Lucky Lotto Picks System by "Pete Egeler"

Reply #125

Doc Tor — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:14:18 GMT

Summertime,

Can you sent me your system that you figure with a #2 pencil, and a sheet of paper.

Thanks,

Doc Tor

Reply #124

Doc Tor — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:50:50 GMT

What was about that you were offering to trade for Petes Lucky Lotto System.

Doc Tor

Reply #123

Summertime — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:00:01 GMT

Yeah, those systems, some of them are very expensive. It has been said that there is a sucker born every minute, I mean, I guess some people think if they spend a lot on a system that it can beat the odds that much more. Well, nobody has been able to beat the odds on a consistent/profitable basis yet, but there is no shortage of people who are willing to waste money trying.

Reply #122

Coin Toss — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:55:55 GMT

Summertime

Pete has a website, a forum, and a blog to promote his expensive system, and this thread has received more attention than all three of them put together.

Try looking through a Steve Player catalog for expensive systems.

Reply #121

Summertime — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:41:58 GMT

This thread is without a doubt the most attention Pete will ever get in one fell swoop.

This thread will serve as a determining factor information wise for potential customers of Pete's system the world over.

Pete has a website, a forum, and a blog to promote his expensive system, and this thread has received more attention than all three of them put together.

What may stand out in the minds of information seekers is the fact that Pete has abandoned this thread instead of using it to... [ More ]

Reply #120

reddog — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:59:06 GMT

All I know is this thread has been some good free publicity for Pete's system, good or bad.

Reply #119

RJOh — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:42:25 GMT

All the lottery systems I've ever seen for sale have similarities so it's likely someone mentioned something that's in his system without knowing it. If Pete's system was unique it probably couldn't be explained in a few sentences.

Reply #118

Stack47 — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:20:08 GMT

There is enough information on Lottery Post where anybody could create a system, call it their own, and sell it. If I revealed or blurted out parts of Pete's method, it's only because of an observation I made over 25 years ago using the SNS method. I have a copy of Professor Jones' book I bought for $4.95 that has the same observation.

Somebody was probably selling a system the day before the first state had its first pick-3 drawing and people were talking about their own systems the next day... [ More ]

Reply #117

Summertime — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:35:00 GMT

It's a two way street, the crooks sending the bad checks are no better than the con man selling the system.

Reply #116

Coin Toss — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:40:48 GMT

So that was you in the Keno Lounge at the Tropicana in Vegas!

This thread kind of reminds me of something in a course I took on mail order businesses - selling information - of everything out there you could sell in the mail, people ordering gambling systems are the most likely to send you a bad check - and the reason for that was they not only want to beat the house, they want to beat you out of the price for the info., too.

Reply #115

justxploring — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:26:23 GMT

Reading this thread is upsetting my system. LOL!! Time to get out the Pepto.

Anyone want a cheap system? Here's mine. Close your eyes, start clucking like a chicken, skip in a circle, yell Lord O Mighty save me please, fall to your knees and think of the first 6 numbers that come to mind.

Donations welcome.

Reply #114

Summertime — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:46:18 GMT

There is enough info in this thread to figure out Pete's system. That is unless Pete has altered his blog to prevent people from seeing parts of his blog that reveal parts of his system. If it's still there, a few other people in this thread blurted out the other parts. It's all in this thread.

Regards, Jack

Reply #113

konane — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:50:46 GMT

If you did a recent searh depending on how far you have history set in your browser you might be able to go back through daily internet activity and find it. That's how I find stuff I've failed to bookmark but want later.

Reply #112

Summertime — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:31:45 GMT

The one power you have is to take your winnings AND WALK AWAY!

Yeah, assuming there are any winnings to speak of. Slots offer some of the worst odds in the casino, and account for most of it's earnings.

Reply #111

BobP — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:38:26 GMT

I did find it interesting how you compared a years worth of lottery backtesting with 10 plays on a slot machine, and ironicly both lottery, and slot machines are net losers (and if we are allowed to be perfectly honest about it, sucker bets).

With lottery you have the luxury of testing as long as you like, it costs nothing to play on paper as if you had played. While past results doesn't guarantee future success, what else do we have to go on?

With slots, you pay to test so you need t... [ More ]

Reply #110

Stack47 — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:32:20 GMT

this is my first real exposure to a group of people who think that they can make a profit playing the family of games that offer the worst odds on planet earth (lottery).

According to you those games offer the worst odds on the planet but apparently the two guys I know who won $10 million a piece and another guy that won $100,000 didn't know that. If you need to win a jackpot to make a profit, I agree with you but jackpot games offer secondary prizes and with a good playing strategy those sm... [ More ]

Reply #109

Summertime — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:16:22 GMT

I would like to thank you for being honest in you test results. I had concluded similar backtesting for Tennessee, California, Texas, and had similar results. I believe that a system can seem to have merit based on how much luck and coincidence play into the produced numbers hitting often for short periods of time, and that similar results can occur with random picks as well. They call it a winning streak, or good luck or what have you, but it does occur. However, it doesn't happen enough to eve... [ More ]

Reply #108

BobP — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:13:14 GMT

First of all to wheel 6 digits all different (no doubles or triples) takes 20 numbers, not 18.

Mr. Z's Scientific Number Selector has nothing to do with Pete's system outside of both using frequency to sort the digits. The SNS looked at numbers formed across the columns as well as down the columns and criss-cross. After the draw you could almost always draw a oval around the winning number, but finding it before hand was a real challenge.

Visiting Washington State to play their Pick... [ More ]

Reply #107

Summertime — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:21:21 GMT

Whoa stack, you kinda took off in a whole other direction with this post, lol. I liked your previous post. If you think about it, I am not complianing about Pete's system, I am disscussing it, ya know.

I am not stranger to making money with gambling games. I am also no stranger to the internet, or posting on forums, but this is my first real exposure to a group of people who think that they can make a profit playing the family of games that offer the worst odds on planet earth (lottery).... [ More ]

Reply #106

Stack47 — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:48:21 GMT

When I said Millions of people play Pick-3 games and there are millions of ideas of how to choose 3 digit numbers so I seriously doubt that any one method could be unique it means it's likely that hundreds or thousands of people can come up with the same original idea.

To know for sure whether this can beat the pick3 odds

Florida pays $40 on a 50 cent box so if you play ten boxes and hit, you're getting 7 to 1 on your $5 wager. Or you could make the same bet online with higher payouts... [ More ]

Reply #105

Summertime — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:31:30 GMT

...and there you have it ladies and gentlemen, the missing component of Pete's system, and verification that it is not an original idea.

To know for sure whether this can beat the pick3 odds, just ask yourself this: If this could beat pick3 for a longterm profit, then surely it would of spread like wildfire (with people telling their friends, and family) and it would be common knowledge that this is a way to beat the lottery at a profit. But, no, the lottery is in no danger of being beat, a... [ More ]

Reply #104

Stack47 — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:16:51 GMT

I bought the Scientific Number Selector from Mr. Z over 25 years ago. For 10 bucks I got the SNS, the Lucky Larry system, and a two months subscription to Z's weekly tip sheet that included Ohio and New York results. Call it beginners luck, but I did catch a straight hit within 3 weeks of the purchase.

The SNS method was to get the digit frequency from the previous week and arrange them from Hot (3 or more hits), Neutral (2 hits), and Cold (1 or 0 hits). The draws were Monday to Saturday so e... [ More ]

Reply #103

Summertime — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:18:02 GMT

If it could be proven that this system was a long term winner, Pete would of done so already, nice try.

BTW, nice detective work on Oregon not having a pick3 three game. I commute to Washington 5-6 days a week.

Reply #102

Omniscient — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:58:08 GMT

It's not so much believing in systems that matters, but rather, past trends and patterns. For as long as I've been here posting, I've seen alot of people posting new systems, and I'm guilty to be one of them on a few occasions. I've come to see the light now and know there is no 'sure' thing. I do believe that by following past numbers over a course of a few days to a week or so, we can come up with some hot and cold numbers and then wheel them. From what I read once in a system I bought a long... [ More ]

Reply #101

BobP — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:50:54 GMT

So now you're a crusader here to protect the innocent from the evils of lottery system salesmen.

In a way I'm kinda glad you never bought the system from Pete because it's a sure bet you wouldn't have followed the instructions.

If you did see the system, what were the results of your test? Oh, that's right, Oregon doesn't have a Pick-3 game.

Have you learned anything about playing online, or are you going to continue to ignore what gets in the way of making your points?

Well I to... [ More ]

Reply #100

Summertime — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:47:36 GMT

The same could be said for people trying to come up with a system to beat a lottery game, but of course, that horse was dead long before we were born, and will continue to be beaten long after we are dead.

Regards, Jack.

Reply #99

Summertime — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:35:06 GMT

D_A,

Consider that when an internet search is made about Pete's system this thread comes up as one of the top search results. When you take this into consideration it then becomes obvious that this thread is for the benefit of a much broader range of people than just the registered members of this forum. This thread is a discussion of a system, for the benefit of thinking individuals, those seeking more information about this system (potential customers), and those who already own the system... [ More ]

Reply #98

Raven62 — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:17:51 GMT

The horse has been beaten to death, and yet the beating continues

Reply #97

Summertime — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:06:41 GMT

Your story has changed a lot over these last few weeks. Based on what has been edited out at Pete's system forum, first about a month ago you had one small win, then you went on a 2+ week losing streak and were complaining about it there. Since then however, all of those posts including Pete's attempts to smooth the waters have been edited out, and you have since changed your story about the preformance of the system and your own personal experience with it for the better as a direct result o... [ More ]

Reply #96

Dead_Aim — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:09:42 GMT

Jack, buddy,

You need to unwind and relax a little before you pop a spring or something. We appreciate the fact you think you are protecting us from the evils of the world and you have spent all of your 34 post insuring that we are well informed that the lottery monsters are out to get us, but and this will shock you, most of us are not the naive sacks of gullible you seem to think we are.

I have no doubt you are trying to help, but you keep going over and over the same thing. At this po... [ More ]

Reply #95

Rakster — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:23:08 GMT

You asked this initial question

Has anyone here had any experience with the Lucky Lotto Picks System by Pete Egeler (Pegeler is his username here) that he is selling for $27 a pop?

I just told you of my experience with it and you freak... what more do you want

Reply #94

Rakster — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:49:28 GMT

Well Jack you know what... save your money... invest in A.N.G. Direct...

DON T BUY THET SYSTEM AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT!!

Geez, you remind me of my family... if you can't complain about something you ain't happy

Reply #93

Summertime — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:12:31 GMT

CORRECTION: In my post directly avove I stated in error that Pete reworded his lottery system advertisment website. The turn the tables claim is still infact there.

However, the turn the tables claim has been slightly altered from the way it originally appeared on the site in the past. Doing a search on a website archive site I have found that the way the claim use to appear was as follows:

What I have been able to do, and so can you, is turn the tables in MY favor, not the state's... [ More ]

Reply #92

Summertime — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:42:41 GMT

Just two weeks ago you were at Pete's forum complaining how your system produced numbers hadn't hit for over two weeks, and how it was taking back your first weeks winnings. You even used the angry emoticon at the end of your post. Pete responed to you saying that that weeks numbers (3rd week) hadn't fully played out yet, and how it's not over til the fat lady sings , and all that.

Of course that has all been edited out since this thread was started, or shortly thereafter (infact there may... [ More ]

Reply #91

Rakster — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:25:58 GMT

2 straights (188 and 112) this week and a box hit on 143... they called 134.

It hasn't let me down yet.

Reply #90

tntea — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:21:28 GMT

Did someone make some pudding? Is someone going to make some Pudding? Just curious

Reply #89

Rakster — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:02:20 GMT

hahahaha that was too funny....

Boy did that come out wrong...lol

I got a $1000 sent back to me here at home...lol

Where I am originally from, you could probably buy a home for $1000 hahahaha

Reply #88

reddog — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:27:57 GMT

You bought a home for $ 1000 ? I think that is a greater accomplishment than winning the pick3 twice in one week.

Reply #87

Rakster — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:38:09 GMT

Thanks RJ...

My investment got me a $1000 home and still playing with the $300 I left there to use...lol

Its not a get rich scheme but it works.

Reply #86

RJOh — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:32:00 GMT

Congratulations, sounds like you're making money playing the pick3 games.

I'm waiting for someone to come up a system that will do the same for the the pick5 and jackpot games players. Good luck and continued success to you.

Reply #85

Rakster — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:02:08 GMT

I got his system and have had it for a month or two now. I told him if i hit his predicted numbers twice in one week I would buy it....It has hit every week I played it. He is correct in saying it will hit on average once or twice in a week as it has done this for me week in and week out. One week I hit 5 times.... 2 straights and 5 boxes (played the straights in box format too)

Yes, its a bit pricey, but it works... what more do you guys want? Oh I know... you want it for free....

Reply #84

RJOh — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:38:01 GMT

BobP,

I never claimed I could write any program (better or worst) for a system I didn't know but as I said I'm capable of writing a program that can do anything I can do with paper and pencil that will do it faster. It wouldn't be better just faster.

I went to the website where Pete gets his e-mail after he PM me with his e-mail address, until then I didn't know how to find it.

I assume Pete PM me to get my attention and it did get me to check his website, maybe he made the same offer... [ More ]

Reply #83

BobP — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:49:26 GMT

RJOh Pete recently PM me to offer a watered down version of his paper and pencil system for free if I would request it by e-mail. I didn't response because:

1. I'm not a pick3 player.

2. I didn't buy a computer to use paper and pencil to pick my lottery number.

3. I'm capable of writing a program that can do anything I can do with paper and pencil and do it faster.

I think Pete was more interested in getting an e-mail address than selling his paper and pencil system because on his we... [ More ]

Reply #82

Dead_Aim — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:11:05 GMT

Reply #81

happysmiler — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:56:50 GMT

Yes , I agree with you . LOL ,

Reply #80

emilyg — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:33:30 GMT

What a soap-opera.

Reply #79

Summertime — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:01:32 GMT

My prediction came true. I posted the above on 11/1/07, and on 11/04/07 195 (915 above) hit a 6-way box on the CA lottery's mid day pick 3 game called daily 3 , it hit for $39.

I didn't use pete's system, or any other system to do this (Ultra Random Prediction System (c) was a joke BTW). Anyone can do this, it is totally random, and this is a trick systems dealers use to hype people up to buy their system, it doesn't prove that a their system can work.

Anyone can WIN doing this, but... [ More ]

Reply #78

RJOh — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:41:17 GMT

Jack,

You are probably over estimating the amount of attention Pete is getting because of this thread. Pete recently PM me to offer a watered down version of his paper and pencil system for free if I would request it by e-mail. I didn't response because:

1. I'm not a pick3 player.

2. I didn't buy a computer to use paper and pencil to pick my lottery number.

3. I'm capable of writing a program that can do anything I can do with paper and pencil and do it faster.

I think Pete was mo... [ More ]

Reply #77

Summertime — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:26:18 GMT

Wow Pete, your getting all this attention, many thousands of eyes are focused on you and your system, and all you can seem to talk about is me. This is your chance for you to show the world how great your system is, and you act like you have something to hide. Your on the defensive, and acting gun-shy when you should be proudly proclaiming all of the great aspects of your system, and backing up your claims with proof as to seal within the minds of the people absolute conviction that your system

Reply #76

truecritic — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:41:57 GMT

Summertime

I don't see you aggressively going after the many other lottery system sellers? Say for example, Gail Howard. Do you think she would step up and prove to you that any of her systems turn a profit

Reply #75

BobP — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:11:16 GMT

What part of Stack47's post didn't you understand?

As for Pete proving his system works, he is posting ten 3 digit combination predictions, the predictions are unique to each state, and he is getting hits so it does have credibility. It looks like he is wheeling 5 digits and playing the 10 combination it produces but it will probably cost us $27 if we want to discuss how the digits are chosen with Pete.

10 unique numbers per state is not broadcasting 10 numbers across 70 draws where the... [ More ]

Reply #74

pegeler — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:21:53 GMT

Okay, these are my last comments on this issue.

1) Jack, you didn't need proof , I wasn't low-down, and people weren't mis-lead for playing the pick 3 lottery games, WHEN YOU HOPED TO TRADE IT .

2) When I declined, you went to work at once to blast me for not providing YOU with proof. Not only on this forum, but on several others.

3) As you continue to post, you continue to berate those that say or would assume that they might win playing the lotto.

4) The more you post,... [ More ]

Reply #73

Raven62 — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:31:16 GMT

It is when the asking is not done in a tactful manner.

Reply #72

Summertime — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:11:31 GMT

Anyone could pick ten different combos for all the different states and get hits over the course of a number of days, you don't need a system to do it, and it doesn't prove anything. The reason you will get the hits is because you are putting a huge net of numbers over a great many games and shooting for a 6-way box somewhere, somehow. Hust because you get a hit here or there doesn't mean that the thing is making money though because if you were to have had put money down on every game that was... [ More ]

Reply #71

Summertime — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:51:03 GMT

So asking for proof is an attack?

Ask: To seek an answer to.

Reply #70

Stack47 — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:15:33 GMT

Which part of most states pay $500 for a $1 bet on a straight Pick-3 number and a 6-way box pays 1/6 of $500 is outside the scope of the facts?

and the discussion of Pete's system

If you're talking about the Lucky Lotto Picks System, I'm guessing when most people read the name of that system, they thought it was for a Pick-6 Lotto or maybe a Pick-5 game. But the only discussion about Pete's system is when Firstborn said he boxed ten 3 digit combinations for 15 draws and 3 of them hit... [ More ]

Reply #69

Raven62 — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:19:15 GMT

No! He is wise to avoid his attackers.

Attack: To set upon with force; to bombard with hostile criticism.

Reply #68

Summertime — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:47:33 GMT

I would like to point out at this point that Pete has taken a seemingly apatheti, backseat position in this discussion, which is rather unfortunate considering this thread is dedicated to the system he claims to have invented.

It has been said that, silence is golden .

However, in this case what would appear to be golden is the chance for Pete come forth and apply validity to his claims and implications about his system. Think of it, would any system dealer with a lottery system that the... [ More ]

Reply #67

Summertime — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:42:59 GMT

A) I never made any demands, I made an offer at one point to trade information for information, Pete declined, I respected his decision and still do.

B) I do not want to trade Pete, I have his system, there is no need for any kind of trade. There is no need for me offer Pete any concrete information, I was nice enough to offer it at one point, he declined, it was his decision. I went on to acquire the workings of his system for free regardless. There is no bargain to speak of, and I am not d... [ More ]

Reply #66

truecritic — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:45:01 GMT

A) I have read this entire thread. The fact that you got a copy of Pete's system off the net doesn't change the demands you are making.

B) I think you missed my point, I'll try to clarify. You want to trade with Pete - you make all kinds of demands of Pete but you don't offer Pete any concrete information that your valuable information is real. You are not holding up your end of the bargain to the same standards that you are demanding from Pete.

No, not to us. You don't have to prove a... [ More ]

Reply #65

Summertime — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:37:38 GMT

What I posted are FACTS, everything that you replied with are outside of the scope of the facts that I have presented, as well as this thread, and the discussion of Pete's system.

Reply #64

Summertime — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:34:09 GMT

I am not selling my info. I have no reason to explain what I know with any of you. Pete is selling his system, and claims he doesn't have to prove that it works, but the truth is he can't because it doesn't, and therefore of course he is gonna have to come up with some excuse and hope everyone buys not only his excuse, but his system as well. He claims it is an original system. On his blog he reveals that it involves wheeling, and gives some clues as to other aspects of his system . Now ask y... [ More ]

Reply #63

BobP — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:27:49 GMT

Ah, overall odds: Like putting a straight bet on each of six possible all different combinations. Thanks. BobP

Reply #62

Stack47 — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:54:24 GMT

The Pick-3 odds for Straight are 1:1000 and Box are 1:210 or 1:220 if you include the Triples (1-1-1, 2-2-2, etc.)

A 6-way box is 6 bets, a 3-way box is 3 bets, and a triple is 1 bet. Divide the number of possible outcomes (1000) by the number of bets to get the odds.

Reply #61

Stack47 — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:40:34 GMT

Look on the back of any pick3 playslip to confirm 1:167 for a 6-way box w/3 different (unique) numbers.

Most lotteries pay $500 for a $1 bet on a straight win. A box bet allows you to bet on 3 or 6 straight numbers at a reduced cost so you divide the $500 by either 3 or 6. Those payoffs depend on the state; some pay $166 and $83 and some less. If you play a $3 or a $6 box you'll give up another $2, but some states offer a Wheel bet for the same price and the payoff is $500.

This is a los... [ More ]

Reply #60

truecritic — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:24:39 GMT

I see nothing wrong with making trades instead of exchanging cash.

However, Summertime, I do see something wrong with your thinking.

You are asking for all kinds of proof of Pete's system. Yet you can't offer any details of what you will provide - except that it can make a person rich or at least well off.

Sounds just like the 1001 get rich quick offers on the net. I wouldn't trade so much as a postage stamp - because I don't know whether you are telling the truth or not.

Not a... [ More ]

Reply #59

Summertime — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:52:12 GMT

Box wager (6-way) using 3 unique numbers for a pick 3 game. Odds = 1:167

Which means when you make this bet you will win on average this many times:

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out of this many times:

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This is a losing bet, it will ALWAYS be a longterm loser, and no system can

Reply #58

BobP — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:12:51 GMT

Where are you pulling these 1:167 odds from? The Pick-3 odds for Straight are 1:1000 and Box are 1:210 or 1:220 if you include the Triples (1-1-1, 2-2-2, etc.) There are odds for All Different and Doubles purely based on their representation in the total population.

There are also system odds like a 2if3in10digit8number wheel guarantees when all different digits are drawn at least one number will have 2 of the winning digits which leaves 8 remaining digits to occupy the third position maki... [ More ]

Reply #57

Summertime — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:16:53 GMT

Chris, I know you wanna defend Pete and his system. Your intentions are genuine, but Pete can speak for himself. I have already explained that it was the principle of the thing and all that good stuff. If you really think that pete's system, or any other system whether you have to pay someone for it of not can overcome 1:167 odds, then I certainly do not expect you to understand the ethical aspects of peddling lottery sysems. I am glad that you are having some good luck playing the lottery, but... [ More ]

Reply #56

FirstBorn — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:15:20 GMT

Hi Jack,

Re: Your money making idea.

OK, If You say so... Wish you the best of luck with it. ;)

Re: Pete;

Actually, I disagree with you about your Pete Slam and taking advantage of other people for his own gain.

As I've said already, I've just started with his program and have won 3 times already.

Pete isn't the type to take advantage of other people like how you're describing.

Seriously, man, you've got Pete all wrong.

It seems that you've got something against Pete 'ca... [ More ]

Reply #55

Summertime — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:21:15 GMT

FB, My information IS that valuable. I am not selling what I know, nobody is. Mostly if the information is passed on it is to close friends and family, not strangers. Although people knowing doesn't change the outcome this way or that way. It is the the net result of multi-generational insite/wisdom/understanding/experience. Simply put it is something that happened in my Grandfather's (RIP) day. Something that he missed out on because he was not in the know until after the fact. He told me abou... [ More ]

Reply #54

psykomo — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:58:17 GMT

THANKsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssPete^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You need to tell sum of the yahwho's to put-up $27 or shut-up!!!

I have never heard of U til these JAWBONE's brought it to ALL my

attention here on the Lottery Post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

LOL in this and FUTURE software development and a JACKPOT(maby)

PSYKOMO

Reply #53

FirstBorn — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:34:44 GMT

Hi Jack,

Thanks for continuing your discussion with Pete.

I have a Q for You;

IF Your so called multi-million dolloar ROI investment information is THAT Valuable,

then WHY give it away for a Lottery System that you deem something that I can't profit from.

You can't tell Us that it was just to satisfy my curiosity can you and make Us actually BELIEVE you, can Ya?

I'll tell ya what, IF your information is SO VALUABLE, Why don't you PM Me and maybe WE can

trade info.... [ More ]

Reply #52

Summertime — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:19:53 GMT

Pete,

You are right, you do not have to prove anything to anyone. If you are not comfortable proving that your system can do the things you say it can do then simply don't. It is much easier to avoid than to face head on, and even if you wanted to, chances are great that you couldn't anyway.

Having said that I will deal with this post according to what you have presented.

#1 - So the implication is that your system never goes longer than one week without winning.

This implicati... [ More ]

Reply #51

pegeler — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:42:09 GMT

Jack,

#1 - I don't have to prove anything to anyone. I post predictions here, and you know where else. Just as it says on my website, sometimes you'll go a whole week with no wins. The next week you may have anywhere from 1-4 hits. You never know. That's why they call it gambling.

#2 - No, my way of picking the numbers does not have anything to do with any older system that's been repacked . I started working on it in early spring, on my own, by myself, without looking at anyone els... [ More ]

Reply #50

Summertime — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:04:07 GMT

Lotta people posting in this thread, but where is Pete? Pete, can you please attempt to prove me wrong here in this thread. Can you prove that your system can beat the odds and make the customer a long term profit? Can you provide hard proof that you can turn the tables on odds like 1:167? If you can (as you claim) on average double lottery investment in a week, then that would mean most weeks out of the year you can make a decent profit playing pick three. Can you prove it? If you can prove a... [ More ]

Reply #49

Summertime — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:45:58 GMT

Frustrating isn't it? There is no way to gain an edge in any lottery game. Whether the ticket costs 1 dollar or 1 penny it doesn't matter, THE ODDS DON'T CHANGE!! There is no system on earth short of being able to see into the future that is going to change the facts, and I am dealing in facts, not fantasy. A lottery system is nothing more than a pre-determined way of picking numbers, and placing bets. The best systems are free and not far from common sense. However, there is no system that ca... [ More ]

Reply #48

RJOh — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:56:11 GMT

It's unusual for any lottery system I've ever seen to pick the same group of combinations for everyone who uses it. Most pick a group of combinations within certain parameters for each drawing which are different for each user, that way one of its users in more likely to win something every day.

I'm not familiar with systems specifically designed for pick3 games since I usually play pick5 and jackpot style games but I have tried LottoPro, Lotto Buster and LottoMaster which can also be used... [ More ]

Reply #47

FirstBorn — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:37:39 GMT

Hi RJOh,

Thanks for clarifying.

If the predictions are the system's predictions and not yours then everyone who uses the system must get the same results. If you ever win big then everyone who's playing the same game using that system will share the prize with you.

Didn't want to sound lost, but I really didn't understand where You were getting at with your post.

Yes, the Pick3 here in Florida are Fixed amounts, so it wouldn't be like having to share the prize with someone else.... [ More ]

Reply #46

RJOh — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:24:16 GMT

Ooop!

I was thinking this system was for games with big jackpots so my statement wouldn't apply since pick3 and pick4 payouts are fixed amounts. However, if you ever got a straight hit then everyone who used this system in the same game would get one too and that would get some attention. That happened with PowerBall when a lot of players got their numbers from fortune cookies that had the same numbers but as far as I know it has never happened with a pick3 or pick4 game.

Reply #45

FirstBorn — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:24:48 GMT

Hi stack47,

Thanks for your additional comments.

I'll bet you didn't scan and make copies of all the tickets you bought; AKA LOSING lottery tickets.

Yes, you are absolutely, without a doubt, 1000% correct.

No, I did NOT scan the LOSING tickets.

Why didn't *I* think of that?

Basically, scanning the WINNING Tickets does show that I

wasn't just 'playing on paper' and actually BET on the numbers.

why not post the numbers this system picks for a couple of weeks on the Predictions p... [ More ]

Reply #44

Stack47 — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:32:28 GMT

they play on paper and don't play for real money.

I can create a Pick-3 system by saying had I played the first digit from X numbers of draws ago and the second and third digits from X numbers of draws and predict the next drawing. Since I can't go back in time and buy tickets, I can only check the system's validity on paper. And if I have enough confidence in the system, I play the results in my state lottery.

I suppose I could have scanned all the $2, $3, $5, and $40 winners I h... [ More ]

Reply #43

FirstBorn — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:08:41 GMT

Hi Summertime,

Thanks for getting into the odds.

Have you read BobP's Blog?

https://www.lotterypost.com/blog.asp?i=1533

Using the odds 167:1

are you able to redo your X's along with BobP's combination/odds?

You might get a better understanding of the system's odds and

why they increase in your favor.

Christopher

Reply #42

BobP — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:08:35 GMT

BobP

Reply #41

RJOh — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:08:18 GMT

Actually, they're not MY predictions, they are the system's predictions.

If the predictions are the system's predictions and not yours then everyone who uses the system must get the same results. If you ever win big then everyone who's playing the same game using that system will share the prize with you.

Reply #40

FirstBorn — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:31:04 GMT

Hi Summertime,

Pete, is that you, how many user names do you have here???!!! LOL, just kidding!

Nah, I'm a bit better lookin' than Pete... haha

(just kidding, Pete.)

which states' lottery do you play

I'm in Central Florida Near Tampa.

I just won this evening to make it 3 wins since I rec'd Pete's System.

Hope that Helps.

Christopher

PS. I do NOT benefit in any way by telling You about this.

Pete Deserves the Kudos because, from what *I* have experienced,... [ More ]

Reply #39

FirstBorn — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:23:36 GMT

Hi Stack47,

Thanks for your comment.

real proof would be would posting your predictions for a couple of weeks

Actually, they're not MY predictions, they are the system's predictions.

You will have to speak with Pete for that as I will not give away HIS system.

Why would you change your numbers if you had confidence in the system?

... again, Not going to give away Pete's System. If You want to know why, then

ASK Pete. OR, purchase His system.

they play on paper a... [ More ]

Reply #38

Summertime — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:28:46 GMT

The odds of hitting a 6-way box with 3 different numbers are 1 in 167.

On average if you win this bet it pays about $40

Lets make this easy for everyone to understand.

So this many times:

X

Out of this many times:

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

You will win this many dollars:

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Thi... [ More ]

Reply #37

BobP — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:37:10 GMT

Let's take a step back. I buy lottery systems mainly out of

curiosity, to see what I may be missing, to see if there is

anything new I can extrapolate from or improve upon. For the

most part I open the system, note any differences from what

I'm used to and store it away. I generally don't need to run

tests to know what I'm looking at.

There are two kinds of systems. Those that require the user

make a choice(s) that will determine whether they will win

or lose. The other kind is... [ More ]

Reply #36

Summertime — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:37:10 GMT

Bob, you do realized that the first sentence of your reply gives away another crutial aspect of Pete's system , right? Between what Pete openly reveals about his system on his blog in the first part of dates between 8/5 - 8-12, and what you have have just said, whats gonna be left to pay $27 for?

Bob, come on you have seen the system , but never tested it. So you are saying you bought all these cheapy systems off eBay, and used them in actual play, but when you get a chance to see Pete's... [ More ]

Reply #35

BobP — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:55:36 GMT

Well we've been talking about Pete's kind of system which uses draw history for a specific state and gives a result to play and your example of systems sellers is a universal system for all states, that sounded like apples and oranges to me.

I have no idea how well Pete's system works. I said I've seen it, not tested it and even if it didn't work in Florida there might be somewhere it does work and before you jump on that I'm saying it might work there based on that state's numbers not Flor... [ More ]

Reply #34

Summertime — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:36:08 GMT

Apples and oranges compared to what? I didn't compare it to anything. I was showing people how there is absolutely no good reason to get hyped up when system dealers try to use the unrealistic (yet convincing to the unaware) trick of showing how their system works based on their system produced numbers hitting various states lotteries and then trying to use that as hype/selling point/proof that their system can pick winning numbers. I was/am showing that you don't need a system to get the sa... [ More ]

Reply #33

BobP — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:51:43 GMT

Apples and oranges. You describe a prediction strategy many use to make predictions on the LP boards for all the states. There are several lists of numbers (20-30) that with over 70 draws a week nationwide will have 30 or more hits per week and still not play at a profit. For a long time a fellow called Ken Dickkerson author of How To Win Games of Chance sold a weekly mailing list of numbers good for any state. He played the wins up big and gave a free week of numbers if you lost.

Lotter... [ More ]

Reply #32

GASMETERGUY — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:38:33 GMT

So that was the problem

Reply #31

Summertime — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:48:53 GMT

Lets talk about pick three systems for a minute here folks. OK, as far as pick 3 systems go the easiest way to get a win in any lottery game is to shoot for a 6-way box with 3 unique numbers, because it offers the best odds of winning a a small cash prize. We all know that it feels good to win, and winning is fun, but there is a difference between winning and making a net profit over the long run. Now if you start playing $25-30 a week on pick three using 3 unique numbers you are going to win no... [ More ]

Reply #30

Summertime — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:48:58 GMT

aaaok,

DON'T GO ANYWHERE!!! I am going to put a copyright name on the martingale system and create some fluffy hype lines about how it wins (but not all the time), and I will be right back!!! I'll set a price so that you feel that it's good, and then if my pokets get fat off your money then at least I deserve it (even if I sent you an age old system that loses on balance with a new fancy name) because I had a set price by golly!!! Anyone without a set price must be a con man, and there... [ More ]

Reply #29

RJOh — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:19:05 GMT

NOTICE!

If any one has a copy of my system, it have been updated since I last gave you a copy of it. Discard it because there are now better systems available on the Internet. However if you have a copy you received legitimately from me I will send you a copy of the updated version with updated files.

Reply #28

aaaok — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:53:43 GMT

i have always thought that a set price was the price you have to pay for a good. its just crazy how you want to try and fatten your pockets by getting something thats not paid for. instead of trying to use your so called wisdom for fortune, to make a purchase of another scheme, why dont you just sell it for $27 since that is what you feel that it is worth

Reply #27

BobP — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:03:53 GMT

Every garden hose I've ever bought has leaked at the faucet. At the store custoners used to return leaking hoses all the time. Eventually I figured out it was the neoprene washer included with every hose. A switch to the old fashioned red rubber washer solved the problem. I wrote to the Melnor hose company and told them I had information that would save them a lot of money on their returns. Melnor replied their percentage of returns was acceptable, they weren't interested. I sent the inform... [ More ]

Reply #26

Summertime — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:39:23 GMT

It's not the PT system, it's yours. I know this because the information matches up exactly with 2/3 of the workings of your system that you yourself posted on your blog dated 8/5 - 8/12. The only thing you didn't post on your blog that is noted elsewhere is how you arrived at those numbers. Well that and your betting schemes. I didn't bookmark the page that has your system posted openly on it, I was doing some late night surfing for lottery systems and came across it. There are other pay systems... [ More ]