The Most important Lottery Statistics

Reply #16

tntea — Mon, 26 May 2008 14:24:30 GMT

great stats... Thanks

Reply #15

BobP — Thu, 22 May 2008 08:51:12 GMT

The most important statistic/filter is the one you are most likely to

get right with the least consequence when wrong. That would be

no adjacent numbers followed by no repeat numbers.

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YN

NY

NN

25% of the time both correct.

The 3, 1 in 3 choices . . .

YYY

YYN

YNY

NYY

YNN

NYN

NNY

NNN

correct 1 in 8 tries

With above, right about 1 in 32 tries, though the 1in3 filters generally

have a larger percentage orbited by two lower percenta... [ More ]

Reply #14

benmas — Thu, 22 May 2008 06:23:49 GMT

what you say is right but even if you reduced to half the numbers succesfully it is still too many...

How many statistical experts have frequented the LP and other lottery sites?

the statistical geeks use too many statistics thats why the end up confusing themselves most of the time...if you use only three to five key stats combined with your observations and you can do the picks in your mind with those (no software neccesary) than it works better..keep it simple...also the lotto programs... [ More ]

Reply #13

JKING — Thu, 22 May 2008 05:34:56 GMT

Hi,

Yes, there are methods that eliminate more numbers somewhat reliably. Simple observation and testing through pick histories appears to be a valid approach. All I would try to impart, is that even as strong as statistics is, it won't be enough. How many statistical experts have frequented the LP and other lottery sites? The result always appears to be the same....no winning system based on statistics alone. Therefore, because so many have taken the pure statistical path before with no suc... [ More ]

Reply #12

benmas — Wed, 21 May 2008 21:13:56 GMT

OK, what you said is true most of the time but there are only few numbers that exhibit the 1) 2) and 3) you mentioned..even if you are right you can only reduce 3-5 numbers...ok i agree with you that eliminating certain unlikely numbers eliminates more combos and leaves better chances for success...however there are still many balls left..a better coverage strategy is needed... thats why i want to get to 5 most important statistical considerations also...you can still do your number elimination

Reply #11

JKING — Wed, 21 May 2008 14:59:12 GMT

Hi,

By eliminating numbers you increase your odds that you will hit. Mainly because you've reduced the amount of combinations. Examples in a Fantasy 5 game might consist of 1) numbers that have occured two times in a row or 2) numbers that have occured 3 times in the last 10 games or 3) numbers that have occured more than 8 times in the last 39 games. As always, there are examples where these things have occured, but it is a very low percentage of the time. Because cumulitive errors are mult... [ More ]

Reply #10

benmas — Wed, 21 May 2008 01:35:54 GMT

What exactly?...Just eliminate some Cold numbers?..Thats not a statistic, its just a thing that occurs because some numbers come up more meaning some others will sit idle for some time...

We all do that anyway..we eliminate certain numbers when making our picks...elimination helps but the filters should be geared more towards getting hits because thats where the money is

Reply #9

JKING — Tue, 20 May 2008 18:54:40 GMT

Hi,

I would suggest two catagories for the 5 most important filters. Individual number elimation and elimination of combinations. In either case, it is getting the highest amount eliminated with the least amount of error.

Reply #8

benmas — Tue, 20 May 2008 01:24:26 GMT

The discussion here is not limited to filters by using them in lottery software....A person can use filters by using his mind only when going to a store and choosing numbers...For example: One goes to store to play and notices the previous winning numbers posted on a board...He/She then decides that from last draw one number will repeat (lets say last PB draw he saw was 12-14-15-21-43) He/She chooses 14 as a repeat (and eliminates the other 4)...after that decides that since there were adjacent

Reply #7

BobP — Mon, 19 May 2008 07:01:43 GMT

The filters I listed, Repeats, Adjacent, First Digit, Last Digit, Summed

Digits, are the only ones with strong 1of2 or 1of3 choices. All the

others are like Odd/Even, Low/High, Sums with 1of5 choices or more

to make.

Even with 10 different filters a single choice from each (for which

there is no rational decision to be made) you end up playing in a

lottery that's generally as hard to beat as Pick-4 straight.

With too many filters you end up playing the filter lottery i... [ More ]

Reply #6

benmas — Sun, 18 May 2008 07:02:25 GMT

Just a quick note: This post is not to say that Quick picks are not good or to discurage them..to the contrary: if you can buy Qps in addition to your own picks thats even better...the primary reason of this post is to find the most important statistical categories or filters that have the most potential in prediction future draws...and some comments how to use these filters

Coin Toss: i said at the very beginning Computers and controversies aside ...i'm assuming that we are playing live ball... [ More ]

Reply #5

benmas — Sun, 18 May 2008 06:52:30 GMT

you highlighted some very good statistics Bobp...from your list I rate as the most important in order:

1) repeats from last draw (i said that earlier too)...

2) first digit breakdown: (DECADES)

3) the adjacent or consecutive #s (10-11)

..these three are some of the main ones.. they give the best % splits...now it would be good to show how to use these filters in the most effective or systematic way....for example if you know that three numbers are going to come from one decade the pr... [ More ]

Reply #4

Texas MadMan — Sun, 18 May 2008 06:49:28 GMT

Benmas: I agree with you 100% on your first post. Lottery drawings are random and the only hope we have of making smart picks is to try to find some kind of pattern we can exploit. For a long time I only bought quick picks. I started getting tired of quick picks that seemed very unlikely to hit. For example for a pick 5 something like: 5-6-7-8-30. I started trying writing all kinds of spreadsheets that would analyze hot/cold, even/odd, hit/skip....etc. It would all look good on paper, but never

Reply #3

Coin Toss — Sun, 18 May 2008 06:14:56 GMT

I would start off with Is the game hittable?

Remember the threads about the Tennessee lottery and how it ass impossible for a triple to be drawn, yet the state lottery accepted tickets with triples.

I'd definitely make that one of the five factors, or a prerequisite to get to five factors.

Reply #2

BobP — Sun, 18 May 2008 05:56:13 GMT

When we talk about filters I assume we're talking about starting with

all the combinations so we know the 5# winning combination without

the PowerBall is in there.

In that case the repeats for the last 283 draws were

54.8% for none

36.5% for one

7.9% for two

0.7% for three

Games like 6/49 are generally around 45% for none, though it is still

a very good number.

The best filters are those that offer roughly a 1in2 or 1in3 chance

of getting it right more o... [ More ]

Reply #1

benmas — Sun, 18 May 2008 04:55:39 GMT

Lets start discussion with Powerball 5/55 game..some people already know about this but they simply overlook the usefulness of this statistic because they dont know how to apply it..the key is to have a systematic approach..

1) Repeats from last draw

three options:

A) NO number will repeat 60% chance of happening

B) 1 Number will repeat 30% chance of happening (about 1 in 3)

C) 2 Numbers will repeat 5.5% of happening

if you decide to go with option A the benefit is that yo... [ More ]

The Most important Lottery Statistics

benmas — Sun, 18 May 2008 04:21:48 GMT

Computers and controversies aside, choosing lottery numbers by spinning around balls inside a machine is a random event...NO matter how low or high the odds are for a game, over time it performs according to mathematical and statistical expectations...Most lottery players base their picks by looking at previous drawings results...This is done in order to extract or pick on some key statistics they think will appear on next draw based on the previous drawings occurences...Obviously i have heard o... [ More ]