Math odds..no digit return. How often ?

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WIN D — Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:16:23 GMT

Superb RJOH. Simple. Nicely done. Thank You

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RJOh — Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:27:24 GMT

There are 1000 possible combinations of 3's. If you remove 3 numbers then there 343 possible combinations of 3's, so there would be 343/1000 odds that a combination coming up today would not have one of the numbers in the previous drawing if the previous drawing had 3 different numbers.However if the last number was a double then there would 512 combinations of 3's that wouldn't contain those two numbers, so there would 512/1000 odds that a combination coming up today would not have one of the t... [ More ]

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CARBOB — Mon, 03 Oct 2005 15:26:10 GMT

WD, Read the post started by CD. It shows some stats from a couple of states.Carbob

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WIN D — Mon, 03 Oct 2005 14:40:40 GMT

Thank you John. Your special talents are appreciated here so very much. It will take some time for me to organize all the implications. There will be several. 39.249 Always suspected ...but never confirmed without your help. It will be nice to build on a rock rather than sand for a change. This may be of interest to those that follow the Pick 4 game. The example that follows is from the Georgia midday game. This list contains just the single numbers ABCD. There were 167 sin... [ More ]

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johnph77 — Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:19:47 GMT

WIN D -This one was so easy once the method came to me I'm almost embarrassed to admit it. It wasn't done by formulas but rather by programming.Triples:As inferred by my previous post, if a triple is the first three-digit number, there are 729 possibilities that the next number drawn will not have a duplicate of the first draw. Note that 729 is the cube of 9.Doubles:I took the numbers 0 and 1 for an example. Of the 1,000 possible numbers, 488 have the numbers 0 and/or 1 in them, leaving 512 poss... [ More ]

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WIN D — Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:51:29 GMT

But Badger..... doubles are even worse return rate of only 27% and people still play doubles. Anyway.... that question of how often a digit does return.... The thing that throws that off is the times it goes over board. The times2 digit return. That happens about every 9 draws on average and will mess up a person playing for a one digit return. It all comes down to the fact that one can't play any system every day but must look for a special set of circumstances before we pull the trigger. We h... [ More ]

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Badger — Sat, 24 Sep 2005 20:10:33 GMT

WIN D,Somewhere on LP in the past, I did a research for Pick 3 in a number of states as to how often they do get a one-digit return (just the opposite from what yo uask, but the math answer to what you want would be easy to calculate knowing when a digit does return) -- as I remember, a digit returns approximately (and consistently) about 47-48% of the time. Therefore, it is yet another of those 50/50 indicators....not much help. Half the time you'll be correct. Not good enough.

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johnph77 — Sat, 24 Sep 2005 04:19:05 GMT

WIN D -The formula would have to be calculated on a 271/729 base, as any given number appears 271 times in all one thousand 3-number combinations. Fortunately for calculation purposes, 729 is the cube of 9.There'd be a million possibilities - one of a thousand numbers followed by another one of a thousand numbers. You'd have to include the doubles and triples in the building process.I'm a bit busy right now but if I get some spare time, sounds interesting.glj

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WIN D — Sat, 24 Sep 2005 01:23:00 GMT

I guess ....bottom line so far ,,,for now... is this. The hit rate for a full 365 draw year including the doubles on this real world example ended up with 92 hits. That means without any regard to SKIPS OR DOUBLES during the year and playing every darn day like a robot..... regardless of the flow,,,, you would expect the 7 digit wheel to win..... around 1/4 th. the time. This is playing from single to single number. Always playing the wheel based on the (no show) digits in the last 6 way... not

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WIN D — Sat, 24 Sep 2005 00:38:24 GMT

Well .....that hurt! Just spent 1 hour on a large post and it just went POOF! Went to print and it would not print. Service unavailable. Oh well.... had no idea it would be so large. Went through one at a time and marked each one of the wins for the last year. They were counted Wins if you always wheeled the 7 digits that did not play in the number the draw before. It was hard. Anyway.... ended up with 92 of them out of265 Six way numbers in the last 365 draws. During the year it looked like t... [ More ]

Math odds..no digit return. How often ?

WIN D — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 18:47:43 GMT

Math wise .....how often will we get a no digit return from the previous draw? Pick 3 and Pick 4. If you don't show your work I'll have to count the entire answer wrong. LOL Thanks