one to won

Reply #14

jim695 — Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:41:02 GMT

BobP:

Thanks for the input.

I completely agree with your comments about One to Won. Their systems are comparatively inexpensive, but when you examine their methods, it makes you wonder how they can accept anyone's money for those products and still sleep at night. These include the Box On Down method and something they call The Magic Box method (if I recall). These systems aren't exactly scientific, in my opinion, but they do sell a lot of them to gullible novice players.

I'm no dif... [ More ]

Reply #13

emilyg — Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:54:50 GMT

i have one to won and steve player. the most disappointing and expensive - steve player. when i shell out $500 - don't expect to have to tweak and figure.

just ordered mr. z's. will let you know.

Reply #12

BobP — Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:54:28 GMT

It has been some time since I purchased several One to Won systems and all made no sense to play. When I inquired further I was sent the writer's requirements to submit a system to One to Won for publication. The main point was the system start with a drawing and progress through at least three steps to an outcome. That the system actually win prizes was not one of the requirements. When you understand probability, most systems should play at house odds so there will be wins, playing at a pr... [ More ]

Reply #11

Todd — Wed, 15 Feb 2006 04:02:45 GMT

FYI, the key wheels are my own, not from the book, Combinatorial Lottery Systems (Wheels) with Guaranteed Wins. Yes, many from the book are in there, and I do heartily recommend that excellent book, but there are many other wheels here at LP that are not in the book.

(People looking for the book can click the link on the left side of the page for a good price.

Reply #10

steve3656 — Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:47:41 GMT

Todd

I followed your advise and checked out the page of the various wheels, it was a pleasant surprise when I read that you were utilizing the wheeling system from Iliya Bluskov book Combinatorial Lottery Systems (Wheels) with Guaranteed Wins, because I actually purchased this book several months ago and I did exchange a few emails with Iliya. I never realized that he also implemented a key number in his wheels because in the past I have just copied the wheels from his book and manually inp... [ More ]

Reply #9

Todd — Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:28:39 GMT

Steve,

There are really two completely separate arts at work when playing lotto games: number selection and wheeling.

As I had mentioned earlier, I'm not a big fan of the GH wheels, because I think they are far bulkier than necessary, causing you to spend much more money for similar results at best compared to other wheels.

On the other hand, number selection is a totally different story. It's quite possible that GH has good number selection theories, I don't really know because I have... [ More ]

Reply #8

steve3656 — Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:06:06 GMT

Hello Jim and Todd

My hats of to both of you, for the level of professionalism that you have displayed in your timely response to my questions. Jim, I can honestly say that your timely description and the amount of information you have shared with me is more than I ever expected. Thanks for opening my eyes to the wealth of information that is available on this site and its a pleasure to know that I am part of a group of Professional Lotto Handicappers whose knowledge and expertise are readily... [ More ]

Reply #7

jim695 — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:59:27 GMT

Todd:

Thanks for catching that.

You're correct; wheels can't be copyrighted, but the text explaining how to use them can be, and that's the point I was trying to make. I've warned in previous threads against posting text verbatim from any book, lottery-related or otherwise, without including a credit to the original author and publisher. To do so would invite legal action against LotteryPost.com and its webmaster, and we would all suffer the resulting fallout.

Sorry for the confusion, b... [ More ]

Reply #6

Todd — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:14:43 GMT

Jim:

A minor correction to your post: I actually could post the GH wheels here, I just could not post the text from her book. You cannot copyright a series of numbers. (Perhaps you could make a case for a patent, but not a copyright.) I choose not to post her wheels because I don't think they're the best out there.

Reply #5

jim695 — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:57:03 GMT

Steve3656:

To be clear, lottery systems are proprietary, even though they can't be patented, so you won't find the actual systems on the forum.

However, many of the same methods used in those systems are available here. For example, Steve Player sells a Pick-3 system (Lucky 7, I think it's called) wherein you need only predict one number correctly out of the three digits to win a boxed bet. The system costs $36.00 to play and, if your selected number is drawn, you'll win $80.00. One to Wo... [ More ]

Reply #4

steve3656 — Tue, 14 Feb 2006 06:50:34 GMT

Jim

Thanks for taking the time to reply to my question, I appreciate your detailed response.Your email certainly cleared up a lot of questions I had regarding these 3 lotto vendors, first I had no idea that the systems sold by One to Won mall were available on this site for free, the only problem is to locate and identify them.

I have spent quite sometime on Steve Player website and I agree that his systems appear to be on a very professional level and therefore the high price tag, I a... [ More ]

Reply #3

jim695 — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 07:25:10 GMT

Steve3656:

Almost any method available from One to Won mall is available here for free. As for their calendars, you might as well buy quick-picks; you'll get similar results.

I've heard many people recommend Mr. Z's systems, but I've never seen or used one myself.

Of the three choices, I'd have to say that Steve Player is my favorite, but be warned: Steve Player (Opcom) systems generally don't work out-of-the-box. Lots of people have ordered products under their No Refunds policy o... [ More ]

Reply #2

steve3656 — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 05:38:29 GMT

Bob

So are you saying that you have never purchased any of his various systems? There seems to be 3 system sellers that seem to be quite reputable, Steve Player, One to Won and Mr Z, which of their methods would you recommend.

thanks

steve

Reply #1

BobP — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 05:32:18 GMT

No, none of the one's I've seen. Static systems like lotto calendars where a three step process sends you to the box of numbers to play for the day. Such a system can win no more often then game odds, what probabilty would suggest. BobP

one to won

steve3656 — Mon, 13 Feb 2006 03:52:28 GMT

Can anyone recommend any of the systems from One TO Won website