New Trends - Old Trends - Combined Trends

Reply #44

cps10 — Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:02:08 GMT

so about once every 12 draws

Reply #43

JAP69 — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:02:55 GMT

I do not have the avg skip time available.

I only have figured the percentage what that group is in the no match combos and the percentage of hits for the year.

This group makes up about 25% of the 210 no match combos

This group has a hit percentage of a years 677 combined draws of being drawn 09.402% in the past year.

Reply #42

cps10 — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:25:48 GMT

I will have to investigate a little further for this...will do SC first .... like the average skip time. Would you happen to have that available to you

Reply #41

cps10 — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:23:16 GMT

So you started in Feb of '05? I see that there were some hits in Jan 05 as well.

Reply #40

JAP69 — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:18:25 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by cps10 on February 10, 2006 Not bad at all. Using singles only right?

Using singles only

This will give a better idea of the hit skip

all of the past year results

Wed, Feb 8, 2006 South Carolina Midday 4 9-4-0-1

Mon, Feb 6, 2006 South Carolina Midday 4 2-0-1-5

Sun, Feb 5, 2006 South Carolina Pick 4 4-5-9-3

Thu, Feb 2, 2006 South Carolina Pick 4 5-0-2-1

Sun, Jan 29, 2006 South Carolina Pick 4 7-6-5-3

Tue, Jan 17, 2006 South Carolina Pick 4 4-8-3

Reply #39

cps10 — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:04:11 GMT

Not bad at all. Using singles only right

Reply #38

cps10 — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:59:24 GMT

Interesting, yet more back testing to do....

Reply #37

JAP69 — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:57:47 GMT

I went and pulled the first two sets in search past drawings and found these for combined drawings mid and eve for past year.

0 1 2 [45678]

0 1 9 [34567]

Wed, Feb 8, 2006 South Carolina Midday 4 9-4-0-1

Mon, Feb 6, 2006 South Carolina Midday 4 2-0-1-5

Thu, Feb 2, 2006 South Carolina Pick 4 5-0-2-1

Fri, Jan 13, 2006 South Carolina Midday 4 1-2-0-8

Fri, Dec 23, 2005 South Carolina Midday 4 6-1-2-0

Tue, Dec 20, 2005 South Carolina Midday 4 0-2-6-1

Fri, Dec 9, 2005 South Caro... [ More ]

Reply #36

JAP69 — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:22:07 GMT

It has been quite some time since I looked. I do not track them on a regular basis as my softwre does not contain that combo in the combo report.

I just pulled S.C. mid-day to take a peek. Looks like they have their runs and skip for a bit.

Fri, Feb 10, 2006 1-7-3-6

Thu, Feb 9, 2006 7-9-2-9

_______________________Wed, Feb 8, 2006 9-4-0-1

Tue, Feb 7, 2006 0-2-4-0

_______________________Mon, Feb 6, 2006 2-0-1-5

Sat, Feb 4, 2006 3-0-8-8

Fri, Feb 3, 2006 4-2-9-4

Thu, Feb 2, 2006

Reply #35

cps10 — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:11:04 GMT

JP

So these hit pretty regularly? What are the frequencies?

KC

Reply #34

JAP69 — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:05:29 GMT

there is a group of consecutive numbers in the pick 4 that I do not see discussed much. Something I came across while studying numbers one day. I checked them out one time for hit frequency and they do pretty good on hittin.

I call it a three way consecutive no match

the three consecutive numbers plus the non

consecutive number in the brackets [-----]

looks like 50 numbers

0 1 2 [45678]

0 1 9 [34567]

0 8 9 [23456]

1 2 3 [56789

Reply #33

cps10 — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:48:58 GMT

I will have to check my consecutives and figure out which ones come out more often, with Clean or NON-Clean. Thanks for the list

Reply #32

LANTERN — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:28:20 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by cps10 on February 9, 2006 Hey LANTERN - I did an analysis with some help from JAP69 on the consecutive pairs. There are 70 singles and 16 doubles in Pick-3

There are 185 Singles in Pick 4 consecutives

There are 210 Doubles in Pick 4 consecutives

There are 10 Double-Doubles in Pick 4 consecutives

There are 20 Triples in Pick 4 consecutives

This is all very interesting...starting to put things together like you suggested.

cps 10

Very good, I am... [ More ]

Reply #31

cps10 — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 03:11:20 GMT

Hey LANTERN - I did an analysis with some help from JAP69 on the consecutive pairs. There are 70 singles and 16 doubles in Pick-3

There are 185 Singles in Pick 4 consecutives

There are 210 Doubles in Pick 4 consecutives

There are 10 Double-Doubles in Pick 4 consecutives

There are 20 Triples in Pick 4 consecutives

This is all very interesting...starting to put things together like you suggested.

Reply #30

cps10 — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:39:58 GMT

Thanks LANTERN, that explains it more clear

Reply #29

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:30:18 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by cps10 on February 9, 2006 Do you happen to have a list of all of the CLEAN numbers in boxed format? That could be worth looking into.

Clean numbers is just what MikeK named them for, it does not have anything to do with them being GOOD or BAD, it is just a name.

111 is not a clean number nor 999, nor 579, not 142, nor 064 nor 137.

They have to have at least 1 high digit + 1 low digit + 1 Odd digit + 1 Even digit.

I will post a list sometime tomorrow here o... [ More ]

Reply #28

cps10 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:28:42 GMT

See ya later LANTERN! Thanks for your help

Reply #27

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:25:21 GMT

Also do the Low to high digits Difference and the 0 to 5 Lowest digit, 2 to 7 Middle digit and the 5 to 9 Highest digit, combined static filters. Together with the Clean Numbers filters to see how things look for them.

As I did with the Texas draws at the beginning of the thread.

This is all for today, I have to go.

Goodbye.

Reply #26

cps10 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:25:00 GMT

Do you happen to have a list of all of the CLEAN numbers in boxed format? That could be worth looking into.

Reply #25

cps10 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:24:33 GMT

Maybe it would help me to see an example of what you would consider a Dirty number and why that is? For the most part, they all look clean , unless something like 689 would be bad b/c it is all High? Or perhaps 579 is really bad since it is all high and all odd

Reply #24

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:21:30 GMT

The Mid and the Eve draws would had to be combined to get the combined stats for both draws.

Reply #23

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:19:48 GMT

cps 10

South Carolina Midday 3 Previous Lottery Results 3 Consec+Clean #s

Thu, Feb 9, 2006 .2-0-9 C Clean Number, Mostly LE= Low+Even.

Wed, Feb 8, 2006 .9-1-6 HO

Tue, Feb 7, 2006 .9-1-1 LO

Mon, Feb 6, 2006 .3-7-9 HO

Sat, Feb 4, 2006 .7-8-7 C HO

Fri, Feb 3, 2006 .2-6-1 C Clean LE

Thu, Feb 2, 2006 .8-3-9 C Clean HO

Wed, Feb 1, 2006 .1-4-3 C LO

Tue, Jan 31, 2006 1-8-6 HE

Mon, Jan 30, 2006 0-3-7 LO

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SC Eve Lottery results for pick 3. 5 Consect + Clean Numbers

Draw Date R... [ More ]

Reply #22

cps10 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:14:46 GMT

I will have to ask Raven...

There is actually only 210 single combinations for the Pick-4 game. And I just did a random look-through for SC Evening, and it seems to hit an awful lot, sometimes with a triple effect.

Could be worth looking into.

I think with Pick-4 I could combine an overdue/wheeling/consecutives example to maximize profits while minimizing bankroll drawdown.

Reply #21

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:10:43 GMT

I have not ever looked a the pick 4 numbers yet, so i really don't know, but some-things are just 10 times as many, so maybe 700 boxed consecutives for singles and 200 boxed for doubles ?

I don't know

Reply #20

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:04:31 GMT

As for Virginia, very good, stats tell the tale as it is for sure.

But mid to short trends are always more important than long trends, but all of them have their proper place of course and all count.

Whatever works and is best, go for it, but on paper first and for a while, ALWAYS, you don't want to end up like Losing Jeff did.

Reply #19

cps10 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:01:57 GMT

LOL...yeah...it isn't a four-letter word to me either, but to some it is :)

Anyway, that is fine about the double consecs.

I might pull up some other spreadsheets from tests to see if there is anything else I might be able to correlate to narrow it down a bit. In a worse case scenario, I am looking at 70 combinations. I would like to reduce that even further though with some other filtering.

Do you think the consecs could work for Pick-4 as well? That could pose a problem since doubles... [ More ]

Reply #18

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:59:17 GMT

But yes, of course, you do get pay double for any-kind of double number consec or not.

Reply #17

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:57:15 GMT

No I would not count a 3 digit Consecutive as a double consec, just as 1 more of them consec.

There are so few 3 digits consecs that I just put all of them together.

Reply #16

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:53:30 GMT

It is NOT a 4 letter word to me, I just had trouble spelling the word right and had to look it up and correct my post.

Reply #15

cps10 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:52:33 GMT

I agree - I would leave out the doubles. Just eats at your overall bottom line.

I am still a little confused on the Clean numbers, but I will read over that again.

Would you count a double consecutive (i.e., 1-2-3) as 2 consecutives? I would, because if I were betting all 70 consecutives, I would get a payout of double. Right?

VIRGINIA Test

Over the course of 2005, I found the following stats to be interesting:

Average number of draws in a row that consecutives were drawn (singles... [ More ]

Reply #14

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:38:40 GMT

cps 10

South Carolina Midday 3 Previous Lottery Results 3 Consec+Clean #s

Thu, Feb 9, 2006 .2-0-9 C Clean Number

Wed, Feb 8, 2006 .9-1-6

Tue, Feb 7, 2006 .9-1-1

Mon, Feb 6, 2006 .3-7-9

Sat, Feb 4, 2006 .7-8-7 C

Fri, Feb 3, 2006 .2-6-1 C Clean

Thu, Feb 2, 2006 .8-3-9 C Clean

Wed, Feb 1, 2006 .1-4-3 C

Tue, Jan 31, 2006 1-8-6

Mon, Jan 30, 2006 0-3-7

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SC Eve Lottery results for pick 3. 5 Consect + Clean Numbers

Draw Date Results

Wed, Feb 8, 2006 .0-9-7 C Clean N... [ More ]

Reply #13

cps10 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:27:42 GMT

As for Wife , yes, I realize that is a four-letter word for many people

Reply #12

cps10 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:27:11 GMT

LANTERN

Yes, that is what I do. I apply the progressive strategy to online wagering.

Offline, the payout isn't as good, so it's hard to adapt a set of numbers to the state games. It is not profitable that way. Either that, or you need a bankroll the size of Steve Player.

I will be playing online once I get my winning system down, which I have about a dozen or so that I am testing now. But for regular play, I play in SC when I get a chance. I am in Charlotte, so the border is about 5 mil... [ More ]

Reply #11

cps10 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:24:39 GMT

It's funny that you mention this. I have about 8 different types of subgroups and patterns available based on all of the research I have done from LP and now it's just a matter of tying them altogether. That's when my brain starts to fry.

Reply #10

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:09:51 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by cps10 on February 9, 2006 LANTERN

I like their posts and read them a lot.

I also work with progressive betting too. I think it helps out a little bit.

Progressible betting is only good online where you can start to play at 25 cents per combo and go up from there. But it works only with a winning system, otherwise you end-up bankrupt like our friend Jeff from Indiana.

By the Way, Which state do you play ? Sc ?

OOPS! I see that you do, if you and your wif... [ More ]

Reply #9

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:04:10 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by cps10 on February 9, 2006 I like the consecutives...I see it all the time. My wife is starting to get frustrated with me when we watch the SC draws before Seinfeld, because I am always shouting out: SEE! The consecutives hit AGAIN!!

It almost seems too easy, but then again, who knows? Maybe I will look at 40 past draws and then do an average of the number of consecs that came out and then make a determination on how many draws it should be out.

Thanks, as usua... [ More ]

Reply #8

cps10 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:02:52 GMT

LANTERN

I like their posts and read them a lot.

I also work with progressive betting too. I think it helps out a little bit.

Reply #7

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:57:44 GMT

By the way the Pattern(s) point or points of Reference(s) does not have to be the last past draw, it can be, but does not have to be, it can be any draw or draws of the past draws, it can even be a draws or draws from other state or states pick 3 game, use whatver seems to work best At That Particular Time Period and change with time as needed if needed, yes, it does not have to make any logical sense at all, the only requirement is that It has to work or needs to work for you to use it. L... [ More ]

Reply #6

cps10 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:50:32 GMT

I like the consecutives...I see it all the time. My wife is starting to get frustrated with me when we watch the SC draws before Seinfeld, because I am always shouting out: SEE! The consecutives hit AGAIN!!

It almost seems too easy, but then again, who knows? Maybe I will look at 40 past draws and then do an average of the number of consecs that came out and then make a determination on how many draws it should be out.

Thanks, as usual, for all of your posts on here LANTERN.

Reply #5

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:39:13 GMT

cps 10

Most of the time the last 4 to 40 draws is all that you need and you can even make do with just the last 10 to 15 or so draws.

I have been known to predict at least once with only just 1 past draw (The last draw).

Reply #4

cps10 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:30:00 GMT

LANTERN - that makes sense. I will have to study some trends then...maybe I can figure out that if one consecutive comes out, then X number will come behind it, or if Y hasn't come out, then expect some then. I am sort of subscribed to the due factor. However, I don't have the resources to see what the average number of draws it is where a consecutive has NOT fallen over the course of 10 years or so. If that info was available - which is a stat like you mention - then you could devise a workab... [ More ]

Reply #3

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:14:35 GMT

For singles, there are 70 consecutives out of the 120, unless I am wrong, for the doubles there are only 20 consecutives out of the 90, I am talking boxed or any-order combos only.

Reply #2

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:59:05 GMT

cps 10

It all has to do with the stats for that game at that particular time for the last 7 to 60 draws and also overall for all the total draws for that game and state. Statistics is all that there is to go by.

Take a very good look at all: Short term, mid term and long term stats for that draw-game-state.

Follow your better judgement.

I don't go too much for due, over-due myself, at least not yet.

As CalifDude says: Play what is Hot not what is Cold

Follow the TRENDS. Look... [ More ]

Reply #1

cps10 — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:42:48 GMT

LANTERN - would you think that perhaps when following a trend such as the consecutives, that you set a number of draws out that a consecutive is out, and once it goes over that number of draws, to hammer it with some wagering?

For example, let's say that you have established that if a consecutive (which should hit 58% of the time) has not come up in 4 draws (just for example), then you should start betting it?

Conversely, if you establish that consecutives shouldn't go on more than a 4-dra... [ More ]

New Trends - Old Trends - Combined Trends

LANTERN — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:27:42 GMT

The last time that I talked about Tx the consecutives were hitting like crazy, now Texas seems to have FIXED that Problem? , for the last 24 combined draws (12 MId+12 Eve) it seems that only on 9 draws were Consec #, take into account that 70 combos out of the 120 boxed singles are consecs, but everything works in one way or another, the thing is to follow the trends as Califdude seems to do, if consecs come out then do them, if non consecs come out more then do those instead, only way to sta... [ More ]