Hypothetical question...

Reply #34

tntea — Sun, 07 Aug 2005 01:25:57 GMT

I would tell them it was a previous qp I had gotten and decide to play..

Reply #33

BobP — Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:55:18 GMT

Can't say what you're doing sounds predictive, though I did try something simular converting Gail Howard into taking Pick-3 by position and using the D chart to predict five numbers that most often followed the one just drawn based on 1,000 + past draws, some success but too expensive to play, and every time I filtered, it took out the winner as often as leaving it in. You consider adding the birthday paradox to the mix, see how often you find a winning box number among the previous 14 - 16 pas... [ More ]

Reply #32

stoopendaal — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:47:47 GMT

BobP ,

Reply #31

stoopendaal — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:17:33 GMT

Hi,I have to make some modifications to the program (not user friendly at the moment).When I'm finished (today or tomorrow) I wil sent it to you.......... Bye

Reply #30

BobP — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 04:24:58 GMT

Tried a PM stoopendaal has exceeded the maximum number of Private Messages they are allowed to receive. :-(Sure if you can send it as a zipped file attachment, my email is real.

Reply #29

pacattack05 — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 22:19:16 GMT

I wasn't trying to be sarcastic in any way. I really do appreciate the time you've spent on this and a couple of others.My friend is slow to conclusion based on what I said earlier. His wife..the baby...etc... He printed a copy of a list of 12 sets of numbers from this past couple of week's drawings, that the program spit out. Unfortunately he re-hit the program 20 times before finding a match, which was 718 for the next day. I asked him why he did that and should have printed the first punch..... [ More ]

Reply #28

paurths — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 22:12:36 GMT

1000 possible, first, combinations.For each combination there are another 1000 combinations that might follow, makes 1 000 000.For combination number 3, that makes a total of 1 000 000 000 combinations-sets in your database.For each set of 4, makes 1 000 000 000 000.and so on and on... and you'll never know which one to pick... (unless you only go for box then there will be less sets needed, but the amount of possible sets of combinations will stille be amazing...

Reply #27

Pinback — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 21:43:55 GMT

You've been perfectly clear. But don't worry... I wouldn't want to trust someone else either! By all means, do it yourself manually for awhile... but please let us know the results! I'd also be very interested in the results of the other programmer. Of course, being a programmer myself... if he doesn't get the same results I did I'll insist on seeing his code... <g

Reply #26

pacattack05 — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 21:35:47 GMT

I personally think that I'm not making my self clear. That's obviously not your fault. I appreciate your time though. Thanx....

Reply #25

Pinback — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 20:42:06 GMT

Unfortunately, I think you'll quickly find this whole idea falls into the same catagory as the Union Jack method... what I like to call The Stuff That Somebody Made Up But Has No Basis In Mathematics Or Statistics methods.I ran the idea against the Ohio Mid-day Pick 3 drawing. Running it against all 1854 drawings would have taken many hours, but it cleary wasn't necessary.Just to clarify, I ran each pair of winning numbers against the ENTIRE 10 million number database. As I mentioned, each... [ More ]

Reply #24

pacattack05 — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 20:18:48 GMT

Thanx for the info...Pinback....I'm looking to see what those 10 or so matches are, and see if any numbers match the actual lottery results. In other words.....587--two nights ago377--last night ....both in florida.I would like the program to look back at those two numbers in that order and tell me what numbers came after 587 and 377. Let's say that it spit out 10 numbers....107..402...516...567.....308...529....329...925....729....778......Will any of those 10 above match tonight's drawing? Of... [ More ]

Reply #23

Pinback — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 19:55:46 GMT

The last two night's drawing results (or more accurately, ANY two night's drawing results) will appear together MULTIPLE times in the 10 million number database (on average, at least 10 times). Is your plan to look for just the first match, or check EVERY match?I'll have the results this evening... and I'll do some foreshadowing by mentioning that you aren't going to like it... <g

Reply #22

stoopendaal — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:03:41 GMT

Hi BobP,A while ago I used the method/idea you mentioned in a program I developed.But it didn't make no difference if using the method or just generate the combinations randomly.The was no improvement at all........(If you want you can have the program to test it) Bye,Harm

Reply #21

BobP — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:58:40 GMT

If I had to guess a method that might work, it would be a random seed generator that would generate sets of numbers of a user selectable wheelable field size in an amount equal to a range of history plus one. It would check these sets against the draws for a user selected quality of match, say 4#'s correct or better in a user selected percentage of wins against past draws. It would then provide the one additional set that would have been matched against the missing next draw. The idea is to p... [ More ]

Reply #20

Pinback — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 04:51:08 GMT

That's why I make the big bucks... <g

Reply #19

lottaloot — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 04:20:51 GMT

I most certainly would not share it with anyone. Sorry guys--but the money would be mine

Reply #18

pacattack05 — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 03:43:30 GMT

Good deal Pinback...It's always fun working with you...it's amazing how you can write a complex program on such a short notice. Let me know....It took my friend 2 hours to do what you just did. Wow. Amazing Pinback.

Reply #17

Pinback — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 03:33:55 GMT

Ok Pac...I just finished creating a database with 10 million random 3-digit numbers. During a dull conference call tomorrow I'll write a program to run through the Ohio Pick 3 history and for every two drawings check to see if a matching set is in the 10 million database, then see if the next drawing in the lottery matches the next entry in the 10 million database (either straight or boxed). Then we'll see how many hits and misses we get over time.

Reply #16

pacattack05 — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 03:29:28 GMT

True, but it is fun trying to find one. There will never be a system of all systems, but tools are needed, or analyzation to get one step closer.The chase to me, will always be better than the catch.....unfortunately the chase never pays.....

Reply #15

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 03:20:40 GMT

There is no Holy Grail of a system that would work for everyone just Good systems created by individuals who may or may not share it that may or may not work for others.

Reply #14

pacattack05 — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 03:00:39 GMT

Very good question Pinback. This is the crux of what I should have emphasized earlier.According to my friend he seems to talk about the seed to which generates or initiates the sequence.I told him that it really doesn't matter what the seed is as long as the template remains the same. His point was that the seed would make a difference in the outcome , as far as predictions go. I in turn told him that after ten million results it doesn't matter. The sequence has gone full circle so many times th... [ More ]

Reply #13

Pinback — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 02:25:52 GMT

Thanks a lot Pac... now you have me interested!Are the 10 million being generated once and saved as a database to be referenced over and over, or are the 10 million generated on the fly and just stored in memory each time the program is run? In other words... if you use this program on a daily basis, is it always referencing the same 10 million number set or a completely different random 10 million number set each time

Reply #12

pacattack05 — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 01:41:34 GMT

Very finely put Pinback. I know it's frustrating when a solution or an attempt of one is not readily found. I know it can be difficult at times....I've been there and done that....I can't wait till the person has the time to iron out the wrinkles.This friend only has a limited time to configure my request. He has done a quite fantastic job, despite all the distractions. Thursday is the day which more progress will be implemented, just for the sake of timeliness.To answer Pinback's question....I... [ More ]

Reply #11

pacattack05 — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 00:38:19 GMT

10 million number update coming soon...please be patient.....tweaks need to be sorted....thanx...Very Very exciting I should say.....................It'll be worth the wait............The real lottery ......... only 5,000 numbers...... wait till 10,000,000. Simulated....lottery of 10,000,000 drawings. I didn't know I had friends who were so privvy to programming.Maybe even back a hundred million....who knows?????So far so good!!!!! Results are very interesting to say the least......more tests ar... [ More ]

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fast eddie — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 00:25:04 GMT

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paurths — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 00:15:21 GMT

I would say i saw the numbers in a dream many years ago ... whatever. Anyway, if any system found, i would make sure to hit it a few times and then i would put the info (software if possible) on the net, available for anyone who was truly looking for it.No secrets, that's my opinion.

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four4me — Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:12:22 GMT

Rjoh's right about what was said.I say if you show up at lottery headquarters 3/4 times or more in a given period of time having won a pick 5 game top tier prize multiple times over that giving period. Someone there is going to ask you a few questions like how come you are able/were able to win so many times. Of course you don't have to voluntarily give out the information. But should you tell them you have a system that works. They might want to know what you are doing to win so many times. If... [ More ]

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RJOh — Tue, 02 Aug 2005 17:00:14 GMT

Once a lottery matrix and the group size to be picked is set, the numbers of possible outcomes and odds of predicting them can't be manipulated if the results are random. When the lottery set the matrix, the group sizes and the prize payout amounts, they control all that is necessary to guarantee they make money regardless of the success of any prediction scheme in a totally random game. If some one comes up with a way to win often, the lottery will first investigate to see if they have some k... [ More ]

Reply #6

Litebets27 — Tue, 02 Aug 2005 16:16:09 GMT

If I discovered said system and gained enough profits to satisfy me, I would then e-mail my system to different people over a period of time where as to not raise suspicion until we all have gotten what we need. Think that would work?litebets

Reply #5

NemeSys — Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:49:24 GMT

Lottery companies know people are working on systems and methods. It wouldn't surprise me if they have a contigency plan in the event of a truly powerful prediction system coming to light. They would simply develop a means of drawing numbers to defeat it.

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MillionsWanted — Tue, 02 Aug 2005 10:02:56 GMT

I would milk the lotteries for what it's worth for at least 3 years first.Then I might come forward with the system. But if this discovery would make the prize level fall considerably I would hesitate and perhaps only share it with my family.Hypotetically speaking of course.

Reply #3

energy — Tue, 02 Aug 2005 09:17:13 GMT

I am new to this site but from what I have observed there is a lot of help and sharing that takes place here especially through PM and emails. With regard to your question about sharing plans and systems I find everyone has their own plans that they alone understand and from personal experience following someone elses system does not work very well as compared to something you have developed yourself and have tried and tested over time.

Reply #2

Pinback — Tue, 02 Aug 2005 06:49:12 GMT

I'm afraid I don't understand the point. No lottery game has anywhere near that much history, so what are the 10 million numbers? How do they relate to any lottery drawing?Curious minds want to know...

Reply #1

pacattack05 — Tue, 02 Aug 2005 06:45:47 GMT

Gasoline-powered Turtle Neck Sweaters.....No seriously, working on a close-to Holy Grail type of a predictor using 10 million numbers. So far so good......will keep you posted.

Hypothetical question...

Pinback — Tue, 02 Aug 2005 05:58:33 GMT

The Lottery Post is a great place to share ideas and methods. But... what would YOU do if YOU did it... discovered the Holy Grail of playing the lottery. The method that would not only get you wins on a regular basis, but also win you the JACKPOT at least a couple times a year. If you discovered that... would you share it here?Pick 3 and Pick 4 games aren't an issue, because they pay the same no matter how many people win. But for Pick 5 games and up, the amount you get depends upon how ma... [ More ]