Fingers and Toes, Here We Go!

Reply #16

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:34:41 GMT

I assume this game pays for matching 2-3-4 of the correct letters in the name.

Bob, Bill, Ernie, George, Betty, Barney,Wilma,Fred,Ethel,Lucy,Ricky

a = 2, b = 5, c = 1, d = 1, e = 9, f = 1, g = 2, i= 4, k=1, l=5, m=1,

n=2, o=2, r=5, t=3, u=1, w=1, y=4.

My six letter choices are e-b-r-l-i-y

RL

Reply #15

time*treat — Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:32:46 GMT

Whatever means used to label the ping-pong balls (for those states that still use real machines) [1,2,3,_ ... or Ralph, Norton, Trixie, _____ ... or Blonde, Blue, Brown, ______... or Short Line, B O, Reading, ____________], people will devise a system to look for patterns, and try to make their play do better than random.

Unless and until it demonstrates a better payout than the Digit Counters' Way (base 10) compared to what they are currently using, at best it will serve as an amusing distra... [ More ]

Reply #14

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Sat, 19 Feb 2011 03:59:03 GMT

jimmy

WOW!

Anyway, it's reassuring to know there are others here who enjoy playing the lottery while at the same time completely understanding the math and psychology behind it.

I knew you had a big head but this would be funny if it was not so sad. I would think you should have used

the phrase incompletely and totally misunderstand when speaking of yourself.

RL

Reply #13

jimmy4164 — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:15:32 GMT

Thanks Floyd. I love your humorous approach! You will probably enlighten more people than I do with mine. Anyway, it's reassuring to know there are others here who enjoy playing the lottery while at the same time completely understanding the math and psychology behind it. After they examine the 575757(ten) possible sets of the (5,39)(ten) lotto, it would be interesting to see what the digit counters will do with the distributions of the twenty digits of the Yup'iks and the 3 the Romans used to c... [ More ]

Reply #12

time*treat — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:57:42 GMT

I'm gonna bet on Betty.

Reply #11

KY Floyd — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:47:57 GMT

I've always been surprised how many people think that if the winning combination is 1,3,5,7,9 +11 they came oh so close if they played 1,2,3,4,6 +12. I figure they might understand intuitively if the balls were labeled Bob, Bill, Ernie, George, etc, but could still be easily confused if the balls were labeled Betty, Barney, Wilma, Fred, Ethel, Lucy and Ricky. Still, that doesn't confuse them nearly as much as when you tell them that 1+1 =10.

FWIW, the Romans used duodecimal for fractions.... [ More ]

Reply #10

KY Floyd — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:44:24 GMT

What is the Roman Numeral for zero for all the pick-3 and pick-4 players?

The Romans didn't have a numeral for zero, but instead used the Latin nulla, meaning nothing . That allowed for counting how many toes you had even after a gruesome chariot accident, but mathematically it's very different than zero. As a result their pick III game had odds of I in DCCXXIV, while pick IV was I in MMMMM MDLXI.

When counting on your toes, do you start with your left foot little to bigger and and rever... [ More ]

Reply #9

joker17 — Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:25:30 GMT

You have a system for this?......

https://blogs.lotterypost.com/truesee/2011/2/girl-born-with-12-fingers-and-14-toes.htm

Reply #8

jimmy4164 — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 03:52:18 GMT

Stack47 said, You should have taken Abe Lincoln's advice before answering a question about SAS.

Because I said, SAS isn't necessary. The simple, surefire way to ensure a jackpot win is to convince the lottery in question to remove all the balls from the machine which are NOT on your ticket before they start the spin!

Stack47, RL-RANDOMLOGIC, and RJOh should look up the meanings of Irony, Metaphor, and Sarcasm.

They miss a lot.

Reply #7

Stack47 — Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:44:42 GMT

if they were forced to play in a place where the balls were LABELED in one of these other BASES.

Almost every one of your topics starts off with an IF and then you go on and on as if it was a fact. IF all the Challenge players waged $3168 two or four times a week for a year or IF someone played the same number in every PA pick-3 drawing for over 30 years are prime examples. I can understand discussing something that is possible, but you start topics about things that are unrealistic nonsense... [ More ]

Reply #6

jimmy4164 — Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:51:19 GMT

You completely missed the point of the post that you commented on here. Earlier, you revealed your ignorance of the underlying purpose of the Thread.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

Abraham Lincoln (from Solomon's Proverbs

Reply #5

Stack47 — Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:42:23 GMT

if they were forced to play in a place where the balls were LABELED in one of these other BASES.

The lotteries have used the same number base for over 30 years and it works just fine for the lotteries and the players. I believe you're confusing lottery games with the Keno games in played in Reno, Nevada which has a large Chinese population. Many casinos placed the Chinese characters that represented each number on their Keno boards and maybe one or two casinos still does. It's possible Caesa... [ More ]

Reply #4

jimmy4164 — Sun, 13 Feb 2011 00:10:41 GMT

When they stop laughing, perhaps Stack47 and RL-RANDOMLOGIC can tell us what sort of adjustments they would propose to their Digit Based selection system if they were forced to play in a place where the balls were LABELED in one of these other BASES. Maybe, if they don't TELL the balls about their new labels, the balls could be tricked into performing just as they always have, allowing these 2 comedians to continue to make tons of money. Who knows, maybe one of these other ways of counting [with... [ More ]

Reply #3

Stack47 — Sat, 12 Feb 2011 23:01:33 GMT

RL,

Years ago I read about a way we could use our thumbs and fingers (or toes if someone's big toe was like a thumb) for multiplication and division, but it wasn't much different than memorizing the times tables back in grade school that we already knew.

It sure was nice of Jimmy to show us what the numbers would look like in 5/39 game using other number systems and I can't wait until I read where somebody says Had XXXVIII been drawn instead of XXXVII, I would have won the jackpot! .... [ More ]

Reply #2

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:55:53 GMT

Stack47

I think since we have 8 fingers and 2 thumbs I now know the science behind computer developement.

Eight fingers became digits which had two states closed or open. When the thumb is pressed to one

of the fingers then it is a digit high or 1 and when not touching it is open or a digit 0. This means that

256 different finger to thumb combinations can be made. Now all we would need is a list or code for

each of the combinations, something like ASCII or some other variant would... [ More ]

Reply #1

Stack47 — Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:02:17 GMT

My, what an interesting topic; I have several questions.

What is the Roman Numeral for zero for all the pick-3 and pick-4 players?

When counting on your toes, do you start with your left foot little to bigger and and reverse it on the right foot?

Have you ever got bored counting on your toes and played this little piggy went to market ?

Does big toe + little toe = wee wee wee, all the way home ?

Ever tickled yourself counting with your toes?

Ever thought about having the digits... [ More ]

Fingers and Toes, Here We Go!

jimmy4164 — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:05:25 GMT

Fingers and Toes, Here We Go!

Number systems adopted by people over the centuries have been based most often on the number of fingers and toes humans have evolved, but not all. Notable exceptions are the modern ones based on binary digits which are useful in the world of on/off conditions in electronic computers. For computational efficiency, before computers, a base Twelve system would have been a better choice for us than Ten. This article discusses the Base Twelve or Duodecimal system as w... [ More ]