Determining a Coincidence or Possible Trend

Reply #14

time*treat — Sat, 23 Sep 2006 07:03:31 GMT

Years ago, I did a lot of work on p3/p4. I use those when I post examples because they seem much easier to follow. And I saved a lot of that old code. Some I've posted. Some ideas lend themselves to both p3/p4 lotto style games.

What I work on now is strictly p5 games.

I'm leaving those bogus ball games alone for now.

Reply #13

guesser — Sat, 23 Sep 2006 04:09:19 GMT

We need to decide if we are talking PB, or MM, or Pick 3, or what, because we all seem to be discussing odds of different games.

Reply #12

time*treat — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:57:04 GMT

At the other end, an event that occurs much less than its expected frequency can be used as a system or filter too. Here is why some have a love/hate with RNG games. Remember the CA Derby game story? https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/112810.htm

Good luck skill.

Reply #11

jordi marey — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:43:45 GMT

Finding a real mathematical advantage to the games will probably entail finding an event that constantly performs at a much higher percentage than that of its true probability .

Isolate and sequence digits in specific positions, in this case it s a mid position # seven (in a pick 3 game). Archival occurrences of this particular middle position #7 each time it was a winner after only one day, then wins again nine days later. And you get this coincidental? Random? Intermittent Trend? Go

Reply #10

guesser — Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:39:17 GMT

I do NOT track ball sets or machines either.

I apparently missed what you were getting at, so I will just drop it.

Reply #9

time*treat — Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:07:01 GMT

guesser,

We are in agreement that tracking every number will not let you predict with 100% accuracy.

We are also talking about two entirely different things.

Since I am not focusing on a specific number or machine (especially since some states don't use machines to pick their numbers) this set number machine number business does not apply to what I have said.

Reply #8

guesser — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:42:55 GMT

The only way you can do that is to track every single number since the last complete ballset change, and then after that, you have to track each number per machine and per set used.

Guess what ?

I've done it, and there is just not any conclusive evidence to be able to COUNT ON certain numbers hitting on a given day with 100% accuracy.

Meaning, for example, if you look at the numbers that come in when set #8 and machine #14 is used, you would think you would be able to see cert... [ More ]

Reply #7

time*treat — Sat, 16 Sep 2006 08:17:57 GMT

I'd look for a ratio first. Let's say you see a setup in the FL. numbers that happened 10 times last year. Run the pattern/system through the GA. numbers (or wherever) and see if you get (+/-)10 setups, too. Or run it through 2 years worth of numbers and see if it happens ~20 times.

If you get a fairly stable ratio across places/periods, I'd say you have something there. It is up to you to decide if the number of setups/period is something you want to keep.

Good luck and skill... [ More ]

Reply #6

guesser — Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:03:15 GMT

BTW - I select numbers NOT by hot/cold/due, I eliminate numbers using certain criteria, which leaves me with a 'pool' to choose from.

Reply #5

time*treat — Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:23:00 GMT

By not falling is, of course, how a number gets overdue in the first place. I was thinking more along the lines of groups of numbers (due or otherwise).

I haven't found any single pattern worth betting the house on, but I think there are ways to reduce the betting set. I only do p5. P3/p4 may require a different tack.

Reply #4

guesser — Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:05:42 GMT

But there is no real form of 'regularity' that is good enough to bet the house on.

Those of us that really study this see things, we see things that SHOULD happen, but they don't.

A lot of us knew WB #21 was long overdue to hit, and pretty soon it got to be so long overdue that we dropped it.

Same goes for WB #1 and WB #7 - waay overdue to hit, but we kinda shy away from then because they have not hit

'when they were due'. They will hit 'some day', but do we play them, or pla... [ More ]

Reply #3

time*treat — Sat, 09 Sep 2006 18:49:16 GMT

The exact how often will depend on the particulars of the trend(s). As long as there is some form of regularity, it can be useful. Pluto does not orbit the sun as often as Mercury, but you could say there is enough of a pattern to predict when the three objects will line up.

Reply #2

GASMETERGUY — Fri, 08 Sep 2006 04:57:13 GMT

Please define trend .

What are you seeing as a trend

Reply #1

guesser — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 05:49:35 GMT

It depends on the trend you are talking about ???????????

I see about 4 different trends happening at any given time, the problem is, these trends only last between 4-6, maybe 8 games AT MOST, so by the time you notice them, and then confirm them, they usually go in another direction.

I do not 'trend' individual numbers, and I do not 'track' individual numbers, I trend game scenarios, and the numbers 'fall into' those scenarios. What I mean is I don't 'play' a specific number based o... [ More ]

Determining a Coincidence or Possible Trend

jordi marey — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:58:18 GMT

In longer spurts of lottery wins , how often should this happen to consider this a trend or possible intermittent pattern and not just intermittent coincidence.