The Tree of Knowledge--Cracking The Code

Reply #39

Rip Snorter — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:45:39 GMT

Actually, by focusing on half of what I said and ignoring the other half I think you're proving my belief that you're misunderstanding what people will believe.

There's plenty of evidencial history to give us an idea of what people will believe. Finding what they won't believe is considerably more difficult, though it usually falls into one of several catagories:

They (the majority) won't believe whatever is generally thought by their peers to be unbelievable,They won't believe what th... [ More ]

Reply #38

RJOh — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:31:13 GMT

The weathermen in my area predict by percent. They know from the past that weather conditions in Indiana traveling a certain direction and speed have produced certain weather conditions in Ohio a certain percent of the time. The closer the weather gets, the more accurate their predictions. Some people think they can predict the outcome of lottery drawings using a similar strategy.

Some day someone may win a lottery using that strategy, but I doubt if they will be anxious to share more than... [ More ]

Reply #37

KY Floyd — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:01:03 GMT

Actually, by focusing on half of what I said and ignoring the other half I think you're proving my belief that you're misunderstanding what people will believe. You're definitely showing that you've either misunderstood my point or you're simply ignoring it. If somebody claims that they've found that past drawings predict future drawings I agree that very few people will believe them, but that's not the same as claiming that you've refined the ability to use current conditions and the forces th... [ More ]

Reply #36

Rip Snorter — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:11:42 GMT

KYFloyd: I think you may have misinterpreted his post,

I replies: I might have misrepresented his post, or mightn't have. He'd have to be the one to determine that and tell us what he intended.

KYFloyd: or perhaps the entire nature of the world and exactly what peoplewill believe. I don't believe for an instant that anybody can successfully predict the outcome of pick 3 or pick 4 well enough to profit in the long run.

I replies: That was precisely my point.

Jack

Reply #35

KY Floyd — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:59:56 GMT

I think you may have misinterpreted his post, or perhaps the entire nature of the world and exactly what peoplewill believe. I don't believe for an instant that anybody can successfully predict the outcome of pick 3 or pick 4 well enough to profit in the long run. That doesn't mean I believe it's completely impossible, only that it's not possible now.

100 years ago the weather could only be predicted a short time before it happened. Today we can predict the weather as much as a few months in... [ More ]

Reply #34

KY Floyd — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:51:48 GMT

A natural law of sharing responsibly? What on earth would that be? If the secret was revealed it would spread unbelieveably fast, and if you simply share your winnings you'll either have to limit yourself to modest gifts or risk serious consequences. If a friend or relative gave me $100 bucks twice for no obvious reason I'd get pretty curious why they suddenly got so generous. If they gave me $250 three times I'd know there's something unusual going on. Do you really want to deal with the questi... [ More ]

Reply #33

luckieStarr — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:10:12 GMT

I know people who play $100.00 on the big 4...and no problems... they hit and play consistently and win...! How much more betting and winning would cause concern...who knows...people lose a lot of money playing...BIG!!...to offset...big wins

Reply #32

Rip Snorter — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 05:03:34 GMT

I agree they'd have no reason to stop there.

Jack

Reply #31

emilyg — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 04:47:51 GMT

as huppy suggested - pm's

Reply #30

Rip Snorter — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 03:47:08 GMT

Gasmeterguy

Interesting post. The only weak place in the reasoning I can find in it are a few pre-suppositions.

First being that someone would believe the code had been broken. That seems unlikely in the extreme. There's too much momentum, too much investment in there not being a code to be broken.

The investment's in every avenue of human endeavor. Finance, security, mass-culture, 'common sense', all the physical anchors humans use to reassure themselves the ground's solid bene... [ More ]

Reply #29

RJOh — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:07:53 GMT

GASMETERGUY,

You seem to suggest that understanding the nature of chaos or randomness enough to apply the knowledge to winning lotteries, a player would have to have the intellect of someone with a Ph.D in Mathematics or/and Physics. I couldn't see anyone with such knowledge being satisfied to just win a few pick4 games.

Reply #28

Fibonacci — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:02:57 GMT

Lol. Good catch...I thought so too....

Reply #27

pacattack05 — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:54:05 GMT

Let the wheels be.....

You never know when the time comes to movin' again....LOL

Reply #26

GASMETERGUY — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:46:01 GMT

I ain't saying yes and I ain't saying no.

But I bought a new home and I need help removing the wheels.

Reply #25

truecritic — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:37:21 GMT

GASMETERGUY

Do you have the Lotto Code? Are you going to share it with us?

***Careful now***

If you answer no and deny any knowlege of a formula, then I will know for SURE that you have it

Reply #24

RJOh — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:35:12 GMT

In Ohio, winners have 180 days after the drawing to file a claim for all its games.

Reply #23

GASMETERGUY — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:23:41 GMT

If one were to find a way to win at P4 mathematically (and from I am reading here that is what many of us are trying to accomplish) one would be eligible for the Noble Prize in Mathematics. Choas would no longer be choas; it would be understood and mathematically explained.

One would find him or herself unindated with Ph. D.'s in mathematics from Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Standford, Mississippi State University just to mention the better schools in this country. Research institutions from... [ More ]

Reply #22

mysticwomyn — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:49:32 GMT

As I recall you have one year to claim your winnings....

long enough to let them pile up into a tidy lump sum

Reply #21

RJOh — Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:06:18 GMT

There aren't that many top winners in the Pick4 games so traveling to different places to buy your winning tickets would be a waste of time if you showed up with the same ID every time you claimed your winnings, someone would probably figure you were the same person.

Reply #20

mysticwomyn — Sun, 23 Jul 2006 19:31:53 GMT

If I had that knowledge....I would put miliage and distance between my ticket purchases. Who knows ...if the commission sees a lot of straight winners in a certain radius or area they could eliminate all thos numbers in that area from ( at least ) the computer drawings....but if they were spread over the state...they couldn't tell

if it was only one person winning.

Take like a tiny state as Rhode Island....I'd travel all over to buy my numbers...not just stay in one area

Reply #19

huppy — Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:50:25 GMT

you would send the pms to whom ever you wanted,that is what was meant..peace

Reply #18

Rip Snorter — Sat, 22 Jul 2006 23:23:10 GMT

I'm sorry huppy, but I'd rather you didn't PM me. In fact, you'd be unable to do so if you tried.

J

Reply #17

huppy — Sat, 22 Jul 2006 23:15:23 GMT

with a private message..peace huppy

Reply #16

Rip Snorter — Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:21:42 GMT

bump

Reply #15

pumpi76 — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:25:45 GMT

It will be so wonderful, It will be the ultimate thing...Even though i wonder, when the lottery corporation sees that one man spent let's say 60 dollars on one number straight, what would they think.lol..But like if you say that they knew the pick4 codes of a couple of states, then he /she can diversify.lol...

I would spend 20 dollars on 1 number straight (since i know is going to play), and do so in coupld of states until i can guarantee me some 600,000 [after taxes], i will then heavily inves... [ More ]

Reply #14

RJOh — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:20:30 GMT

Fibonacci writes:

What if it were possible for someone to crack the code to a number of states pick 4? Please tell me since we're just dealing in hypotheticals and we know this cannot happen, what would you do if you had that knowledge?

Such knowledge would be worthless to me because I don't play pick4 games. I doubt if anyone had such knowledge ,they could afford to share it since pick4 games pay only $5000 for a $1 bet and having a few $5000 wins wouldn't make anyone rich. Besides the s... [ More ]

Reply #13

pumpi76 — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:24:07 GMT

Unfortunately, there is no way to crack pick4...UNless they change the machine and make it look like a cylindrical or squared gumball candy machine that is bad the numbers from the bottom (just a theory)...And that they make the balls a bit bigger...That's the only way i can think there will be a way to make money off of pick4..

But i think one of the benefits that there will be if there was a way to make money off of pick4, will be that bank robbing will slow down and scams, and certain type... [ More ]

Reply #12

pumpi76 — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:20:42 GMT

Fibonnaci, what do you mean by: ...Introduce measures to Unrandomize the drawings what do you mean by unrandomize ?

After careful observation, i've come to realize that men, they are just to full of trickery...Just to think of the way men trick women gives me examples...If i had such knowledges, I will share it with women only, and make sure women get the knowledge only, no men...Men will say one thing one day, and do the opposite the next...And my biggest question, one where you can test... [ More ]

Reply #11

Shane3 — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:45:42 GMT

Recently I stated that after winning I would post my system formula on the LP board.......now I am having seconds thoughts on doing so. First that may not be fair to MM, after all they are in the business of making money like any other cooperate entity. If the winning formula(more of a strategy) was misused....then MM would very likely go out of business, because they would not be generating enough income to sustain themselves....and other people would loose the opportunity to make something of

Reply #10

LOTTOMIKE — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:55:04 GMT

if you study certain states that have quads hit often and play those states online you can make a nice profit.this would only include about seven or eight states and no more than that.i haven't done it yet but if the online thing lives and doesn't get banned i plan to bet on the quads exclusively.i'll go ahead and tell you the states.look them up for 2005.......oregon,michgan,connecticut,indiana,kentucky,georgia,virginia and pennsylvania pick 4.

Reply #9

Fibonacci — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:54:11 GMT

I like that approach partially. But I believe in the natural law of sharing responsibly. I would share the benfits of the knowledge and make others who can be responsibole get a piece of the action, but I would keep the code to myself.

Which leads me to my next question: How do you go about sharing the benfits of the knowledge with others? Take LP. What would be the best way to ensure that LP members get some of the action without attracting too much attention, if a code were cracked

Reply #8

LOTTOMIKE — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:49:32 GMT

i would keep the info to myself and i wouldn't get greedy so i could continue to milk it as long as i possibly can.....

Reply #7

Fibonacci — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:32:46 GMT

So, Hypothetically speaking, if someone were to crack the code to a few states lotteries, they should not share that information less they spoil the fun for everyone--is that the consensus

Reply #6

BobP — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 05:24:18 GMT

The lottery won't care until it affects their bottom line, after which they will make the game parimutuel and go back to sleep. BobP

Reply #5

pacattack05 — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 04:19:38 GMT

I'd get rich overnight and buy myself a genie, ( even though we know it's impossible to own one) and make her give me just one wish. That's what I would do....

Reply #4

lottolaughs — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 04:13:16 GMT

Reply #3

LAVERNE MALONEY — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:50:36 GMT

Fibonacci:

That type of question has been asked many times here on the Lottery Post. Here are some of the links:

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/133832.htm

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/135366.htm

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/136829.htm

Reply #2

Rip Snorter — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:27:46 GMT

I think you're correct. It woud be dangerous knowledge.

There used to be a saying about the 1917 Winchester (WWI) .30-06. It kills on one end and maims on the other.

I suspect the knowledge you're describing would act similarly with the person who had it, but not carefully enough, and with the people whom it was passed onto with too little care.

There used to be a play about someone who found a Monkey God idol somewhere and the curse it pased on ...... Also some legend about a green... [ More ]

Reply #1

tntea — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:21:34 GMT

I wouldn't want to get rich over night.. I would enjoy just playing a few tickets collecting every day at different stores.. and continuing working as I do, so people would never know..

The Tree of Knowledge--Cracking The Code

Fibonacci — Thu, 20 Jul 2006 02:51:04 GMT

Caveat: We know for a fact that lotteries ( the ones we play and predict on here) are random and therefore (?) uncrackable. Everything said below should therefore be taken with a healthy dose of skepticism.

What if it were possible for someone to crack the code to a number of states pick 4?

Please tell me since we're just dealing in hypotheticals and we know this cannot happen, what would you do if you had that knowledge?

Don't you think if this were possible, that such knowledge in c... [ More ]