interest groups lining up to lobby on web gambling

Reply #23

Badger — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 02:04:21 GMT

Sure. I doubt many (if any) members of LP have to worry that they must transfer amounts of $10,000 or more from their online accounts to themselves. LOL ! But yeah, in these days of multi-billion dollar expenditures, the govt isn't going to worry about someone putting 2 grand in their savings account. Heck, the states looteries treat 500 bucks like it was non-existent if you win a straight Pick 3 for example. They don't want to be bothered with the paperwork, so they let the retailer cash it, wi... [ More ]

Reply #22

Coin Toss — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:30:52 GMT

Alex Jones is the fellow who made a video about 911 called Where's the plane?

He claims that there was no plane that hit the Pentagon, it was a rocket.

Where's the plane refers to apparently, well - where's the plane wreckage?

One of his websites is:

http://www.infowars.com

Reply #21

Rip Snorter — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 18:23:20 GMT

JAP69:

Strange, surreal, almost unbelievable stuff.

Possessing any written material that doesn't involve child porn or instructions for building a nuclear weapon in the basement, it would have seemed a generation ago, ain't something a person can be arrested for.

Brave new world.

I used to do a lot of wondering how the Weimar Republic went from being one of the most civilized nations in the world in 1932, to being the 3rd Reich from 1933 to 1945.

I still wonder, but I do my wonder... [ More ]

Reply #20

JAP69 — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 18:02:36 GMT

That story points to the fact if you oppose what the politicans or minority groups want they will take you thru the grinder on anything they can find on you.

They will make life rougher than you ever thought it would be.

Go to a meeting anywhere and voice your opposition you are on the crap list.

Reply #19

sfilippo — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 13:16:27 GMT

It's going to be a good day...

Reply #18

Rip Snorter — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 12:27:23 GMT

bizarrely urinating on the exterior of the property ignoring the two bathrooms located inside the building.

That's the part that really bothers me.

I don't like nobody peeing in my yard, other than me.

J

Reply #17

Rip Snorter — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 12:13:27 GMT

Jap69:

I subscribe to something called, Alex Jones Newsletter ..... don't recall subscribing, but it comes sometimes, gets through the spam-guard:

.

Man Raided By FBI, ATF, After Handing Out 'Subversive' Alex Jones Posted by: Paul Joseph Watson watson@prisonplanet.com onedeaddj

Thu Jul 6, 2006 11:23 am (PST)

Man Raided By FBI, ATF, Canadian Law Enforcement After Handing Out 'Subversive' Alex Jones Material

Gun seller questioned on militia, ownership of George Wash... [ More ]

Reply #16

LOTTOMIKE — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 12:03:09 GMT

possibly.

Reply #15

Rip Snorter — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 11:53:12 GMT

Maybe.

J

Reply #14

JAP69 — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 03:15:13 GMT

I think the majority interest groups might better start atttending more town meetings on up to meetings where higher office holders meet the populace.

Reply #13

JAP69 — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 03:11:55 GMT

Yes it is a puzzle.

The whole thing in a nutshell is we have gone from what the majority wants to what the minority interests want.

Reply #12

Rip Snorter — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 02:40:41 GMT

JAP69:

It's a puzzle, isn't it? Happened during our watch, too.

From the time you and I were kids until now isn't half a century. When we got it the country had a Constitution, had a gross national product, a single prison in every state, had exports instead of imports. Had something akin to a democracy.

Now we're handing it off to the next generation and it's got a stink a tumblebug would gag on.

Crazy, so much, so fast with so little intent on our parts.

J... [ More ]

Reply #11

JAP69 — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 02:27:56 GMT

American politicans have jumped the fence to being a dictatorial power trip.

Other countries have dictators as rulers.

Here in the U.S. we call them politicans.

Reply #10

Badger — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 02:10:35 GMT

David O. Stewart, an analyst and a lawyer who produced a study of online gambling for the American Gaming Association, a client of his firm, paraphrased an adage used by the Supreme Court in a campaign finance case, saying: Money, like water, will find its way. And I really think that applies to this. The money will find a way to get to the offshore sites.

This pretty much sums it up.

The most prominent model is Britain, which through revisions of its gambling laws is about to devise a... [ More ]

Reply #9

Rip Snorter — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 21:26:21 GMT

You can't blame those legislators for dragging their feet. They're in a no-win situation.

If they go one way, they infuriate the busybody holier than though know-what's-good-for-everyone-else crowd.

If they go the other way they lose no-telling-how-much in bribes and kickbacks.

But if they drag their feet the longer they do so the more nose-candy they get for those reminders of bought loyalty trips into the washroom to do a few lines while they try to make up their minds.

J... [ More ]

Reply #8

LOTTOMIKE — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:51:11 GMT

i'll be glad when they finally get something done with the whole matter.personally i like it the way it is now......

Reply #7

CalifDude — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:45:06 GMT

If you read the article about SWIFT you see that there is no red flag amount. Title 18 has an amount, but now we know that the CIA can monitor ALL money transfers into the United States.

I do think the U.S. can stop online gambling and/or tax it. Tax would make more sense to the people that make the laws

Reply #6

sfilippo — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:35:55 GMT

I've been wondering if 'overseas ISP's will be a way to shield online gaming from U.S. authorities. And if transferring winnings to the states, just keep it in increments of less than the red flag amount.

I don't think new U.S. law can stop online gambling.

Reply #5

CalifDude — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 07:55:58 GMT

I have read in this thread and others concerning this matter people saying that the government would not be able to do anything about internet gambling.

Those of us that use online betting services have found out that many banks and many credit cards will not allow transactions that have anything to do with gambling.

Title 18 of the U.S. Code requires all banks to report to the U.S. Government all transfers of $10,000 or more.

On top of all that, you probably know about SWIFT. If not... [ More ]

Reply #4

BobP — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 06:10:18 GMT

The only thing Democrats and Republicans stand for is election. I find it disgusting how our supposed freedoms turn to dust in the hand of our leaders . These people don't work for me, speak for me, or do anything to help me, yet they have the freaking nerve to think they have a say in what I choose to do that harms no one.

No matter what it is, someone is addicted to it. Does that mean we must all live in a child's world where the worse drug is chocolate milk? Stupid bastards are ruini... [ More ]

Reply #3

dvdiva — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 04:44:55 GMT

I love how Republicans call it values when it's really just lining their pockets.

Democrats rule WA state however and didn't even allow public discussion on the matter. I guess they, plus the WA state gaming commision got their bribes from tribal casinos in advance.

Reply #2

Rip Snorter — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:57:42 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by LOTTOMIKE on July 5, 2006 The odds of a bill's becoming law this year appear long. Beyond that, nearly everyone agrees that online betting may be unstoppable because of the reach of the Internet and the difficulty in regulating its activity.

hopefully the odds will always be long.....

With all those lobbyists in town the mirror-razorblade-rolled-up $100 bill business must be booming in the Capitol building washrooms.

Convenience stores are watching to s... [ More ]

Reply #1

LOTTOMIKE — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 19:23:07 GMT

The odds of a bill's becoming law this year appear long. Beyond that, nearly everyone agrees that online betting may be unstoppable because of the reach of the Internet and the difficulty in regulating its activity.

hopefully the odds will always be long.....

interest groups lining up to lobby on web gambling

LOTTOMIKE — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 11:49:38 GMT

WASHINGTON, July 3 While Internet gamblers lay down big money on World Cup soccer this summer, teams of lobbyists are facing off on Capitol Hill in a contest over whether the United States should choke off the growth of wagering on the Web.

Representative Jim Leach, Republican of Iowa, co-sponsor of bill to cut back Internet gambling.

Faced with bills to curb online betting, which attracts an estimated $12 billion a year in wagers worldwide, an array of interest groups like cas... [ More ]