Interesting Powerball fact discoveries

Reply #40

Todd — Thu, 29 May 2008 13:27:55 GMT

Yes, there are two editors available at Lottery Post. We aim to please!

The Rich Text Editor is the default that most people use. It is a very advanced text editor, pushing the limits of what web browsers are capable of. However, most people do not even attempt to use the more advanced features. All the buttons are right there and advanced features can be used by clicking a little button, but alas, I cannot force people to click the buttons.

The Simple Codes Editor is activated if you go i... [ More ]

Reply #39

time*treat — Thu, 29 May 2008 02:37:59 GMT

From what I have seen, the main difference between using 285 or 1101 (or some number in between) drawings for developing a system is one of which particular drawing (if any) it will hit on. Even the matrix changes, etc. don't have to be a big deal, depending on how rigid the system is.

I.e., if we were all using the same basic method, but used slightly different periods to define 'hot', 'cold', 'moving average', etc., we'd all have nearly the same hit-ratio over the course of a year - but we... [ More ]

Reply #38

tntea — Thu, 29 May 2008 02:18:06 GMT

Nice

Reply #37

Raven62 — Thu, 29 May 2008 01:16:47 GMT

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question: Their are two Lottery Post Editors: Both of them will do this Function? I've looked for Directions on How to do this Function, but I haven't found them as yet: Can you direct me to them? Thanks,

Reply #36

KY Floyd — Thu, 29 May 2008 00:02:23 GMT

I'd say you're both right. They check the balls and don't use them as long as they believe that all of the balls are within spec, but that doesn't mean that every ball is perfect and exactly the same as every other ball. The variations will be minor, but they will be there, and it's reasonable to assume that some balls will be slightly more or less likely to be drawn. The question is how much more or less likely.

If everything about the drawing was completely perfect and a single ballset was... [ More ]

Reply #35

Todd — Wed, 28 May 2008 22:06:44 GMT

The Lottery Post editor.

Title Description

Wow this

is a chart

Reply #34

Pogo — Wed, 28 May 2008 21:48:57 GMT

BTW, if you're using my spreadsheet for powerball pairs, you can add any new draws anywhere in the draw's columns because we're simply looking for pairs not necessarily in a chronological sense... Good Luck, PoGo

Reply #33

Pogo — Wed, 28 May 2008 02:04:42 GMT

Like I said I wasn't trying to step on anyone's toes... But to put it simply does anyone know the ball set number before any given draw in time enough to buy your ticket??? Just a question - not trying to get you mad... Pogo

Reply #32

benmas — Wed, 28 May 2008 01:15:28 GMT

you are wrong..they weigh and measure the ball set they are going to use before and after draw...if the balls dont pass the measurements required and also a visual inspection for cracks, defects etc they dont use them...they also do pretests...these are simple facts...

therefore if you knew each ball ser and when they were going to draw and finally recorded what balls came up, you would start to see a pattern for each ball set

to prove you wrong you can go back and check all the pretests... [ More ]

Reply #31

pumpi76 — Tue, 27 May 2008 22:01:09 GMT

To TNtea Timetreat...Thanks...

You made me brush up on something i thought years ago but never went into it because i thought i didn't know how i would do it...

but what if instead of looking at when 2 numbers pair up together what if you look at the pair up of all 5 + 1 numbers and you make a chart of it for Powerball...I still don't know how you will do it because i don't see how it will work in excel or in a x-y axis...

But if you had a semi-supercomputer (here i go again) and you do... [ More ]

Reply #30

Pogo — Tue, 27 May 2008 20:24:51 GMT

I have to disagree, no ball set is perfect from defects, therefore if you knew each ball ser and when they were going to draw and finally recorded what balls came up, you would start to see a pattern for each ball set... The real reason they use multiple ball sets and multiple machines for that matter is to make the draws random not for security purposes - Not to hurt anyone's feelings, Pogo

Reply #29

benmas — Tue, 27 May 2008 07:06:55 GMT

If someone told you that next time they will use ball set 12 what advantage would that bring..none really..the main reason they use different balls sets is to ensure security (since if someone were to tamper with a particular set there would be no guarantee they will use it)...and also its good when you change balls because it helps with the wearing out or not getting damaged so quickly as if you just used one single set all the time...

the balls are the same size and same weight to very very... [ More ]

Reply #28

guesser — Tue, 27 May 2008 06:01:44 GMT

Not just the last matrix change, but the last ballset change would be more appropriate.

Reply #27

Pogo — Tue, 27 May 2008 02:18:16 GMT

Thank You, just helping out saving others some WORK - lol, Pogo

Reply #26

time*treat — Tue, 27 May 2008 02:09:53 GMT

Nice layout, Pogo. Gonna save people a lot of work.

Reply #25

Pogo — Mon, 26 May 2008 22:30:25 GMT

I have made a spreadsheet for pairs... It will work with any pick5 system upto 55 digits deep... Enjoy check it out here called PowerBall (Freq Pairs) - http://lottostop.tripod.com

Pogo

Reply #24

tntea — Mon, 26 May 2008 18:54:55 GMT

Looks good.

Reply #23

spy153 — Mon, 26 May 2008 18:21:46 GMT

I was joking. Guess you didn't get it. I really have to start adding JK (just kidding) at the end of some of my posts.

Reply #22

RJOh — Mon, 26 May 2008 17:55:01 GMT

No, I don't but as I've mentioned in other threads, my lottery programs are written using GWBasic so they run in a DOS command window which has fixed 80x25 characters of the same size. When I copy and paste using the courier font set everything line up just as it appear in the DOS screen because the courier front set isn't proportional like other font sets.

The same thing can be done with any program that runs in a DOS Command window.

Reply #21

spy153 — Mon, 26 May 2008 16:09:12 GMT

so you work for the government

Reply #20

Raven62 — Sun, 25 May 2008 23:25:30 GMT

Which Editor lets you post charts with fixed fonts

Reply #19

RJOh — Sun, 25 May 2008 23:14:37 GMT

I tried using those features but I've got some learning to do yet. Since all of my charts are text and displayed on an old DOS 80x25 characters screen, I just copy and paste them using the courier font set.

Reply #18

Todd — Sun, 25 May 2008 22:59:26 GMT

Not really. If you take some time to check out all the features, you would be able to find ways to accomplish things very quickly. The grid could be formatted here as quick -- or quicker -- than doing the same thing in Excel.

Reply #17

Todd — Sun, 25 May 2008 22:57:31 GMT

People who try to use a proportional font with no table, and expect the results to line up will come to this same conclusion, and it has nothing to do with this site. It has to do with the fact that the person did not use a table, and also used a proportional font.

Kind of like someone trying to create a spreadsheet using Word instead of Excel.

Or like trying to bang a nail into a piece of wood using a screwdriver.

The editor here has terrific grid controls, but the person making the po... [ More ]

Reply #16

RJOh — Sun, 25 May 2008 22:16:14 GMT

Nice work time*treat. Todd added chart posting tools but they require some extra work.

Reply #15

Raven62 — Sun, 25 May 2008 21:58:17 GMT

time*treat said:

Looks like a count of pairings of one number on the x-axis and another on the y-axis, with a 'count' where they intersect. It's hard to make the charts look good after you hit 'post'

Exactly, Thanks time*treat

Reply #14

Raven62 — Sun, 25 May 2008 21:52:31 GMT

A chart of pairs of numbers that have hit together in the history of pb since the last matrix change. The listing shows the amount of times two numbers have hit together.

Reply #13

time*treat — Sun, 25 May 2008 18:10:36 GMT

Looks like a count of pairings of one number on the x-axis and another on the y-axis, with a 'count' where they intersect. It's hard to make the charts look good after you hit 'post'

PR 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55

1 0 1 1 0 4 1 3 4 0 2 1 0 1 1 4 1 3 0 1 0 5 1 3 1 3 4 0 0 0 2 2 1 0 5 3 3 3 2 0 5 0 2 3 1 2 1 1 1 2 2 2 0 1 0 3

2 0 0 2 1 1 0 0 4 3 2 2 2 3... [ More ]

Reply #12

RJOh — Sun, 25 May 2008 17:09:42 GMT

What does it respresent

Reply #11

dvdiva — Sun, 25 May 2008 03:29:44 GMT

If you are worried about the balls and not the numbers then you would also have to know what ball set they are using (they have more than one) and that data isn't listed. I have only seen the UK lottery post that information, not a US run lottery.

Reply #10

KY Floyd — Sat, 24 May 2008 14:15:31 GMT

Exactly. They don't draw numbers. They draw balls that happen to have numbers printed on them. Why worry about numbers that only change every few years when the balls are randomly changed all the time? The number 6 may have been in the winning combination more often than any other number, but the *ball* that has been drawn most often might be one with a 23 printed on it. Unless you can account for which balls were actually drawn you're collecting trivia, not data.

Reply #9

Raven62 — Fri, 23 May 2008 16:53:57 GMT

I Disagree: They have changed the Balls Sets quite a few times since the inception of the Game, which changes the behavior of the Number Assigned to each Ball. It may not even be worth looking at the last 285 draws. LOL...

Reply #8

RJOh — Fri, 23 May 2008 16:43:21 GMT

It really depends on what you are trying to do, when you're picking numbers to play, checking just the last 285 drawings since the last matrix change is good but if you're talking about the history of PowerBall drawings, including all 1101 drawings since it started is better.

Reply #7

Raven62 — Fri, 23 May 2008 16:43:06 GMT

PR 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55

01 0 1 1 0 4 1 3 4 0 2 1 0 1 1 4 1 3 0 1 0 5 1 3 1 3 4 0 0 0 2 2 1 0 5 3 3 3 2 0 5 0 2 3 1 2 1 1 1 2 2 2 0 1 0 3

02 0 0 2 1 1 0 0 4 3 2 2 2 3 2 5 4 2 0 2 1 4 3 4 3 2 1 2 4 2 2 5 3 0 2 3 4 2 1 1 2 3 6 3 3 3 1 2 5 1 3 2 1 0 3 5

03 0 0 0 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 3 2 3 2 0 0 1 2 4 3 2 1 0 3 0 2 1 2 1 2 2 1 1 2 3 1 2 1 4 4 0 3 4 1 3 2 2

Reply #6

Raven62 — Fri, 23 May 2008 16:08:14 GMT

It seems kind of pointless to go back to data that existed before the last matrix change.

Reply #5

RJOh — Fri, 23 May 2008 16:03:18 GMT

The PowerBall website has a downloadable text file with all its winning numbers from 11/05/1997.

Reply #4

tntea — Fri, 23 May 2008 15:10:26 GMT

The most I have seen using LP is 12 times with (10,40)..

I still have lots to put in and check out. It has been interesting though.

Goal.... Improving the chance to get more than 3 white balls..... Really aiming for 5 white balls..

Reply #3

tntea — Fri, 23 May 2008 15:07:37 GMT

Thanks for the correction. I am using the tools here at LP

Where can I go back to the beginning

Reply #2

benmas — Fri, 23 May 2008 07:07:20 GMT

I don't see this as surprising at all...we know that some numbers come out more often and we know that there are stinkers...therefore some numbers will make more pairs and some pairs will not be made at all...

Rjoh i dont think it is accurate to go back to 2000 because that game is different the probabilities are different so the comparison is not accurate...I only keep results of 285 games since the new matrix with 55 balls....

anyways there are a total of 217 different pairs that have ne... [ More ]

Reply #1

RJOh — Fri, 23 May 2008 04:05:50 GMT

12/23/2000 - 06 11 15 22 27 +27

Your records much not go back to 11/05/1997

55 has never hit with 06,16,20,25,46,51, but 55 has not been in the matrix that long.

Interesting Powerball fact discoveries

tntea — Fri, 23 May 2008 01:52:42 GMT

I am in process of making a chart of pairs of numbers that have hit in the history of pb. I am listing the amount of times two numbers have hit together.

Interesting fact. For history of powerball 11 -15 have never hit together.

Will post more as discoveries are made.