Determing doubles with 1up/1down

Reply #60

calabs — Wed, 05 Apr 2006 01:54:09 GMT

Thanks very much tntea

Reply #59

tntea — Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:30:17 GMT

Great method.. looking for double 4's in TN..

Reply #58

calabs — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:11:30 GMT

VERY NICE

Reply #57

cps10 — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:07:43 GMT

PA was only 2 draws out...very nice!

27 numbers x 2 draws x $0.25 = $13.50 to play

$75.00 x 2 (for the 8 and the 2) = $150.00 cashed out

$136.50 PROFIT

Reply #56

cps10 — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:05:33 GMT

Anybody have the DYNAMITE?! Because we just blew that sucker up in PA!!!

4/4 Midday: 8-8-2 (from trigger 0-8-2) two numbers! Would have had two hits in one draw!!

Notice the GREEN for our win

Reply #55

cps10 — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 18:01:45 GMT

You are welcome...I guess we need to monitor the next four draws from those states listed above and see how well we could have done

Reply #54

calabs — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:50:43 GMT

Thanks very much cps10

Reply #53

cps10 — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:39:18 GMT

calabs

Maybe it is...and if that's the case, then you should be happy about that!! Nice hit last night by the way on the double 8s

Reply #52

calabs — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:34:59 GMT

Thank you cps - I think you're the first who has attempted to test other states and reported it (other may have but have been silent). Hey, maybe NJ is the magic state

Reply #51

cps10 — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:27:28 GMT

So far,

Tri-State drew today, 8-6-9 (at least the 8 was in there!)

Ohio drew today, 2-9-5 (the 2 and 9 in there

Reply #50

cps10 — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:26:37 GMT

Double triggers for 4/3:

DE (Mid): 5-3-8

KY (Mid): 8-1-0

KY (Eve): 4-2-5

MD (Mid): 4-2-4

PA (Mid): 0-8-2

SC (Mid): 6-5-4

SC (Eve): 8-7-6 <---------rare event to have 2 series in one day

Tri (Mid): 8-1-0

ID (Eve): 5-3-4

MO (Eve): 7-5-5

OH (Eve): 9-3-2

ON (Eve): 4-2-6

Reply #49

cps10 — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:18:50 GMT

Very nice calabs,

I need to scrub through last night's drawings and see if there were any triggers and then wait and see what happens.

Reply #48

calabs — Tue, 04 Apr 2006 15:35:18 GMT

Yes another example of the trigger. This time with a skip of one draw:

NJ 4/02 EVE: 510

NJ 4/03 EVE: 885

This time one of the doubles coming from the original trigger fell (boxed; i.e. 511,522,533,544,566,577,588,599,500).

Can you hear the trigger???? CLIK-BANG

Reply #47

cps10 — Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:44:55 GMT

That is interesting...I am still struggling with this...I hope to get it worked out well soon

Reply #46

calabs — Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:52:33 GMT

Another example of how the doubles trigger operates. Friday midday P3 in NJ was 978. This time the double skipped a draw, and fell on the second draw, Saturday midday (664). This was in one of the workouts for NJ, and wound up being a big win for Zippy! Congrats to Zippy!!!!!

So determining which double to play can be derived from different ways. This time playing the doubles from a workout paid off

Reply #45

tntea — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:42:21 GMT

053=051 052 053 056 057 058 054 055 531 532 533 536 537 538 534 535 031 032 033 036 037 038 034 035

There is the string for 053... look at those doubles in that string.. and those in the v-114/441= 003,008,053,058,553,558,033,038,088,533,538,588

Reply #44

calabs — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:22:01 GMT

OK, let me get this straight. I'm looking at your blog. Last night's P3 was 530. So I look at the string for doubles like so?

057=051 052 053 506 057 058 059 050 571 572 573 576 577 578 579 570 071 072 073 076 077 078 079 070

Now this string all have the same vtrac v113, so we'd be looking for the double vtrac return? Would we also be looking for V133 as well, and the doubles associated with that string

Reply #43

tntea — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:51:21 GMT

I use to determine which doubles.. and then of course if a double warning appears.. I start looking closer..

Reply #42

calabs — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:43:32 GMT

THAT S IT!!!!!!

But everyone should do their own state to see if this works. Some states may show the mirror more often. Other may show the double a little later. One other way to test which double may fall is to incorporate this into your workout. If doubles are showing, then perhaps that may be a way to narrow down the picks, or perhaps give you a warm and fuzzy feeling that doubles will come.

Reply #41

calabs — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:39:02 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Tarzan on March 31, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by calabs on February 7, 2006 Tntea - Using the 023 format (i.e. take the number and leave the first digit alone, add two to the second digit, and add 3 to the third digit). So for example 20X (lets say the number is 206) then the new number would be 229. Make sense?

Hi calabs, where can I get the info on 023 format? Trying to learn from your post!

Hey Tarzan - If you haven't already, read all the posts of thi... [ More ]

Reply #40

cps10 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:34:58 GMT

For example,

If 315 comes out, then that is the trigger, because 315 + 023 = 338

Then you would play the doubles associated with the digits 3 1 5:

311 322 344 355 366 377 388 399

122 133 144 155 166 177 188 199

511 522 533 544 566 577 588 599

Reply #39

Tarzan — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:32:09 GMT

Thank you! Every little bit helps

Reply #38

cps10 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:23:42 GMT

Tarzan

It's quite simple...when one of those triggers at the beginning comes up, then you play the doubles of the digits that came up for the next draw.

Reply #37

Tarzan — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:18:26 GMT

Hi calabs, where can I get the info on 023 format? Trying to learn from your post

Reply #36

calabs — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:13:42 GMT

Yes, but rare, at least in NJ. There may be other states that show the mirror more often.

So midday NJ was 978 (series number; nailed a box today!). Now this number is a doubles trigger, so let's see what happens over the next couple of draws.

978 + 023 = 991

Reply #35

cps10 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:53:17 GMT

okay...right o'!

I would assume that in that case, you would be playing

911 922 933 944 955 966 977 988

711 722 733 744 755 766 788 799

I have found a few whereby you play those #s, they come out

199 299 399 499 599 699 799 899

177 277 377 477 577 677 877 977

Reply #34

calabs — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:40:11 GMT

When you add 023 to the number, you use lottery math, so the ten's gets dropped. So 979 would be 992.

Reply #33

cps10 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:14:07 GMT

Yeah, that makes sense. Now, how to deal with this....

what if you have 979, which would be in the 97x.

If you add 23 to it, you get 1002. Does that matter, or do you throw that one out since its result isn't a true double

Reply #32

calabs — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:02:57 GMT

No that's right, so when trigger 076 appears, you play

011...............etc,

711...............etc.

611...............etc.

But as I said, sometimes these numbers don't show. A lot of time Laverne's numbers come out, but of her doubles show in the workout too. Make sense now

Reply #31

cps10 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:54:43 GMT

calabs...sorry about that...I will look backwards

Anyway, so with the 076 example, you are playing 0, 7, 6 doubles, since the 076 is the trigger or do I have it backwards?

Whew

Reply #30

calabs — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:47:16 GMT

If you look at the very first post of this thread, you will see the triggers.

Reply #29

calabs — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:46:25 GMT

No I usually play the doubles from the doubles trigger, and not from the outcome of the 023 additive, but your progression is right. You're right in that the 067 is a doubles trigger, but these triggers are much less reliable than the other.

Reply #28

cps10 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:50:14 GMT

Hey calabs

do you happen to have a list of the triggers

Reply #27

cps10 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:49:39 GMT

That's what I meant...076....lol. But wouldn't 067 be a trigger too since it's 090? Just curious...

But you do play the doubles of the digits in the 023generated number from the trigger, not from the trigger?

In other words, with the 099, you play

011 022 033 etc

911 922 933 etc

as opposed to

011 022 033

611 622 633

711 722 733

Reply #26

calabs — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:43:19 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by cps10 on March 31, 2006 Good morning and Great Friday to you calabs!

I wonder if we should revisit this and maybe blow the filters up on it, because I recall that the filters started giving us skewed results.

Lets say that you have a trigger in the afternoon: 067

Adding 23 to it gives up 090. Now, would you play the 0 9 doubles for the next draw or two, or three or four? You could progress that as well and give up after 4 draws, although I don't think that... [ More ]

Reply #25

cps10 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:33:01 GMT

Good morning and Great Friday to you calabs!

I wonder if we should revisit this and maybe blow the filters up on it, because I recall that the filters started giving us skewed results.

Lets say that you have a trigger in the afternoon: 067

Adding 23 to it gives up 090. Now, would you play the 0 9 doubles for the next draw or two, or three or four? You could progress that as well and give up after 4 draws, although I don't think that you would need to progress, unless you just took you... [ More ]

Reply #24

calabs — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:11:48 GMT

Good morning cps10!

When the doubles trigger occurs, and when the doubles comes out, the double falls on the next draw MOST of the time, but may occur on the following draw. If it does not, then chasing it any further would not be worth it. There have been times where the double falls 3 or 4 draws later, however.

I recall us going through this system using filters, and money was made.

Reply #23

cps10 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:59:10 GMT

calabs

Are the doubles coming out the NEXT draw after you get the trigger? And if so, how often do they win and lose? I remember testing this a little bit in the past, but can't think of how well it did.

Reply #22

calabs — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:54:03 GMT

Thank you Tntea - This is very useful. I will back test the states I follow.

So just to clarify - is the old system a way to determine when doubles will fall, or just which double MIGHT fall based on the string which is triggered by the last draw number? I see other possibilities there as well. Thanks again.

Reply #21

tntea — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:50:53 GMT

733=738 739 730 734 735 736 338 339 330 334 335 335 336

MI last night.. 337

Using the OLD method.. doubles to play were... 339 338 330 334 335 336

I This system for double catching...

Reply #20

tntea — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:28:00 GMT

Thu, Mar 30, 20062-8-48-8-4

Got another double in GA... look in blog.. for midday .. 284 the string says play

283 284 285 289 280 281 286 287 243 244 245 249 240 241 247 843 844 845 849 840 841 847

because I am cautious.. I play the mate... lol Little Old Lady suggest that to me sometime back..

Reply #19

tntea — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:01:23 GMT

There are several ways I detect doubles in pick 3

One is with the warning.. the zero warning.. which works great most of the time..

Another is how I grabbed TN today.. using what I refer to as the OLD method:: ( listed in my blog)

How it works..

Take the number from a draw.. say

547 last night in TN..

add 1 , 2, 3 to each digit..

breaking it down into three pairs.. 45 57 47.. I use each of the numbers that I got when I added the 1, 2, 3,,

example

5 4 7

6... [ More ]

Reply #18

calabs — Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:47:36 GMT

NJ 3/29 EVE: - 598 (598 + 023 = 511)

NJ 3/30 MID: - 575

Doubles trigger shows a double in the next draw. Another example of the double containing one number from the double trigger. This time it produced the mirror of 577, which would be derived from the doubles from the 5 coming from the 3/29 EVE draw (see other examples above). There have been a couple more since 3/11, but I have not posted them.

I love it when this happens

Reply #17

calabs — Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:42:32 GMT

Sorry - Correction on my last post: should read

NJ 3/11 EVE: 898

Reply #16

calabs — Sun, 12 Mar 2006 04:37:12 GMT

NJ 3/11 MID: 309 (309 + 023 = 322)

NJ Sun EVE: 898

Doubles trigger shows a double in the next draw. Another example of the double containing one number from the double trigger (not unusual to repeat on dig from previous draw). So if one were to play the doubles from 309:

300,311,322,344,355,366,377,388,399

011,022,033,044,055,066,077,088,099

900,911,922,933,944,955,966,977,988

Reply #15

calabs — Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:12:34 GMT

NJ Tues EVE: 313 (313 + 023 = 336) (this was the Green ball draw)

NJ Wed EVE: 252

Again, a doubles trigger shows a double within the next 2 draws. working very well and consistantly lately.

Reply #14

calabs — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:09:33 GMT

NJ Sun MID: 098 (098 + 023 = 011)

NJ Sun EVE: 033

Doubles trigger shows a double in the next draw. I have also noticed that quite often, the double will contain one number from the double trigger (not unusual to repeat on dig from previous draw). So if one were to play the doubles from 098, you would have:

011, 022, 033, 044, 055, 066, 077, 088, 099

900, 911, 922, 933, 944, 955, 966, 977, 988

800, 811, 822, 833, 844, 855, 866, 877, 899

Back testing for one year showed that m... [ More ]

Reply #13

calabs — Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:56:51 GMT

Once again the triggers brought out doubles tonight in NJ. The green ball the other evening was a doubles trigger. three skips later (tonight) adn 757 fell in NJ. Now this double also is a doubles trigger using the 023 rule (757 + 023 = 770). Look for doubles within the next few draws. this system needs some refining, perhaps with the aid of filters. If anyone has a suggestion as to how to narrow down WHICH double will fall, I'm all ears.

Reply #12

calabs — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:32:02 GMT

Hi Ladydee - Yes, it worked again today! Last night the draw was 910. this too is a trigger, so add the 023 and you get 933. This tells you that a double will fall within a couple of draws. As it turns out, this midday, 055 fell. Still trying to figure out which double is likely to fall. But using others' methods and grids, there are likely doubles to pick from these grids. Did it with 889 yesterday midday, but was not able to play because the machines were down when I went to buy tix... [ More ]

Reply #11

LadyDee61 — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:09:34 GMT

Hello I'm Ladydee61 I will try that method with 023 .I'm in new jersey and i am trying to hit the pick3.No luck as yet but i will try your method i understand it.Cause i was doing 123 and that works sometimes.It's late or early sunday morning .Feb.12.I got to close my eyes now,but the number today sat.day-was889 and then tonite's number was 910.I kinda see what you are doing.So keep me posted cause this system works but where would get the 9 from i see the second 8 would be 0 and the 9 would be... [ More ]

Reply #10

mylollipop — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:15:51 GMT

In the quest to win above $150.00, I have found that all the systems out there do not produce big winners. The big jackpot winners just pick their own numbers, don't they

Reply #9

calabs — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:55:53 GMT

well, it happened again.

Feb 10, midday: 976 (999 using the 023 rule)

Feb 11, midday: 889! (Skip = 1)

Missed this one because the machines were down when I went to get tix. Would have played (one of Lavernes GEMS) straight. Keep looking for the double triggers! They will produce doubles more times than not

Reply #8

calabs — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:38:22 GMT

Sorry for any confusion on my last post. It should have read;

--------------------------------------------------------------------

New Jersey Midday: 425 (425 +023 rule = 448).

New Jersey Evening: 331

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I think I need a new keyboard

Reply #7

calabs — Wed, 08 Feb 2006 04:51:32 GMT

well, it seemed to have followed suit tonight

New Jersey Midday: 425 (425 +029 rule = 445).

New Jersey Evening: 331

So again doubles fell after one of the triggers, in this case 42X. Too bad it wasn't one of the doubles I played tonight

Reply #6

tntea — Wed, 08 Feb 2006 01:26:39 GMT

Tue, Feb 7, 20069-0-53-1-15-0-4-39-8-1-1

Mon, Feb 6, 20061-0-50-1-27-1-9-43-3-1-4

Using OH here as an example.. 012 fell last night.. So one would play 11x or 22x... since 105 fell yesterday midday.. I went with the 11x

Reply #5

tntea — Wed, 08 Feb 2006 01:24:40 GMT

Thanks.. 229 would be double to play after a 20 pair hitting .. That is how I do the double warnings..

If the double comes without warning.. I play the digits with a zero..

Reply #4

calabs — Wed, 08 Feb 2006 01:13:42 GMT

Tntea - Using the 023 format (i.e. take the number and leave the first digit alone, add two to the second digit, and add 3 to the third digit). So for example 20X (lets say the number is 206) then the new number would be 229. Make sense

Reply #3

tntea — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 22:36:10 GMT

I am trying to comprehend what you are doing here.. how did you get the 20X using 023 to get the 22X

Reply #2

calabs — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 21:57:20 GMT

kdarji - As I mentioned, the system doesn't predict (from what I have studied thus far) which number will fall, only that doubles are very likely to fall. Still working out the specifics. There must be something there I haven't found yet

Reply #1

kdarji — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 21:46:00 GMT

Hey calabs, do you see any double that will fall tonight in NJ... Let me know.. THanks

Determing doubles with 1up/1down

calabs — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 21:32:36 GMT

Most know of the system which uses one up/one down from previous draws to come up with subsequent draws. In addition to the one up/down a second set of numbers can be derived using the 023 formula (123 becomes 146) and so on.

By accident I came across a way to determine when doubles will occur. This system was back tested in NJ only so I'm not sure if it works in other states. Anyway, what I did was I backtested by looking for doubles (any doubles at this point). I worked back 2-3 draws... [ More ]