AOL is rejecting our e-mail

Reply #27

four4me — Sun, 08 May 2005 22:15:25 GMT

All i was am trying to do is help in this matter. i also had problems receiving emails from Todds site and a few other websites when they started the agressive spam policy. The tech said for me to place the sites i was having trouble with email address in my address folder/book. The problem went away it took 3 minutes to do. After that i haven't had any email problems. As Todd pointed out i am just an end user and not a webmaster. I acknowledge this. And i say that their must be a way to correct... [ More ]

Reply #26

lottoarchitect — Sun, 08 May 2005 21:19:03 GMT

I don't disagree with you four4me. I'm in favor of SPAM prevention of course, as I get everyday many SPAM e-mails myself and it really becomes irritating sometimes. But at least I find it more reasonable to put SPAM e-mails in the junk folder instead of deciding that an e-mail is spam when it is not, and not deliver it at all. Nobody can 100% accurately decide on this, even more an automated approach. But the real failure of this system is obvious when it blocks legal e-mails. The miserable effe... [ More ]

Reply #25

four4me — Sun, 08 May 2005 20:54:27 GMT

thanks lottoarchitect for chiming in with that reply that's a better explanation to what's is happening i told Todd that when i get in touch with my AOL tech friend whom i believe works in the higher echelon of AOL's hierarchy that i would put him in contact with Todd. I feel for you guys that email blocking of legitimate sites ( AOL's policy is bad.) I also agree that we should be in control of our mail functions and not them. However i think some of their functions are specifically designed to... [ More ]

Reply #24

lottoarchitect — Sun, 08 May 2005 20:30:57 GMT

No, what I mean is that I try to contact some people that are AOL subscribers, mostly customers who purchase things from me, and I have to reply back to give them some information, but AOL bounces back my messages, something like what Todd gets.The bounced messages include the following:: host mailin-04.mx.aol.com[64.12.138.185] said: 554-: (CON:B1) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554conb1.html 554 TRANSACTION FAILED (in reply to end of DATA command)which in short says that my IP... [ More ]

Reply #23

four4me — Sun, 08 May 2005 19:49:36 GMT

Look man i explained to you in previous post what you could do to fix this problem. When new people (AOL users ) come to your site to join your site have a little notice in the sign on page for them to add your webmaster email address to their mail box before they finish with the sign in process. This will insure that they receive their comformation from you that they are signed up. Now lottoarchitect said And I have to add that AOL blocks my own e-mails as well as SPAM.I haven't a clue as to wh... [ More ]

Reply #22

Todd — Sun, 08 May 2005 17:08:58 GMT

Yes, thank goodness. Maybe I can ammend my remarks to indicate that there are some AOL users who are getting their e-mails from us.The major problem is that the ones who need the e-mails the most -- new members trying to get their activation e-mails -- are the ones most often blocked.

Reply #21

Todd — Sun, 08 May 2005 17:06:37 GMT

four4me:That's not true. AOL sends lots of e-mail to people's spam folder, even if it's a brand-new site and no one has ever received any e-mail from them before. Customers moving spam into their spam folder is only one trigger our of hundreds that will denote an e-mail as spam. Among those things completely out of AOL user control are the sending server configuration and complex DNS record configuration, plus AOL blocks entire ranges of IP address, in a blanket sweeping manuever, and tags an... [ More ]

Reply #20

four4me — Sun, 08 May 2005 16:51:09 GMT

Are you saying that you can't send an email from yourself to your own screen name your signed on to. If that is the case then you have to go to your email control panel and correct the settings.Aol only sends spam to a spam folder if it reconizes it as spam. In order for that to happen you have to send it to the spam folder for the first time. After that no email with that address will come to your mail box again. Unless you have that web address in your mail box. Mail controls are tricky if the... [ More ]

Reply #19

golotto — Sun, 08 May 2005 16:39:06 GMT

I've also had excellent results with a Yahoo mail account getting all my notifications sent from Lottery Post forum.

Reply #18

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 08 May 2005 16:08:38 GMT

Thank goodness I get my Lotterypost response with no problems from AOL

Reply #17

lottoarchitect — Sun, 08 May 2005 14:34:08 GMT

And I have to add that AOL blocks my own e-mails as well as SPAM. This thing really is bad and ridiculous. I cannot even contact them to their support e-mail to sort this matter out, as it rejects even my e-mails for the same reason! Isn't this illegal, what they do? Do they have the right to block e-mails just because they believe it is SPAM, even if it is not? I'm against SPAM of course but obviously this is not a solution to this matter.

Reply #16

Todd — Sat, 07 May 2005 03:39:20 GMT

I have done all the things you mentioned - numerous times. It doesn't work with AOL, which is a gigantic company, out of touch with its constituents. And the problem of people not getting their activations was one example out of many. AOL has worked very hard to become the Webmasters' most despised ISP . Their commercials showing people talking directly to the company's leaders is laughable - if it weren't so sad. Any attempt to communicate problems higher up in the food chain is referred b... [ More ]

Reply #15

four4me — Sat, 07 May 2005 02:07:43 GMT

When i have problems with something like this i don't talk to people that can't or won't help me fix the problem i go to the top of the food chain. I understand now what you are saying. People who have just joined lottery post are not getting their email conformation. Then yes that is a problem.If by emailing and talking to AOL reps that aren't cooperative or helpful. Then you should be working with the top echelon people. Quit asking some underling for assistance. Outside of that i don't know o... [ More ]

Reply #14

LOTTOMIKE — Sat, 07 May 2005 01:12:20 GMT

i use yahoo as my e-mail address for lottery post to make things easier,i have aol and know things can get frustrating with them on issues sometimes. thats why i just use yahoo.........

Reply #13

Todd — Sat, 07 May 2005 01:07:26 GMT

four4me,i know you like AOL, but the problem you're describing is not what webmasters go through.The problem does not lie with fact that members accidentally click the report as spam button. It's people who have never received e-mail from us. I mentioned in my last post that people trying to activate their accounts never get the activation e-mail because of AOL's horribly aggressive spam filters.That is not someone who accidentally clicked the spam button, it's someone who has never gotten any... [ More ]

Reply #12

emilyg — Fri, 06 May 2005 23:09:40 GMT

i love my aol.

Reply #11

Hyperdimension — Fri, 06 May 2005 22:50:30 GMT

AOL is the worst internet company of America. Just Marketing.

Reply #10

four4me — Fri, 06 May 2005 20:59:24 GMT

thats right if i had clicked report spam even if by accident then i would probably not receive any more emails from the site until i went into my mail box and re entered your web email address. Or opened the spam folder and clicked this is not spam.Here's my take on this when you creaded the old version the first time we had several problems receiving emails and i went throught a great deal of hassle contacting AOL to try and get it resolved. You also were in contact with them worked with you to... [ More ]

Reply #9

Todd — Fri, 06 May 2005 20:35:06 GMT

four4me:I had mentioned that almost all (not ALL) e-mails are bouncing. You are one of the lucky ones who are getting your e-mail. I am getting stacks of bounce messages every hour from AOL, and they are all the same thing about our messages being spam.The e-mails being bounced include new members' activation e-mails, private message notifications, reply notifications, etc. -- all e-mails that people have ASKED for, but AOL somehow wants to deem them spam . No other ISP -- and I deal with AL... [ More ]

Reply #8

four4me — Fri, 06 May 2005 20:27:23 GMT

see here is retxx reply email responceHi four4me,A new reply has been posted at Lottery Post to the following topic that you asked us to keep an eye on:Forum: Lottery DiscussionTopic: AOL is rejecting our e-mailReply Posted By: retxxTo view the post, click on the link below:https://www.lotterypost.com/threads112440p1.htmYou will not receive any further e-mail notifications about this topic until you view the topic at Lottery Post again.To stop tracking this topic (or any other topic), go to the

Reply #7

retxx — Fri, 06 May 2005 20:21:58 GMT

I also do get e-mails from lottery post with no problems.

Reply #6

four4me — Fri, 06 May 2005 19:33:05 GMT

Had a problem receiving mail from lottery post before aol said people are sending multiple emails to there spam folders. Some reasons given people open mail box and have 50 replies from posters who post to every post in multiple threads. If aol users don't log onto their computer for three days there coud be as many as 100/200 email responces in their in box.When a poster who has aol sends it to alo's spam folder then they aren't going to receive mail from lottery post.Now that we have a new Lot... [ More ]

Reply #5

SirMetro — Fri, 06 May 2005 17:36:40 GMT

A possible and FREE consideration may be to utilize Yahoo. I personally use Yahoo for both business and personal. Very handy since the business email max's out at 2 meg on sending and receiving. It's a bit cumbersum, but very functional and usuable. And best of all...does NOT cost a dime and about the ONLY spam I get is from Yahoo (average 1 a week)...for that, I can not complain.Sir Metro

Reply #4

CalifDude — Fri, 06 May 2005 16:56:55 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on May 6, 2005AOL users, your lovely ISP is rejecting almost all of the e-mails we send you. I have done just about everything I can do to work with them to get our e-mails through, so at this point I am throwing in the towel.If you want to receive e-mails from us, I would suggest one of the following:Get a new Internet provider. (What I would do! )Use a non-AOL e-mail address.Contact the AOL postmaster and complain that they are blocking Lottery Post's e-mails.... [ More ]

Reply #3

emilyg — Fri, 06 May 2005 16:43:40 GMT

no problem with email coming through

Reply #2

winsumloosesum — Fri, 06 May 2005 15:13:55 GMT

Or AO Hell

Reply #1

SirMetro — Fri, 06 May 2005 14:56:23 GMT

and folks wonder why AOL is referred to as A$$holes Off-LineSir Metro

AOL is rejecting our e-mail

Todd — Fri, 06 May 2005 14:32:16 GMT

AOL users, your lovely ISP is rejecting almost all of the e-mails we send you. I have done just about everything I can do to work with them to get our e-mails through, so at this point I am throwing in the towel.If you want to receive e-mails from us, I would suggest one of the following:Get a new Internet provider. (What I would do! )Use a non-AOL e-mail address.Contact the AOL postmaster and complain that they are blocking Lottery Post's e-mails.If you choose the third option, be prepared: AO... [ More ]