letting others borrow money

Reply #55

cps10 — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:31:05 GMT

I thought you might get a kick out of that one

Reply #54

tntea — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:30:28 GMT

Reply #53

cps10 — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:48:56 GMT

Thanks LM...errr...tntea...LOL

Reply #52

tntea — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:06:35 GMT

Tri-State3-4-13-7-7

Oh well it came out boxed.. Knew it was coming. It will come again... When? Where

Reply #51

TheTruth — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:42:42 GMT

just as tacky for some people to enjoy another person's good fortune and luck..

Reply #50

tntea — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 04:48:03 GMT

The laughing heads printed in my post that disappear had nothing to do with laughing at those who were taken by these people.

I was only showing that this is what you get from one of them who claim to have the perfect system following numbers around the world to get a hit, and they had to borrow money from another.

Like I mentioned once.. one should not throw their money across the states and expect some to come back.. find a better system than that.. 737 will come... Just put your quarte... [ More ]

Reply #49

cps10 — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:44:24 GMT

Rick

They always say great minds think alike!!

In all seriousness, though, common sense should ring a bell for you to forward test regardless. See my posts RE: South Carolina Midday and South Carolina Evening. The new method that I concocted tested well in backtesting. However, the proof is in the pudding in these threads in that they are working presently. That makes my wagering a lot more secure.

Reply #48

Rick G — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:33:07 GMT

Cps, that's funny...we said exactly the same thing and posted it at the same time.

Reply #47

cps10 — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:27:22 GMT

Floridian

You got it! You hit the nail on the head! That is why I have tried to conceive theories that sound like they would work. And instead of backtesting (I still do a little bit of it just to see if the concept is valid), I forward test. If the sucker is working for a month or so in that form of testing, then I've probably got something right. Of course, it is still gambling and nothing is guaranteed, however, I certainly would feel better about a system that forward tests rather than... [ More ]

Reply #46

Rick G — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:27:19 GMT

Floridian brings up an important point. We identify the patterns and winning scenarios by looking at past draws and backtesting. The true laboratory test comes from a good sample of future draws. We have to look forward to make money, not backward.

Reply #45

NeCapri68 — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:24:23 GMT

I had to learn the hard way. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. I don't know who said but I go by it now, as far as money goes.

Reply #44

tiggs95 — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:59:41 GMT

Loaning money to a friend is a good way to lose a friend..Give them money rather then loan them it..

Reply #43

floridian — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:39:25 GMT

Well done CPS10 and Rick G:

Thats why I appreciate your posts because you folks bring us back to reality.

Rick is totally correct that a profit is a profit. I can develop a system and back test it in several states to make it fit the outcome I want. You know the old saying about making numbers say what you want them to and then contend it was your expertise that made it happen. Creative math has been around forever. Heck look at the government. Print more money and claim the economy... [ More ]

Reply #42

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Reply #41

DoubleDown — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:37:26 GMT

whew !

I have never have seen posts just disappear.

Oh well...at least someone else saw it.

Yes Emily , it is very tacky...

DD

Reply #40

emilyg — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:10:53 GMT

you did not imagine it - very tacky to enjoy another person's misfortune.

Reply #39

JAP69 — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 02:53:58 GMT

DoubleDown

You did not imagine it.

Reply #38

DoubleDown — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 02:29:01 GMT

I didn't just throw that comment out for no reason- there was a post by someone which I should not name with 11 laughing heads on it regarding the people that lost money.

It has disappeared from the thread...

Please tell me I did not imagine it...

Reply #37

cps10 — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 01:48:10 GMT

Thank you Rick. I could get a number, but if I am losing my backside, it doesn't matter.

Reply #36

Rick G — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 01:43:23 GMT

Truer words have never been spoken. If it's not a profit it's not a profit.

Reply #35

cps10 — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 01:34:07 GMT

That is just it...you have to be state specific or else you will get blown out. If you want to play 30 states, fine. Make sure you damn well have 30 bankrolls - one for each. And you better play them individually and plan for them individually, or you are finished.

Sure I can give you a list of 30 numbers...and chances are one of them will hit in the U.S. somewhere. At which time I could post WOW---I told you!!! But without calling your shot a la the Mighty Babe Ruth, it doesn't mean squat. I... [ More ]

Reply #34

DoubleDown — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 01:26:48 GMT

Maybe it's me, but I don't find any humor in this story .

Reply #33

cps10 — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:28:41 GMT

I love this...people claimiing to have the winning way but end up broke. And then keep barking about it. Now it makes me wonder if all of the study that I did on this winning way was for naught. It's one thing to brag and win with your own stuff. It's another to NOT play your stuff and then lose with it because you didn't tell us about the secret loss potential it had. What a joke and a joke of a human being. Dispicable it is.

Reply #32

floridian — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 00:05:56 GMT

I think that is cool. At least if I gave you a donation I would know where it was going and would not expect to be paid back and would get a great picture of your SUV suitable for framing.

Floridian

Reply #31

lotterybraker — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:42:51 GMT

Well I dont want to borrow any money from anyone...having said that..if every member here at LP would like to donate One Dollar to the Lotterybrakers SUV Fund that is fine..LOL..send your donation to Lotterybraker..all proceeds will be used wisely and in return I will send you a nice picture of my new SUV..LOL..hopefully not a poor attempt at humor in a serious thread...

Reply #30

Rick G — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 18:51:24 GMT

Emily and Janet,

Throughout this conversation, the one thing that has bothered me the most is the fact that they chose to block you. That indicated that they had no intention of paying you back or even discussing it anymore.

They are thieves, pure and simple.

Reply #29

Tenaj — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 18:18:24 GMT

Me too Emily. It's like you get kicked in the ass over and over every thing they post dollars signs $$$$$$.LOL

Reply #28

emilyg — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 17:55:46 GMT

Not sure what bothered me more - the fact that i was out $2,000, the fact he kept gambling and bragging or the fact he blocked me.

Reply #27

konane — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 17:26:36 GMT

Over the years have had more than a few experiences with both loaning money and helping with no payback or reciprocation .... many more than the one I related to Tenaj in my PM to her yesterday.

Never ceases to amaze me how people can believe that a loan is a gift just because they choose to call it that even though terms were clear up front, somehow thinking the world owes them.

To both Em and Tenaj, I hope you both make it back a thousand times over and that others can watch your success... [ More ]

Reply #26

fast eddie — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 17:12:58 GMT

Needless to say, we all have stories like this. I hope the people here didn't give away too much to ungrateful moochers.

So true, I once helped a so-called friend in need by helping him buy a diamond engagement ring for his future bride, also a used car so he could get to work and lastly gave him an apartment with reduced rent in an a building my family owns. What did he do, he paid me a less than half the money back and after he stopped paying me he traded the used car that I bought for him... [ More ]

Reply #25

floridian — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 17:10:10 GMT

F E:

Excellent post. Until I here further anything they do post I will view as another con job.

Also, I wanted to respond to the previous post concerning the woman who had a gambling problem. I have learned over the years that if someone asks you for money to pay for something or they have a crisis and need bailing out -- Here what you do -- I need some $$ to pay medical bills. Have them send you the bill and you send a check to the payee to settle the debt. You will be surprised how m... [ More ]

Reply #24

justxploring — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 16:52:33 GMT

I just posted my comment on Tenaj's blog. I want to add that this has happened to me several times in life. So when you give money, think of it as a gift and not a loan and then you'll have no expectations. I rarely lend money to anyone. The other day I picked up lunch for a coworker who was stuck in the office. She insisted on paying me, so I took her money. However, I would have considered it a treat had she not stuffed the bills into my pocketbook. Did I expect her to offer? Of course! I... [ More ]

Reply #23

fast eddie — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 16:44:42 GMT

I don't see saleo paleo and laverne maloney posting a reply saying that these accusations aren't true. So I believe their saying the don't have to justify their actions not only to the people they borrowed the money from but also their fellow L.P. members. I believe Todd is probably disgusted by these revelations but it is us who should take action. We should block those members and not respond to any of their posts till we hear different.

Reply #22

st.germain — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 16:33:03 GMT

I'm totally flabberghasted that that had happened to you both. That should teach us all a lesson. But do we ever learn.....for instance:

I had a best buddy in grade school and high school...we haven't seen each other in 36 years. I promised to visit my friend in Las Vegas where he is a manager in one of the gambling establishments there. Prior to going there to visit ...his new wife , who I never met, had e-mailed me and said that she lost the 500 dollars that she had and was supposed to... [ More ]

Reply #21

floridian — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 16:22:28 GMT

It could not have been a true friendship. Maybe a one way friendship.

Good friends just don't do that to each other for whatever reason.

Anyone who welches on a bet or refuses to pay back a loan is a bottom feeder pure and simple.

On this thread, we have all been dancing around the true defination of this behavior. It is nothing more than stealing. You can call it what you want but anyone who takes money from someone else with a smile, a promise, and a glad hand with no intention of... [ More ]

Reply #20

tntea — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:51:32 GMT

One way we get rid of the beggars that come around the shop is to loan them money.. That way we never see them again.. It is good riddence

Reply #19

kandi44 — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:07:18 GMT

it is sad to know that friendship might be broken because of money if someone was kind enough to lend it the least you can do is pay it back you don't know when you might need that person again .and beside it is hard to find a true friend so i hope this reaches the person or persons heart and they will do the right thing.

Reply #18

tntea — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:23:29 GMT

I agree with you.

Once posted in my blog that the Map will get you trapped to spending more than you earn.. I received a lot of flack about this , even from Janet.

Everyone was partying thinking that LM was making big bucks with her system, and now to find out she was having to borrow money from the lady whose motto was take it to the bank .

She probably picked Janet because she thought Janet was loaded with her system. Since Janet took so much to the bank .. LM probably though... [ More ]

Reply #17

tntea — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:16:29 GMT

Been there and done that...

Reply #16

fja — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:52:36 GMT

I agree,,,Thats just wrong to borrow money and to not even be humbled by the fact that you owe someone.......and to keep posting that your system is the way to win,,,,,you not only took money from people but you also lead people down the wrong path..........

Give it back

Reply #15

LOTTOMIKE — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:18:03 GMT

i agree it is sad.when the good honest people need help it makes it hard on them to find it because nobody can be trusted anymore because of all the bad apples.i look at the state of the world and it really makes you wonder.when people have the goodness to let you borrow the least you can do is make the effort to start paying some back.

Reply #14

bubber58 — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:09:42 GMT

Those of you who got hurt just remember,, they will get their reward... this dont give you much comfort now, but in time,

people like this really make it hard for the honest people in our world, meaning that we dont trust as much anymore,,,

I'm Sorry

I like to meet the people I talk to here when possible, I have met a few here... and they know who they are...all I have met here been real good people..... THANKS

Reply #13

stavros — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:07:02 GMT

I am so sorry for both of you, Emily and Tenaj. You were kind enough to lend the money and then got taken for a ride! I wonder how many other people in their lives have had the same thing happen to them? And Laverne responds that she has to see how much money is left in her mother's government checks. This woman should not be gambling at all

Reply #12

four4me — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 09:20:33 GMT

I am floored to hear that these people done that. especially when one brags about how they have the winning way (MAP to the money) and make it seem that they are doing great playing numbers.

i never lend my money to others for gambling. and rarely for anything else for that matter. Sure i have helped people out but if they screw me even once i'm done with them. as far as loaning money.

i wish i had all the money i have given/loaned to people over the years and never got back. I could prob... [ More ]

Reply #11

Littleoldlady — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:38:08 GMT

I have let others borrow money but now I limit all amounts and don't let someone borrow if I am not familiar. I have lost several hundreds (thousands). I always find that when people borrow your money, they have a hard time getting YOUR MONEY out of their pocket! Also, family is just as bad as anyone else. In fact the largest loans I have made went to family members and no one has offered me a dime back. I loaned out $700, $500 and other smaller amounts. I let them know up front it was a L... [ More ]

Reply #10

LOTTOMIKE — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:46:06 GMT

if someone i didn't really care for ask to borrow i used to let them have 5 or 10 bucks.i knew after that they would never have the money to pay me back and they would quit coming around.and believe me i was glad they quit coming.i'm a generous person and nice too and i had a job one time where this guy used to want to ride with me on lunch hour because i'd go to mcdonalds.well i wouldn't be finished eating he would start asking you gonna eat that or you gonna eat all of this,can i have a cigare... [ More ]

Reply #9

Snakeyes — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:20:11 GMT

I used to loan others money but not anymore. I've been taken advantage of one too many times and it caused a lot of hurt feelings.

Tenaj; I feel bad for you. I don't know you that well, but your act of kindness was truly amazing. Unless you know these people on a personal and face-to-face level, it took a lot of trust to loan that money. Pretty cold for someone to that to you or anyone for that matter, in my opinion.

Karma Tenaj......what comes around....goes around. Best of luck to yo... [ More ]

Reply #8

emilyg — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:06:24 GMT

What Bob said!

we love you

Reply #7

floridian — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:59:44 GMT

Man! I am really disappointed by the folks exposed in this thread. I guess I am even more disappointed in people begging for money and then not wanting to pay it back. I suspect the money was used to gamble. I am sure that was not the reason given but the fact is money loaned for gambling is like flushing it down the toilet. This is the voice of experience talking here.

My life experience as I like to call it has shown me that you just can't loan money to someone for nothing. There has t... [ More ]

Reply #6

Rubi 311 — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:58:39 GMT

I'm shocked! I wish I could make it good for you Tenaj

Reply #5

emilyg — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:39:19 GMT

Hard lessons learned

Reply #4

Bluegrass — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:38:13 GMT

Janet, Thank you so very much ! Bob bg

Reply #3

LOTTOMIKE — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:35:48 GMT

who would've thought that saleo paleo and laverne maloney would do this.its pretty sad when regular posters like these hit the deadbeat list.it really shocked me.usually you would think it would be a new member swooping in to take advantage but to see this is truly scary.who can you trust??? this is a real eye opener......

Reply #2

Tenaj — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:28:59 GMT

I exposed the person in my blog Mike. I had no choice since she blocked all communication.

Reply #1

charh20 — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 03:44:48 GMT

Hi Lottomike,,

I read that in the blogs and my mouth fell open...

I can't believe that people would take advantage of others that way. I guess some people have no concious and all they are thinking about is how to get easy money from nice people.

Some people have the nerve,,,,,,,,getting to where you have to be on guard at all times everywhere. People are getting more corrupt.

But on the flip side of things, there are really good people out there (like emilyg and tenaj)...

If I... [ More ]

letting others borrow money

LOTTOMIKE — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 03:27:30 GMT

i hate the fact that emily and tenaj got taken for being nice and letting others borrow.i'm also glad that emily exposed sal so this person doesn't get anybody else.be careful when letting others borrow.