What about combinations that start with 18 + wheels for Pick5

Reply #40

four4me — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:44:24 GMT

The theory is to select balls between 9-33 ---- need 10 balls and #'s 1-8 need 4 balls and #'s 33-39 need 4 balls to create the 18 number wheel.

At this point you hope to select the winning balls for the wheel create the wheel and select as many tickets that you can afford to play ---- play the same sets every day ---note select the hottest balls in the group of 39. Don't play any lines that have won a jackpot already as they rarely draw the same numbers in any pick 5 games.

I may even put... [ More ]

Reply #39

pumpi76 — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:03:14 GMT

is a great system but like many it doesn't come out to a playable combination...Defeat again...

Reply #38

pumpi76 — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:21:10 GMT

it can even get to be 1-5-XXX-35-39 where XXX is 10-30 or 11-30 or 11-29...that one comes out to be 25 dollars...The only problem is that for this kind of system you have to be sure when you bet...

It just proves that with a supercomputer you can crack that game...

not only that but if 1-5-XXX-35-39 if the 1st digit is from 1-5 been a low ending digit and the 5th number been 35-39, then 10-30 or XXX will have 2 low ending digits and 1 high ending digits...Sometimes you will have a 2 high e... [ More ]

Reply #37

pumpi76 — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:22:24 GMT

it can also be a 1-8-XXX-34-39....Because sometimes that's the case/configuration...

This system goes straight for 5/5...It will be nice if this system went for 4/5's, that way it will reduce the cost, and maybe be more lethal...That's the problem right now...

Reply #36

pumpi76 — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:26:27 GMT

so it basically can be a 01-10-XXX-30-39 game....But it can also be 01-08-XXX-33-39....or it can be a 01-08-XXX-29-39....or it can be a: 01-06-XXX-30-39....it all depends how you like the range you can switch the range a little to your liking...

Reply #35

pumpi76 — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:38:38 GMT

The 3 ending digits [the XXX], i think they can be regular numbers also and not ending digits...Plus you have to look into the 5's, the patterns that i told you previously about the 5's...

if you look at it as 3 ending digits [the XXX], then you can also look at high numbers over low numbers 0-5 = low numbers and 6-0 equals high numbers...There is usually 2 high numbers and 1 low number or 2 low numbers and 1 high numbers [usually of pick3] so if you apply that rule to this one but ending dig... [ More ]

Reply #34

pumpi76 — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:32:44 GMT

it does come out to 200 dollars but you have to guess the 3 numbers from 10-30...

This is how i see it 01-XXX-30....suppose you get the 3 numbers for the XXX suppose you get it and suppose they are XXX...

then it will be 01-XXX-30, then 01-XXX-31, then 01-XXX-32, then 01-XXX-33, then 01-XXX-34, then 01-XXX-35, then 01-XXX-36, then 01-XXX-37, then 01-XXX-38, then 01-XXX-39..that comes out to 9 tickets [i calculated 10], then you start with 02 which will be 02-XXX-30, then 02-XXX-31 and so o... [ More ]

Reply #33

pumpi76 — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:02:14 GMT

you are deducing but at the same time you are not....for the 3 numbers from 10-30 you deduce with ending digits but for the 2 others rest of numbers you don't...

sorry if you don't understand is in my blog...

is like at some moments you are in the water and at times you are not in the water....

the way i am doing it is less than 2,200 dollars...

10 x 10 = 100 x 2 = 200...All you got to do is get the 3 numbers ending digits from 10-30..And don't forget about the 5's....

The way i a... [ More ]

Reply #32

pumpi76 — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:50:17 GMT

i forgot to mention, this key-number wheel the key numbers are not from a key-number wheel but from ending digits deducing...

Reply #31

pumpi76 — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:41:07 GMT

And what about the fact that if you look at it as 1st number 1-8 or 1-10 and then 2nd, 3rd and 4th are from 10-30 then what about the fact of 5's if is the 3 numbers are from 10-30, then you have 4 types of 5's...from 11-15, from 16-20, from 21-25, from 26-30 and what about the fact that those 3 numbers sometimes play 2 numbers from 1 type of 5's and the other 1 from another type of 5's...And the fact of the even/odd types and high ending digits/low ending digits ratio, you look at it as a Pick3... [ More ]

Reply #30

four4me — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:38:33 GMT

Tonight's Bonus match five numbers were 05 - 10 - 12 -21 - 28 four numbers were between 8 and 33

two numbers were repeats from the other day 10 -21

three numbers were skips 05 - 12 - 28

key # is 21 but could have been any number that repeated i think the rest are skips and repeats from the last 4 draws. numbers used in the wheel are 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 10 11 12 13 23 26 28 34 37 39

Todd's wheel Key 5 if 5 of 18 = 2380 tickets--- the win is on line 1777

18 numbers is a big whe... [ More ]

Reply #29

pumpi76 — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:27:49 GMT

think about it as a key-number wheel the 2nd, 3rd and 4th digits are the key numbers and the 1st and 5th are the regular numbers....

And another constraint is TNTea's 2-1-1 types for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th digit...What a number ah? 234....

i am starting to see more and more, deeper...

Reply #28

pumpi76 — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:09:52 GMT

i meant to say:

i wonder if that can be a constraint when deducing...And i wonder if the 1st number been from 1-8 and the 5th number been from 30-34 or from 34-39 can make up when ending digits deducing for the 3 numbers been from 9-34 or from 9-30...With of course the Even/odd ratio and the High ending digits/Low ending digits ratio as constraints...

Reply #27

pumpi76 — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:47:17 GMT

i wonder if that can be a constraint when deducing...And i wonder if the 1st number been from 1-8 and the 5th number been from 30-34 or from 34-39 can make up when deducing for the 3 numbers been from 9-34 or from 9-30...With of course the Even/odd ratio and the High ending digits/Low ending digits ratio as constraints...

If this is possible...MY gosh Game over and we found another system that can crack it....

it is that that they need to continue exploring and drilling...

Reply #26

four4me — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:23:11 GMT

Thank you pumpi76 after reading your first post about this i though about it and what BobP said then remembered Gail Howard's comment on this also I'm not taking up for Gail. But she does have some good ideas on wheeling whether she thought of them or got them from other people. The fact that she is successful is only because she had the front money to get a book published. Since people will go to great lengths to find ways of winning the lottery they will buy anything lottery related to try and... [ More ]

Reply #25

pumpi76 — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:16:27 GMT

Whao four4me, you gave me a great idea, but i'll post it later but sorry is for another thread....

Well thanks to you and gail howard, even though i am not trying to be mean but i sort of laid the foundation for that kind of thinking like 9 years ago, even though i don't know how could she had thought about it...Not trying to be mean again but somehow i sort of don't trust Gail Howard, i think she is fishy...Why i think this way? Because of all the lottery software companies Gail Howard is th... [ More ]

Reply #24

four4me — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:22:02 GMT

Maryland's Bonus Match 5 a 5-39 game

More often than not 4 numbers between 9 and 33 will be drawn with the 5th number being between 1 and 8 or 34 through 39.

Also nearly but not all other drawings 3 numbers will be drawn between 9 and 33 with the other 2 numbers being drawn 1 through 8 or 34 through 39 or both.

All other drawing numbers are spread through the group. All this can easily be tracked by making a chart and color coding the chart so you can see the information.

This info o... [ More ]

Reply #23

BobP — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:13:44 GMT

I think it's a great idea pumpi76 way to go.

From the Lotto-Logix 1994 book Lottery Concepts:

SHRINK YOUR LOTTERY

Ever find yourself wishing your lottery didn't have so many

numbers to pick from. Well, contained within your larger

Lottery are several smaller lotteries you may play. As you

scan your list of past winning numbers, you will notice that

in about one out of five times, the winning numbers start at a

higher number then ten. Some players ignore all numbers... [ More ]

Reply #22

pumpi76 — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:54:20 GMT

Virginia Pick5 [Cash5]:

19,21,23,30,32 on 3/3/2009 [spread of 13]

20,22,23,31,32 on 3/2/2009 [spread of 12]

17,20,21,23,29 on 2/18/2009 [spread of 12]

17,19,25,26,28 on 1/26/2009 [spread of 11]

18,20,22,24,29 on 1/13/2009 [spread of 11]

19,21,22,24,33 on 12/25/2008 [spread of 14

Reply #21

pumpi76 — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:10:00 GMT

If you added the middle line to the 18+ to 22 combinations with 9-14 spread and then added the HML system....Who knows...

Reply #20

pumpi76 — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:05:39 GMT

you can add the HML system to the 18+ to 22 combinations with 9-14 spread...you will know if you check my blog...

Reply #19

pumpi76 — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:54:23 GMT

what you do next is that next to the LHHHL system you write the Even/odd numbers....please don't mind this....

Reply #18

pumpi76 — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:02:15 GMT

again this is to throw people off is only for those that have been following my every move in my blog...Remember the range of 1 to 14 and the middle line of 7, well you could throw in there the HL for the ending digits meaning for example...

if you have 22-24-25-27-31 you look at the ending digits which are 2-4-5-7-1 and write: LHHHL...again this proves that with a semi-supercomputer you can crack pick5....The first L is low because is lower than the second number...

Reply #17

bootleg233 — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:14:09 GMT

Thanks pumpi76 not sure if it was the shuteye or that explaination but I believe I am understanding better now! And again Thanks.

Reply #16

pumpi76 — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:19:14 GMT

bootleg233, that part i meant to put it there to throw you off, it is only for people that follow my blog...

that part you don't have to listen to it...This is what i meant to say since you haven't been following my blogs..I post things sometimes so that the world sees them and follow my every step not for LP members...

Anyways you have combinations that start with 18 and 18 + 14 equal 32...The fartest commonly i see the numbers gone is to start with 22....

so what i'll do is if i were... [ More ]

Reply #15

bootleg233 — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 03:01:54 GMT

OK OK I admit it I am at a TOTAL loss now?..@@ %^ *( maybe its just lack of sleep 10-14 14 divided by 2 subtract 7 take 5 sometimes 10 then middle 5 take 5 at a time oh yeah then the 1 digit repeat??????????? ok pumpi I tryed to follow but now I am really lost....but Thanks anyways LOL. Will try again after subtracting 40 winks lol

Reply #14

pumpi76 — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:20:45 GMT

when 1 digit repeat and you have that 1 digit but not repeated you repeat it anyways, you repeat all 5 digits when deducing...

Reply #13

pumpi76 — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:15:30 GMT

I just thought of something, since the spread of the combinations that start with 18+ is between 10-14, why not create a delta lotto system from the middle line taking as a base 14 and dividing it in 2 so that you subtract anything from 7....And remember you can always get them box...Remember that they are 7 but you take 5 at a time sometimes is 10 so the middle line will be 5 and you take 5 at a time...but the thing is when the 1 digit repeat...and then you deduce....

Reply #12

pumpi76 — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:18:37 GMT

you can set for instance a spread between 10-14 and 2 and 3 are regular numbers and if something has the 5 or above 5 difference delta numbers then it will be the equivalent of a 3-1-1 on the TNTea's combo...But again softwares are so behind in technology....You can even look at the sum of the ending digits [is only 10 numbers]...

you could say that a one 5 horizontal difference delta lotto number is equaled to a 3-1-1 a one 6 equaled to a 3-2-0 and a 7 equaled to 4-1-0...

Reply #11

pumpi76 — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:55:32 GMT

i wonder if you can apply TNTea's 2-2-1 combo to the delta lotto system...

will like to add that there are 2 kinds of delta lotto system one is the regular delta lotto system that you can find on the internet by searching delta lotto system and the other is the reverse delta lotto syste numbers which you can find in my blog....

Reply #10

pumpi76 — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:47:49 GMT

you could even create a database of the different numbers that have played from 18 + or 17 + and that have a spread of 9-14 and check which numbers have played the most or which numbers are due more likely and thus prepared yourself for the next comming event...

you could even look at the delta lotto number or difference numbers between each number and its adjacent number and create a year or 2 year database or even more years and create a database with algorithms and check which combination

Reply #9

pumpi76 — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:41:45 GMT

This is in the last 3 months...

MISSOURI Show me Cash Pick5:

18-22-27-29-37 on Thu, Feb 05, 2009

19-21-23-27-28 on Tue, Feb 17, 2009 [spread of 9]

24-31-32-33-36 on Thu, Jan 08, 2009 [spread of 12]

18-20-21-22-23 on Tue, Jan 20, 2009 [spread of 5]

24-26-27-38-39 on Mon, Dec 29, 2008

Illinois PIck5 [little lotto]

30-32-35-36-37 on 01/14/2009 [spread of 7]

26-31-33-38-39 on 01/04/2009 [spread of 13]

22-23-25-26-34 on 12/02/2008 [spread of 12]

NEW MEXICO p... [ More ]

Reply #8

pumpi76 — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:04:50 GMT

What if you was to create an abbreviated wheel that will have spreads of only from 10-14 difference and start from 17 or 18 +...You sure will win the lottery....

when i said spread i mean the difference between the 1st number and the last number...Notice that a lot of spread usually go from 10 to 14....

Reply #7

pumpi76 — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:00:05 GMT

ALL THIS DURING THE LAST 3 MONTHS...

Maryland you've got: 18.21.24.29.39 on 01/2/09

26.29.32.35.37 on 12/10/08 [spread of 11]

17.19.24.29.31 on 11/12/08 [spread of 14]

IN CONNETICUTT you have Cash5 [pick5]

17-23-25-26-29 on 11/13/2008 [spread of 12]

24-26-30-34-35 on 11/07/2008 [spread of 11]

20-24-26-29-30 on 11/05/2008 [spread of 10]

Massachussetts on PIck5 [mass cash] had:

20-27-28-31-35 on 12/23/08

Michigan on Pick5 [fantasy5]

19 20 21 35 39 ...Sun. Nov 09, 2... [ More ]

Reply #6

pumpi76 — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:50:43 GMT

just look for delta lotto system on google or yahoo and see...

And i am wondering if you can use the reverse delta lotto system from the middle line on the spread of those numbers....The reverse delta lotto system from the middle line is in my recent blogs....

i thought about this thanks to kodak3535....

Reply #5

time*treat — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:02:00 GMT

A search on the word Delta will give you (mixed in with other uses of the word) discussions on this method all the way back to 2002.

Reply #4

ThatScaryChick — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:56:49 GMT

That is a different way to approach playing Pumpi! Thanks for the info.

Reply #3

pumpi76 — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:15:42 GMT

Exactly what i was saying Madkat....from 18-20 and up....This is a very unexplored area...

This is from the last 3 months...

Look at Ohio for the past 40 drawings it had: 18,23,27,31,37 on 2/12/2009 and on

20,31,32,34,38 on 1/15/2009...

in North Carolina you had:

Jan 24, 2009 18 - 29 - 30 - 33 - 34

for 289,000....

20 - 21 - 25 - 27 - 36 on januar1, 2009....

on february1, 2009 they had: 22 - 26 - 30 - 31 - 33 for 389,000 dollars...[look at the spread of this one, 11... [ More ]

Reply #2

MADKAT — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:13:32 GMT

I think pumpi is trying to say instead of wheeling numbers from 1-39 for a pick 5 game then why not start your wheel from say 18-39 or 20-39 to cut back on your combos and increase your chance of winning when a draw starts around 18-20. For example, in VA Cash 5 game it is a 5/34 the drawing on 2/6/09 DAY DRAW was 25,26,28,33,34. So if you would have wheeled say 25-34 then you would have won. Another example in VA is the past 40 draws have had 4 draws where it began at 15 or higher. So if you wh... [ More ]

Reply #1

hansol1968 — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:08:40 GMT

need a wheels that start whit 18+ wheels for pick 5

What about combinations that start with 18 + wheels for Pick5

pumpi76 — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:46:34 GMT

Why nobody uses wheels that start with 18 + wheels whether is abbreviated or not and then apply filters...You are more than likely to hit the Pick5 jackpot that way than to start with 5 or whatever number....

And then you apply the delta lotto system or commonly called row difference numbers....

and the reason they don't do it is because people want to win every jackpot a common scenario in lottery players...