Am I missing something here...?!

Reply #19

beans — Fri, 12 Jan 2007 04:18:49 GMT

ok, lets think about this. single # 's , one # double ,two doubles, two #s consecutive,three #s consecutive,four #'s ,and there are a lot of combo's not listed. if you watch your state lotto you will see a pattern forming . what are the days that follow, straight or double, one double ,2 doubles, 3 doubles, 4 consecutive,(1 in 10,000) and what numbers to pick

Reply #18

truecritic — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:34:34 GMT

calabs

First, I believe that having more numbers in play out of the 10,000 does improve your odds of winning.

But, were you thinking something like this about the doubles....?

Picking 3 numbers is easier than picking 4 numbers, therefore it is easier to hit doubles than it is to hit singles.

Reply #17

KY Floyd — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:44:27 GMT

If I understand you correctly you're asking if the odds of winning it straight are different if you've played a double? When you play a 4 digit number there is a 1 in 10,000 chance that your 4 digit number will be drawn. It doesn't matter whether the pattern of the number is abcd, aabc, aaab or aaaa. If it's drawn then you win. A straight number can only be matched by that exact number. aabc and aacb are different numbers so playing aabc only gets a box win if the number drawn is aacb.

How ma... [ More ]

Reply #16

calabs — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:44:10 GMT

Thanks for the tip Delores!!! I'll have to try that out

Reply #15

calabs — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:37:45 GMT

OK Ricky - I'm beginning to see your point. Mathematically it makes sense to me. I guess I was just thinking along the lines of playing ONE double number st/bx, you had twice the chance of hitting it str8 compared to playing ONE single number st/bx. Does THAT makes sense, or is that still not correct? I understand about the 10000 numbers, so maybe my statement is not correct.

BTW - You're English is FAR better than some folks I know in the States!! Oh, on a separate note, I'm thinking... [ More ]

Reply #14

Konformthismfs — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:17:57 GMT

Better odds with the Single combo's

Reply #13

LAVERNE MALONEY — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:38:41 GMT

Pick 4 Winning Guidlines Using Pick 3 Doubles - Lottery Post

Paurths:

Calabs has already commented on the above post in which I speak about how to generate potential winning pick 4 doubles... etc., so there was no need in rehashing the details unless calabs had a specific question pertaining to my method.

Reply #12

JADELottery — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 02:44:23 GMT

Total possible combinations replacing A-D with 0-9 numbersTotal possible permutations of A-D lettersTotal possible Combos with letters A-D replaced with 0-9 number and A-D letters put through all possible permutations

AAAA10110

AAAB454180

AABB456270

ABBB454180

AABC120121440

ABBC120121440

ABCC120121440

ABCD210245040

TOTAL OF ALL =10000

Reply #11

paurths — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:56:27 GMT

It is pretty simple...,

the chance of someone hitting a straight double is lower than someone hitting a straight 24-way. (there are more 24-ways then there are doubles) But the chance of hitting a straight, any straight, stays the same, 1 in 10.000

Both, for box or straight, you always have to take into acount that there are 10.000 straight numbers! Think about it...

'tho There are 210 numbers that represent 24-ways, they represent 5040 real numbers (straight, that is)

Now, it might be... [ More ]

Reply #10

paurths — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:37:42 GMT

The indicator is the average skip.

Either the real-time average skip, either the mathematical average skip, or both... or the median skip, depends on what you like to look at...

Reply #9

paurths — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:36:41 GMT

Thank you for sharing this Laverne, it is very into detail...

Reply #8

delores247 — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:17:42 GMT

Calabs don't forget the series numbers for the pick4,They will sometime predict what is coming

This week's pick 4 series

2172 2182 2192 2202 2212 2222 2232 goodluck!

Instructions:you can keep or drop the last digit and add the most due digit for your state ,it works

Reply #7

Surge — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:41:27 GMT

I tested a P4 system using even numbers +1/odd numbers +0. After reading this thread I checked what the numbers did last month using the doubles only.

odds +0:

0199 0399 0599 0799 1399 1599 1799 3599 3799 5799

0177 0377 0577 0779 1377 1577 1779 3577 3779 5779

0155 0355 0557 0559 1355 1557 1559 3557 3559 5579

0133 0335 0337 0339 1335 1337 1339 3357 3359 3379

0113 0115 0117 0119 1135 1137 1139 1157 1159 1179

0013 0015 0017 0019 0035 0057 0059 0079 0037 0039

evens... [ More ]

Reply #6

calabs — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:35:26 GMT

Thank you badger, Ricky, and Laverne for your comments.

Ricky - While your numbers make sense, I'm not sure that they take into account that you have a 2X better chance of hitting a str8 double since there are only 12 permutations, and 24 permutations for a single, despite the fact that there are more singles than doubles. So I would venture to say that you have a better chance at hitting a straight double compared to a single..... If I play a few P4 numbers in a state, I play them st/bx.... [ More ]

Reply #5

Rubi 311 — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:30:58 GMT

Playing doubles make a lot of sense Calabs, but what are the indicators that a double is coming

Reply #4

LAVERNE MALONEY — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:23:11 GMT

calabs writes: SO - is there a reason why we don't just play doubles all the time?

$$$$$$$$$$

BINGO calabs

Reply #3

Badger — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:06:22 GMT

Well I see what you are saying. I kind of was figuring the same way he did. But then if I play P4 I rarely play straight. It's tough enough to hit a box in that game. Thanks Ricky.

Reply #2

paurths — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:11:35 GMT

If you play straight, then you don't have a better chance of hitting a double then hitting a single, since there are 720 more 24-ways then there are 12-ways. And payouts are the same for each and every number.

For box plays, it's a whole different matter, since there are 210 24-way numbers and 360 12-way numbers, so for boxed plays, comparing payouts, i'd play doubles (real time av. skip is around 2.17 draws) instead of singles (real time av. skip is around 1.85 draws

Reply #1

Badger — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 01:06:56 GMT

Yeah, pretty close. SIngles make up 50.4% of the straights, and doubles make up 43.2%. If you are playing straights, you only give up that 7%, so I, at least, follow your reasoning.

Am I missing something here...?!

calabs — Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:00:32 GMT

Please check my numbers for P4 combos to see if I've got this right!

Possible quad combos = 10 (duh!)

Possible triple combos = 360

Possible double/double combos = 270

Possible double combos = 4320

Possible single combos = 5040

OK, to the point at hand.... doubles fall about 43% of the time based on the stats. and singles about 50%. SO - is there a reason why we don't just play doubles all the time? Unless someone has a doubles warning (or a singles warning for that matt... [ More ]