 draws or whatever number it shows the combos that have hit once(tier 1) and then have it go to show the combos that haven't come in of the 220 combos. You can already do that. In Deflate 3, just choose the option to Deflate all combos... [ More ]

Reply #9

CalifDude — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:36:53 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on December 3, 2004 Waiting on Special Days to playHere's something interesting. Check out the idea of only playing after you get 2 doubles in a row.......then playing only the next day! There were only 6 times that Doubles hit back to back in the test. These were the numbers that followed those doubles and the results. Playing only on these special days ....we would have hit 4 out of 6 times we played and one of these would be a STA... [ More ]

Reply #8

CalifDude — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:14:24 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by takeitez on December 3, 2004Thanks CD, great work. I noticed in the post, you play some doubles and Win D does not. What is the reasonninig behind this. You are such a good stat person I know you must have a reason why you put in the doubles.EZI play doubles because I play at . To cover ALL possible combos with a double you only have to play 3 tickets (actually I still play only one box, but increase the amount of the bet to play straight). It takes 6 tickets to cov... [ More ]

Reply #7

CalifDude — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 14:09:27 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on December 3, 2004CD already deflated my str. hits .....LOL He missed 2 Straights on the Win d side. (015 and 034). I'm sorry, Win d. So you have 5 straights and I have 7. As you point out, it is still a loss for you, but neither one of us expects someone to play ALL the numbers EVERY draw. It is just a good way to compare since we have different amount of numbers and payouts (I play doubles).

Reply #6

WIN D — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:51:49 GMT

Me too Gilla ! Yes sir good one. Thanks

Reply #5

gilla — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:47:31 GMT

A tier 0 would be nice addition to the deflater. (Combos that haven't hit). Finding the one's in the deflation that haven't hit and the one's that haven't hit of 220 combos. Say I put in the last 167 draws or whatever number it shows the combos that have hit once(tier 1) and then have it go to show the combos that haven't come in of the 220 combos.

Reply #4

WIN D — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:23:13 GMT

Waiting on Special Days to playHere's something interesting. Check out the idea of only playing after you get 2 doubles in a row.......then playing only the next day! There were only 6 times that Doubles hit back to back in the test. These were the numbers that followed those doubles and the results. Playing only on these special days ....we would have hit 4 out of 6 times we played and one of these would be a STAIGHT HIT . Yes... 1. 849 miss 2. 607 Hit 3. 430 Hit 4. 151 miss 5. 51... [ More ]

Reply #3

WIN D — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 12:16:33 GMT

Good Morning Todd. Thanks for the deflation. CD already deflated my str. hits .....LOL He missed 2 Straights on the Win d side. (015 and 034). I think thats all of them....I miss them too. So... thats a total of 5 Straights. Thats OK .....yesterday CD helped me find an extra . I know it's hard to proof your own stuff. The extra straights and $450.00 dollars don't seem to help in this example anyway. Todd ... you input the 50 and 60 for 110 and deflate to 82. What can this tell us? Of the 2... [ More ]

Reply #2

Todd — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:52:15 GMT

Here's both of your numbers combined, Deflated:Results: 82Tier 2017(017) 018(018) 019(019) 027(027) 029(029) 037(037) 038(038) 039(039) 047(047) 049(049) 057(057) 058(058) 059(059) 067(067) 069(069) 078(078) 079(079) 089(089) 127(127) 128(128) 129(129) 138(138) 147(147) 148(148) 149(149) 158(158) 167(167) 168(168)Tier 1012 013 014 015 016 023 024 025 026 028 034 035 036 045 046 048 056 068 123 124 125 126 134 135 136 137 139 145 146 156 157 159 077 118 169 178 188 189 227 229 237 238 239 247 249... [ More ]

Reply #1

takeitez — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:07:17 GMT

Thanks CD, great work. I noticed in the post, you play some doubles and Win D does not. What is the reasonninig behind this. You are such a good stat person I know you must have a reason why you put in the doubles.EZ

Number Sets Comparison - Win d and CD

CalifDude — Fri, 03 Dec 2004 09:16:59 GMT

Win d has a set of 60 numbers and I have a set of 50 numbers that we have posted and believe that they can be played for a profit. I want to compare them for the 5 states that I track. I don't know which list is going to be the most profitable, yet (but as you will see California is best for my set), but I want to do a fair evaluation of both sets.Here is the set by Win d:012 013 014 015 016 017 018 019023 024 025 026 027 028 029 034035 036 037 038 039 045 046 047048 049 056 057 058 059 067 06... [ More ]