Pick-5 Wheels

Reply #21

Stack47 — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:18:23 GMT

I believe Hans was showing a 15 number pick-6 abbreviated wheel with a win guarantee of matching 4 numbers if 5 of the 15 numbers are drawn. A 15 number pick-5 wheel with 4if5 has 95 combination.

Chick on Systems in the blue box above and than click on Pick 5 wheels and you won't need a formula.

Reply #20

HoneyBunny — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:35:34 GMT

Does anyone have a formula like the one Hans showed but for 5 numbers in each row

Reply #19

Feisty1 — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:23:31 GMT

That used to happen to me all the time, I'm thinking a certain number or pair of numbers is going to come out, I play them in every line, and no show. Then I started paying attention to the opposites, meaning the ones I was certain wouldn't show for one reason or another and played them in a smaller wheel along with the ones I was so certain about. Sure enough, I would get a 3 out of that play. So now I always play what I call a baby wheel to try and maximize my coverage, still keeping my main f... [ More ]

Reply #18

jackpotismine — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:47:15 GMT

I've gotten 4 of 5 about 6 times since I've been in China that's about 2 years now. I've never really serious played the pick 5 but now I really want to get 5 0f 5 so I'm trying really hard to analyse the numbers. Today only 1 person got 5 of 5. Yesterday Nobody won so the jackpot won tonight was 235,000.00 Yuan not dollars. Still this is a lot in China. If I win 5,000 Yuan I can live for two months nicely. If you get 4 numbers you only win 50 yuan :-(. Today I got 3 numbers for 5 yuan which is... [ More ]

Reply #17

ThatScaryChick — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:54:11 GMT

I would love to have a 22 number game. Not saying it's easy or anything, but it sounds like a neat Pick 5 game to be able to play. Anyways, keep on working with those numbers and one day you'll get a 4 out of 5 or hopefully a 5 out of 5! Good luck

Reply #16

jackpotismine — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:26:03 GMT

I believe that some people are just intune with numbers. It's not just about odds but also how each individual thinks and feels about numbers. I guess my feeling are off more than on. You know when you say to yourself I have a strong feeling that such and such number is coming out and it doesn't most of the time. Wish there was a way to reprogram my brain to do the opposite and get the right feelings and hit

Reply #15

Feisty1 — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:02:23 GMT

Wow, I'm surprised to hear that its still difficult with only 22 #'s. When I lived in NY (1-39) I would get 4's much easier than I can here in NJ (1-40). I couldn't believe the difference 1 digit made.

Reply #14

jackpotismine — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:44:37 GMT

Anytime! Our take 5 is only 22 numbers but not easy to hit. Last night no one won. I do have gh system. The most I've gotten is 4 numbers. It only pays 50 yuan which is about $3.50. 4 numbers isn't easy to hit either. Some people have said What! only 22 numbers yeah but believe me it's not easy to hit. I'll keep trying. Good luck to you too

Reply #13

Feisty1 — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:11:50 GMT

Thank you jackpotismine, yes I have used this approach and it is especially helpful in picking what GH calls power #'s, which are numbers that when wheeled appear in every game. Using this approach can generate 3's pretty easily and 4's occasionally, unfortunately here in NJ the payout on a 3 isn't usually enough to cover the cost of any wheel of more than 10 games. I'll keep plugging away at it though, good luck to you too. If I come up with anything successful I'll definitely let you know ...... [ More ]

Reply #12

jackpotismine — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:54:33 GMT

Have you tried this:

Take all the numbers 1 by 1 starting with one of course. Take 50 draws that has the 1 and make a list of which number comes out the most with the 1. If you do this with all the numbers you will have pairs, three's, four's that you will be able to use for your wheels. For example when I play the 1 I often include number 18 because they are oftened paired together, mind you not ALL the time of course but alot of the times. I find that all numbers have a partner or two most... [ More ]

Reply #11

Feisty1 — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:37:36 GMT

You are absolutely right about the frequently drawn #'s affecting the number of 3's and 4's because my 15# wheels would typically contain 9-10 freq. #'s and the remaining ones would be #'s that when they played, more times than not would play with those specific hot #'s. I haven't paid a lot of attention to the odd/even breakdown because in the two wheels that I've focused on the most, one has a disproportionate amount of even #'s (11 even/4 odd) and the other one is pretty much evenly split (8... [ More ]

Reply #10

Stack47 — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:55:41 GMT

That depends on the numbers of drawings used. I checked the 15 least frequent numbers in the Jersey Cash 5 game and they matched 5 numbers 4 times in 1600 drawings. Any 15 numbers would probably have some 5 matches. The order you place your numbers in an abbreviated wheel won't change the guarantee so if one or more of the combos has already been drawn, change the order.

You could compare the amount of times your 15 numbers matched 3 or 4 in all the drawings to the last 400 drawings and see... [ More ]

Reply #9

Feisty1 — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:41:21 GMT

Here's a question I've been wrestling with for a while now and can't seem to come up with the best way to go. When you create a wheel from any of the above scenarios (let's say using 13-15 numbers) and then back test to see what it would have done, do you go with the wheel that generated a couple of 5's, 4's 3's or when modified you see that it got zero 5's but many more 4's 3's with the thinking that it's less likely for the 5's to repeat but a better chance for one of the 4's to become a 5... [ More ]

Reply #8

bootleg233 — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:00:11 GMT

Original Post by Hans Total 168 lines,It has been tested that when each line has 6 numbers,it will win the most back when 4 to 5 winning numbers get dropped in 16 wheeled numbers.

The only risky part is less than 4 winning numbers get predicted in 16 numbers.

Hans

Thanks Hans but I am more interested in the pick-5 games 1-39. I like the lower odds (LOL,LOL) like it matters......but thanks.

Reply #7

Hans — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:19:57 GMT

Total 168 lines,It has been tested that when each line has 6 numbers,it will win the most back when 4 to 5 winning numbers get dropped in 16 wheeled numbers.

The only risky part is less than 4 winning numbers get predicted in 16 numbers.

Hans

Reply #6

DownandDirty — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:36:50 GMT

Anyone ever actually ever try as extensive a wheel as this? How many is this 200 or so?

How'd ya do?

This can't even come close to covering al the combos. Still very risky right.

I think I'll do a paper testt for fun.

Reply #5

Hans — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:47:13 GMT

when 5 winning numbers are within 15 numbers,this formula has best guarantee to get a jackpot,and 100% of more 4 hits.This is a multi ticket wheel so it requires more investment.

Numbers:01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15

01 03 06 07 08 09

01 05 06 07 08 09

01 03 04 05 06 07

01 02 04 05 07 08

03 05 06 07 08 09

01 02 03 04 05 07

03 04 06 07 08 09

01 02 04 05 08 09

01 02 03 04 06 08

02 04 05 06 07 08

01 02 03 05 06 07

01 02 03 05 06 08

01 02 03 0... [ More ]

Reply #4

redtag — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:21:24 GMT

How much $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ do you have?

I'll share 1/2 the jackpot with you.....secret play ever combination.....ssshhhhh don't tell anyone

Reply #3

bootleg233 — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:48:43 GMT

Thanks Todd and Stack47 for the help.

Reply #2

Stack47 — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:29:42 GMT

For the best coverage, it depends on how much you want to bet. If you have a strategy that consistently picks 4 numbers out of 12 and an occasional 5, a 4if4 wheel with 113 combinations might be what you're looking for. A 4if5 11 number wheel costs $22 but if you want to use 12 numbers in the same type of wheel, it goes up $35 and $50 for 13 numbers. It's still possible to get 4 out of 5 by just matching 4 numbers and if you don't, the 2 and 3 matches might cover the cost.

My strategy consist... [ More ]

Reply #1

Todd — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:08:01 GMT

Make sure you use the search feature in the forums menu, because there have been many previous discussions about that topic.

Pick-5 Wheels

bootleg233 — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:59:30 GMT

I just wondered which pick-5 wheel anyone here has used and had luck with? Like what is the best coverage for the most numbers with the list number of games and the best chance of like 4 of 5 if not the JP