HiJinx @ Craps Cost Wynn $700K + Letting It Slide Info

Reply #12

eddessaknight — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:28:02 GMT

Thanks again to our generous gentlemen of the gaming jury, with all the uncertainties we know for sure that dealers and pit bosses come and go but it's the players stay on forever

Next sucker.......

Fortuna

EddessaKnight

Reply #11

Stack47 — Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:41:33 GMT

Leo is a member of Team PokerStars though not exactly a famous name.

Greg Raymer was a high profile member and quit his affiliation a month or two before the chips hit the fan on April 15. Being a lawyer, maybe he questioned the legality of U.S. player accounts. PokerStars did payoff all the U.S. players so their problems are nothing compared to Full Tilt.

Steve Wynn formed a partnership with PokerStars for U.S. online poker when Congress ever gets around to passing the bill. Don't know th... [ More ]

Reply #10

LottoGuyBC — Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:43:56 GMT

apparently Leo Fernandez is a member of Team PokerStars and Veronica Dabul is a former sponsored player of PokerStars

another black eye for Poker Players

Reply #9

eddessaknight — Sun, 09 Oct 2011 21:44:21 GMT

eye in the rug ~Coin

Do appreciate these insider insights and do recall when camera eyes were installed into manaquin heads in depatment stores for xtra eyes on their fleeing merchandise.

Another scam/collusion story this one on Electronic Roulette. Cheaters have found ways of compromising semi auto roulette games like the very popular 'Rapid Roulette' stations. In this case involving a a mchine with a real ball wheel, a supervisor actively colluded with a gambler hit a button intended to... [ More ]

Reply #8

Coin Toss — Sat, 08 Oct 2011 21:38:02 GMT

esdessaknight,

How the insider scam was uncovered was not revealed but it's certain police will have more. Professional game scammers often make it a practice to hit new inexperienced properties and SIC BO is raely monitored like craps, roulette or baccarat.....

I would guess that despite all the trechnology it just might have been uncovered by an eye in the rug . When something is suspicious the casinos put surveillance on the floor.

Just a word on new properties, the casinos know th... [ More ]

Reply #7

eddessaknight — Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:48:57 GMT

Hello Coin, Stack gaming aficionados, et al-

The Global Gaming Conference Expo closed at the Sands Convention Center and I have returned with more interesting related 'cat mouse' stories to share.

The first is a collusion tale from a Sands source about their new Marina Bay Sands in Singapore. Seems that they were just taking the wrapper off the reort when a note worthy first of it's kind; the casino survellance officer was charged with cheating the Sands out of $150,000 via collusion w/acc... [ More ]

Reply #6

Coin Toss — Fri, 07 Oct 2011 05:17:52 GMT

Yeah, this story is real fishy.

Any roll where one or both dice never tunbled would be a no roll and the shooter would be given one more chance. If it happened again they wouldn't be allowed to roll the dice, maybe not to play craps.

When you're on the stick even some0one fiddleing with the dice to set them brings hit on you. HEY STICK, TELL HIM TO PICK THEM UP AND SHOOT THEM, NO SETTING THE DICE.

Reply #5

eddessaknight — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:16:31 GMT

Undertsand why the casino would keep table action tapes longer. Surprsied that the current high tech eye in the sky aided, balck book, abetted by Griffin Detective agency 'ID' not have the dynamic duo already visually 'made' (I D)

Ny humble undertstanding that part of the pit's responsibility to asses player's action if a table or player is not producing @ odds expectation then that is a flag to check out what went wrong with the game.....of course a major GEORGE $$$$ could be a major distrac... [ More ]

Reply #4

Stack47 — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 00:19:29 GMT

They probably keep all security tapes a week or more depending on the casino. For the gamblers in the Black Book or named on other security networks, it's probably much longer and that's probably why Wynn still had the tapes.

I knew a guy that claimed he could make one die be 6 80% of his rolls, but when he had the dice, the come out roll was 9 (6-3) and never neither die was above 4 until he finally rolled a 7 (6-1). I guess he just needed more practice, LOL

Reply #3

eddessaknight — Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:51:57 GMT

Thanks Stack, good to hear your good points again

L@@K long time since May for the casino to call tilt , no roll or stop thief LOL.

In your experience how long do casinos hold on to tapes?

Possible they were considerable 'George' ?

Where the dice are always rolling

EddessaKnight

Reply #2

Stack47 — Mon, 03 Oct 2011 13:54:17 GMT

The two are suspected of working with several unidentified customers who placed bets or distracted dealers and are accused of pulling off their gambit by using an infrequently seen technique known as dice sliding.

I ll bet there were casino personal involved too because it's the boxman's job to tell the shooter to hit the back wall when the dice continue to fall short. Just the fact the players were making large bets on 12 and 11 should have tipped off the boxman. It looks like the casino re... [ More ]

Reply #1

eddessaknight — Sun, 02 Oct 2011 18:43:58 GMT

Note Bene-

Hmm, sounds kind of fishy to me. These guys would have had to be unbelievably good to pull that off for that long and get away with that much money. Maybe they did, but maybe it's another case of a casino being a spoiled sport when someone manages to beat them long term. As many times as that casino has probably cheated others, maybe they are just finally reaping a little bit, you think?

Think about it!

EddessaKnight

HiJinx @ Craps Cost Wynn $700K + Letting It Slide Info

eddessaknight — Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:38:54 GMT

@ Coin et all craps players

July story now released??? Was this a big George couple? Wonder what their story is in @ casinos in Mar del Plata, Argentina? Enjoy

EddessaKnight

Couple accused of dice sliding at Wynn Las Vegas

While many craps aficionados scoff at the idea that a player can effectively control the roll of the dice, Wynn Las Vegas has become a believer. The Strip resort has filed a lawsuit in Clark County District Court against frequent customers Leonardo Fernandez and V... [ More ]