G.A.T. Engine 2.0

Reply #53

RJOh — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:54:11 GMT

And many times that good information leads different people to different conclusions.

Reply #52

dr san — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 21:06:01 GMT

Hello, lottoarquitet in studying the history of output, for sweepstakes and sweepstakes odd pair, get the number of hits that results to be obtained by choosing X number of groups more outgoing and late in the last N draws odd / even in previous 10 draws. example

124 = ......... result pair

125 =......... finished result in odd

Reply #51

dr san — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:15:38 GMT

Hello, the question is, how many will repeat the previous result,! For example, a lottery

49 / 6, if I bet with 4,5,6 equals the previous results, 98%, will not win!

Why give up to a maximum of three numbers, one could use it somehow as a base filter. Not living with this filter wheel has a maximum of 3 numbers from previous results,

The best prediction has to be playing 10 to 20. For a single event, it is impossible, but within this range, yes! The Math Factor and random, part of the f... [ More ]

Reply #50

lottoarchitect — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:07:09 GMT

In a true random event this can be said and being undisputable. In the case of lotteries, when managing to have 5x or 10x improvements over probability, this tells me they are related somehow and it is what I call reduced randomness and actually try to exploit. If you call it 5th or 6th cousins, so be it but they are related. Otherwise, there is absolutely no reason why I get such hit improvements, but they are there.

Reply #49

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 15:50:14 GMT

Any well done analysis of past draws will produce some very good information, The problem

is that good information and the next drawing are not related, well maybe 5th or 6th cousins.

Merry Christmas ALL

RL

Reply #48

RJOh — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 15:05:45 GMT

I'm not sure why you say GAT has nothing to do with previous drawings.

When I suggested it would be easy to construct a winning history using the data in the file since it had all the winning combinations and your response was there would be no other way to make a hit comparison test if the file was not there as if its only purpose was for comparison and not for coming up with anything associated with its winning history.

Reply #47

lottoarchitect — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:30:42 GMT

I'm not sure why you say GAT has nothing to do with previous drawings. It uses past draws equal to stat. data size defined to make a prediction. So, e.g. it uses draws 10-30 to evaluate draw 31 (which is a test draw), then draw 31 becomes part of that known set of draws used, so we now have the set 11-31 to predict draw 32 and this goes on till the end of the tested draws. Therefore, when predicting for the new draw to come, the same logic has been used through the whole set of tested draws and... [ More ]

Reply #46

RJOh — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:37:35 GMT

So even if what you say makes sense, it doesn't make sense to do simply because I'd be full of lawsuits for a fraud product by all my existing users

I wouldn't consider your program a fraud if it used the data to come up with a pattern of number selection which would have resulted in a number of wins above the norm if used for previous drawings and assumed it would do the same for future drawings. But if its numbers selection has nothing to do with previous drawings of the data file you use t... [ More ]

Reply #45

LANTERN — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 00:18:30 GMT

AT

That was a very good explanation and what I needed to understand it.

On hit patterns for filters, there is always a skips section at which from 1 to X skips 50% of the hits happen at, past that point it might be more unreliable or what ever the word is, as a particular pattern can stay very much over-due for-ever it seems like sometimes, some people play almost or max overdue patterns, I like best the 1 to X 50% skip hit gap, as it might be more predictable and reliable.

Also, there

Reply #44

lottoarchitect — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 00:15:20 GMT

I'm not sure what you propose here.

Reply #43

lottoarchitect — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 00:07:07 GMT

Think of a test run over 100 tested draws. Lets assume we have 20 hits produced, that means 20% success (our X). Then 100/X = 100/20 = 5 draws on average.

It would be ideal to have hits produced exactly every 5 draws but this is not the case generally. Some hits might be consecutive, some at 2 or 3 or 4 draws after a hit. Some can be at 6 or 7 or 8 draws after a hit. The least variation is the best possible to that. So, if we expect a hit in the range of 1-8 (can be observed by the red line a... [ More ]

Reply #42

LANTERN — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 00:04:07 GMT

From that as I thought it is best to have good strategies and combine GAT with them in order to better profit from the predictions and as always a lot of testing on paper might be best before money is spent.

Reply #41

LANTERN — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:59:03 GMT

AT

Thanks again!

Can you please explain again How to in practice best use the 100X rule? And also again What is it

Reply #40

dr san — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:58:31 GMT

Hello, lottoarchitect, playing over 10 up to 10 consecutive draws a lottery, it seems a good condition

Example of a lottery 40 / 5 = do 3 sets basic

1 game = 02,15,25,32 38 05,16,24,33,38 = 2nd game 3rd game = 07 13 27 34 40

Make a simulation up to 10 draws to see if the numbers 15 over 10 sweepstakes

They are grouped within the limit from 10 to 10 sweepstakes

Reply #39

lottoarchitect — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:51:33 GMT

Well, LottoSync I recall uses a monde carlo emulation. GAT uses something completely different and to be honest I don't think any prediction program is anywhere close to GATs logic. I don't know about maxHitPro. The 100/X rule is just an average estimation on when to expect a hit. This has nothing to do with the actual prediction process used but if we use statistics to display hits, this is the most common and easy rule to follow.

I was just informed by a user, he played $13.10 and got back... [ More ]

Reply #38

lottoarchitect — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:47:43 GMT

That's how reduced randomness works. A small set of consecutive draws can have apparent a relation (the common characteristic). The bare minimum would be 3 past draws so to be able and establish 3 points and evaluate it via a best-fit function to project what the 4th draw will be like based on that (GAT doesn't use any such analytical process, it is just an example to understand this statement). The more draws you add to that, the more averaged become the best-fit evaluation, therefore it cannot... [ More ]

Reply #37

LANTERN — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:47:37 GMT

To kind of follow what a person might call the Random probability line(s) that is what I think that it is all about, and those programs showed to me that they kind of do that better than quickpicks, perhaps your program is better.

Reply #36

LANTERN — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:39:52 GMT

Thanks a lot!

This all reminds me of Marco's LottoSync and also of an old program that was called MaxHitPro.

MaxHitPro seems to work in a similar way, but I migh be wrong and maybe in some way also LottoSync, since years ago I have retested MaxHitPro and I say that to mention it in regards to your program is a good thing, not a bad thing, while not perfect, it is very good taken into account the so called unpredictability of Random, or what is called that, also it is possible to use in way... [ More ]

Reply #35

RJOh — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:36:39 GMT

Anyone that says otherwise is pure BS.

Some would say this about any prediction program than claims to predict the outcome of a random lottery drawing regardless of the data it uses. The real test will come after someone is willing to pay for the use of the program and post their results at LP.

While there are plenty of lottery players who are willing to spend big money trying to win a lottery jackpot, they are only willing to share information about their successes and not their failures... [ More ]

Reply #34

lottoarchitect — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:29:06 GMT

Generally, if your hit category says e.g. X% success, you should play for the next 100/X draws predictions of that particular GAT. It can hit at the very next draw or a bit later than 100/X but you should expect it to be around there to give at least that hit category. Then, another GAT selection might be more appropriate. Of course if your GAT gives 80%+ success, you can keep using it way beyond than that.

Reply #33

LANTERN — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:27:09 GMT

Your saying that consecutive combinations-lines have or might have common characteristics, has made me wonder, cause many or more draws have common characteristics even if they are not consecutive, now I wonder what common characteristics might be more common to a set of 10 or more consecutive draws.

In the regular way I know about Signatures of combinations, but that seems like not quite the same thing, I guess.

Reply #32

LANTERN — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:20:09 GMT

So a prediction maybe can or should be played maybe for up to 10 draws

Reply #31

lottoarchitect — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:09:58 GMT

Well, this is why it is a good option to test e.g. 100 past draws instead of 5-10. GATs have cycles, where it can be particularly successful in predicting over a range of 20 draws, even hiting the winning combination, then calm down and then start hitting again. The graph displayed under each GAT table tries to visualize exactly that behaviour. We expect this behaviour displayed to continue in future draws, as it was produced during the prediction of the initial tested draws, since it has been o... [ More ]

Reply #30

LANTERN — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:25:13 GMT

Thanks very very much.

If it works as the past draws show on the software, it would maybe be the best that there is.

After all, people play for a chance to win the big-one and not so much for a profit on small prizes.

You know, what you ask for, for 1 year use is very reason-able if the software does produce as is backtesting on past draws shows and if a person has a good way of using the predicted numbers.

Perhaps many would at least at the beginning like to pay for 1/2 year instead... [ More ]

Reply #29

lottoarchitect — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:13:04 GMT

These results are when picking 4 numbers for the 4/35 and 1 number for the 1/35 field using the best GAT detected for each field in the future draws. The 3+ category also gives many 2 1 hits when not hitting 3+ correct (again above odds but didn't write down these results). You play a single ticket for each draw (4+1).

Reply #28

jimjwright — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:13:40 GMT

I don't play Pick3 or Pick4 just the big jackpot games. As far as predictions I have posted my predictions for years. I'm not afraid to fail in order to succeed but most people that SELL lottery software will never post predictions. 5x improvement in Powerball is nothing. I am not impressed.

Jimmy

Reply #27

LANTERN — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:25:04 GMT

AT

Thanks a lot!

That of course beats random by a lot!

For 3 numbers 5 times on 100 draws would be about 1 time every 20 draws, the bonus ball 14 times out of 100 draws = About once every 7 draws.

How many predicted numbers give these? One 5 numbers (4+1) line played each draw or what?

These then might perhaps be used together with other methods and or source of numbers and maybe properly wheeled in order to trap a higher prize like maybe a 4 or 4 + 1 prize or at least a 3 + 1, a

Reply #26

lottoarchitect — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:48:58 GMT

Thanks for the info Lantern, I made a few runs and GAT has managed to find in a test of the last 100 draws (using 500000 GAT tables)

- 64 times 1+ correct (1.6 times better)

- 19 times 2+ correct (3.4 times better)

- 5 times 3+ correct (about 21 times better)

For the powerball, using 750000 tables, it managed to predict it 14 times (4.9 times better). Particularly good was the case that it predicted it in a regular waiting pattern between 3 10 draws to hit again instead of 35 on aver... [ More ]

Reply #25

LANTERN — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:26:47 GMT

Jimmy Wright

Predraws can or not be taken into account.

Prediction-wise what connects or relates one event to another is Statistics

Not that any event might or might not have any Natural relation to any other event.

Things or events can be Forced to be related thru the use of statistics.

After all, Don't they say that One ping pong ball and or lottery number or draw doesn't have anything to do whatsoever with any-other ping pong ball and or lottery number or draw ?

Possi... [ More ]

Reply #24

jimjwright — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 05:42:04 GMT

His program looks good. I will say this though. Any software or user of software that does not take into account pre-draws if they exist for your game has no chance whatsoever in predicting anything in the future. Anyone that says otherwise is pure BS. Pre-draws change everything you thought you know about what is going to happen next.

Jimmy

Reply #23

lakerben — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 02:07:36 GMT

This seems like a great program. Hopefully this won't turn into a 10 page thread of nonsense. Stick to the program details and if people don't like an expanation use something else there is plenty of software on the market

Reply #22

LANTERN — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:07:24 GMT

AT

Here is the link to past draws for that game:

http://www.txlottery.org/export/sites/lottery/Games/Texas_Two_Step/Winning_Numbers/index.html_2013354932.html

Otherwise:

http://www.txlottery.org/export/sites/lottery/Games/Texas_Two_Step/Winning_Numbers/download.html

For detailed information about that game:

http://www.txlottery.org/export/sites/lottery/Games/Texas_Two_Step/How_to_Play_Texas_Two_Step.html

A hot link to the odds table of that game:

435 for 3 numbers right,

Reply #21

lottoarchitect — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:42:16 GMT

True and fair enough. Any tested draw which is to be predicted (and all following it) is of course not known prior the prediction of that draw and the statistics generated simply say how the engine managed in predicting that unknown draw to the engine till that point. There would be no other way to make that hits comparison test, so to display statistics if the tested draw isn't there for that comparison to be made! From this point of view, i am not afraid or being fraud about my claims or the h... [ More ]

Reply #20

RJOh — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:14:50 GMT

For most lotteries, you need to match at less three of the winning numbers to get a prize and anyone who have ever tried using a random number generators knows the odds of during that are the same as those posted on the back of play slips.

Unfortunately when data is imported from a lottery file into a prediction program it has all the information it needs to construct a history that shows it would have predicted more winners than could have been using a random number generator, so the real te... [ More ]

Reply #19

garyo1954 — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:09:48 GMT

You still haven't any of the questions.

You have claimed I know nothing of programming, nothing of math, I'm a complainer, and now you question what I learned in life. Well, I don't appreciate that. But then again, you haven't proved you have any reputation, so I guess we're even.

I've asked questions and made observations that will help people decide whether they might be able to use this piece of crippleware. You are avoiding them. Why?

In your analogy, you try on a dress. You... [ More ]

Reply #18

lottoarchitect — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:18:34 GMT

You either don't understand what the information shown represents or you try to make arguments just for the sake of it.

I tie up a computer for 12 - 24 hours only to learn I can't see the predictions, which is the only reason I'm trying the program. Is that a good deal?

You run the program so to evaluate the hits produced. You don't need to see actual predicted numbers for that evaluation. It is indeed a very good deal that I allow that testing and hits evaluation. This gives me the im... [ More ]

Reply #17

garyo1954 — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:48:35 GMT

Lottoarch, those are some very good answers. That clarifies a lot. But that is not what you say on your homepage. There it says, It is fully operational to all its features, except for the display of predictions.

So a free test might take 12 - 24 hours to run but to see the predictions, which is what the program is based on, one has to buy it. Let me think about this.

I tie up a computer for 12 - 24 hours only to learn I can't see the predictions, which is the only reason I'm trying the p... [ More ]

Reply #16

lottoarchitect — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:25:32 GMT

Lantern, do you have a link to that lotto game you display here? I'd like to test it. Looks like a 4/35 + 1 Powerball game. You can get even better hits by increasing the GAT tables involved.

As per how to use that information, on the pic you posted you see columns named 1-, 2- etc. These represent the hits category. So, the 3- column refers to match at least 3 correct numbers and the number next to it, shows how many times we have managed this hit category over the tested draws. Below is the... [ More ]

Reply #15

dr san — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:56:17 GMT

Hello green, this study! See the pairs and trios to come out more and leave less of a lottery

And join them with a good filter system basis, and continue to play them for a long time!

That is to repeat the game for a long time, not to walk in circles in the forecast

Reply #14

lottoarchitect — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:07:28 GMT

Test it for free means you get a full hits analysis of hits produced over your history exactly as if you were using the program for any of those tested draws - no need for actual predicted numbers or paying to test this. There is a summary and a graph showing exactly what you'd get if playing a suggested prediction over your real history. This is free testing of what is can do for you to almost the full possible extend. You shouldn't compain about that.

Elementary maths state that 100 + 2 * 2... [ More ]

Reply #13

LANTERN — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:55:34 GMT

Links to paid for software can't be posted as it is against the LP rules.

There are no defined lotteries on the program, but it is very easy to make lotteries.

The draws import function is very good, so it is easy to import past draws into the program, just copy from the TLC site onto a text file and the program wil easily import the draws onto it, here is a short sample:

12/19/2011 1 12 20 33 29

12/15/2011 8 20 29 30 22

12/12/2011 6 15 26 33 25

12/08/2011 13 18 20 32 24

12... [ More ]

Reply #12

garyo1954 — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 04:20:10 GMT

Lottoarch,

I'm going to pass on your offer to test it for free, since you require payment before the program will display the final analysis, and once a subscription is processed there is no refund. It sounds too much like I'm buying something just to try it for free.

FREE doesn't mean paying 40 Euros with no refund. Not in English. So before I even consider buying your program to look at it for free, I have a few questions......

Is G.A.T. going to come with my lottery ready to run or d... [ More ]

Reply #11

lottoarchitect — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 03:10:20 GMT

As I said, being a developer means I have tons of development work to do. I run predictions for my own lotto game. If there is some free time to run predictions here I'll post them as well (I did already). I can't dedicate a software development computer to run predictions regularly just to tease your appetite. This is why I allow testing it and observe the full hit statistics analysis so to see for yourself what it can do for you - I'm sure you'll see what I see all these years working on this... [ More ]

Reply #10

garyo1954 — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 02:42:12 GMT

Notice first, I CONGRATULATED you on this? You did see that?

But let's look at what you just said before you start with me. Did you not say, limited time to dedicate a computer to run predictions. Whoops!

Yep. You said it. So my question is valid. Why spend 2 years, (yep I searched the last posting on GAT was in 2009) if you can't find the time, or have a computer to dedicate to using it?

My second question is valid. Why announce it especially if you aren't going to share it? And if you... [ More ]

Reply #9

lottoarchitect — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:45:23 GMT

Mr garyo, if you are a developer you would know what I am talking about, you are not so I disregard your comment as very poor and unconsidered. I never said I do not have the time to run my program. I use it for my own lotto game. This is why I developed it in first place. Being generous enough to offer this to public so to benefit as well is not something that should get a response like yours. You can always test it and then come back and if you still believe what you say, say so, as everyone e... [ More ]

Reply #8

LANTERN — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:40:32 GMT

Maybe:

1: This software making thing is not his source of income.

He might have worked on it on some of his spare time.

He can't use predictions for USA lotto games.

He would better run predictions for games that he himself can bet on.

It takes time to set a program to run regular predictions, it might not be a one time set-up, but it might take some time to do everyday, maybe, unless it can be automated in some way, including the getting of the new winning draws and the updating... [ More ]

Reply #7

garyo1954 — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:08:52 GMT

Wait! What?

You developed a prediction software and don't have the computer to run it?

How does that work for you? O_o!?!

What was the purpose of spending two years working on a project you can't find the time to run?

And why announce it?

WOW!!!!!!!

JUST WOW!!!!!

Oh..............wow.

Reply #6

lottoarchitect — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:55:42 GMT

I'll run predictions for the fun part of it, since I cannot play any of the lotto games supported here. Besides, the program on its own gives complete statistics on hits performance over the real history of the game analyzed, so you don't really need me to post predictions to prove something, you can do this by yourself on your prefered game. The case is not the metal to do it or not, rather the limited time to dedicate a computer to run predictions on a regular basis whilst developing. Anyway,... [ More ]

Reply #5

jimjwright — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:41:10 GMT

Yes, I agree with RJOH, using the prediction boards is an easy way for you prove your claims and get people excited about your new engine! I use the prediction boards to track my progress of my prediction software. The question is do you have the metal to do the same. I kinda of doubt it but prove us wrong. JADELOTTERY has shown that playing fixed numbers 0-0-0, 0-0-0-0 can be profitable for a year.

Jimmy

Reply #4

garyo1954 — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:17:39 GMT

Congratulations

Reply #3

RJOh — Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:55:57 GMT

Now that you have developed a prediction engine, I'll be checking the prediction board to see how well your predictions are doing. Hopefully you will post some winning MM or PB predictions and help some of us win some Christmas money. Good luck

Reply #2

lottoarchitect — Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:49:45 GMT

I think it was around 2005-6 when this was first mentioned. Older members will remember these discussions back then. There are a couple posts left from back then around here. Not sure how to find them though, the search here can't recognize the term GAT although the posts contain that word.

Reply #1

lakerben — Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:24:46 GMT

When

G.A.T. Engine 2.0

lottoarchitect — Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:51:05 GMT

Greetings to everyone,

you may recall a while back discussions about a prediction engine called GAT. I'm in the position to announce a public release has been finally made available! Prediction accuracy is in the range 2x-a few thousand better compared to chance. For powerballs, a boost about 2x-4x better is not uncommon. The engine can take into account any bonus balls of the game analyzed, if so desired, which further improves hits. As always, the best description of what it can do, is to t... [ More ]