Anyone with ideas on red black at roulette?

Reply #50

SergeM — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:22:30 GMT

I will read it later.

To my knowledge there is no system, but there are system players.

How do systems come to life? I made the experience that some players reacted to my comments on the games and results.

When something wasn't hitting for longer time, some players started playing that and hedged by covering the chances around.

I heard one croupier comment that he hadn't seen a repetition for many games. The indication is enough for some players to

find the correct number repea... [ More ]

Reply #49

jimmy4164 — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:27:17 GMT

Serge,

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Reply #48

Boney526 — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:37:26 GMT

I'm not talking about the short sessions. Of course you can win in a short session.

But you'll never beat the game's edge without exploiting biases in the wheel. Or experimenting with wheel clocking, both of which I doubt could be pulled off in a real casino for any serious amount of money.

Reply #47

SergeM — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:45:19 GMT

Jeu 0, 4 pieces.

There are no sloppy dealers only sloppy players

Reply #46

smooth11484 — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:36:35 GMT

sorry boney i am a fequent roulette player at the casino ive won 1100 in 2 hours but also lost 2500 in 3 hours so you are right its all about chance there are safe bets to win a little here and there but i did see a regualar big shot loose big but also hittn for 12.5k in 3 spins because 26 litterally fell 3 times in a row. roulette a scary game but if you get lucky and put lots of money on that 1 number and it falls youll be a winner

Reply #45

Boney526 — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:27:41 GMT

I can't literally say there are no proffesional roulette players, but there are essentially no proffesional roulette players. Don't be fooled by these systems . The only way to beat roulette is through physics and statistics, plain and simple.

Either Wheel Clocking (get the technique down, find a sloppy dealer) or wheel bias (good luck finding that, maybe it's possible in Europe.) And then size your bets appropriately, or you're going to lose anyway.

Either way, those are unreali... [ More ]

Reply #44

SergeM — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:31:13 GMT

1) If you don't win the first round, you are out of money;

2) if you lost the second round, you are in deficit;

3) it didn't work on my sample with 3 plays.

4) I found something that worked, but that isn't related to your system.

5) I am not a pro gambler, but have seen professionals playing.

Reply #43

eddessaknight — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:28:24 GMT

Serge, Do appreciate the reponse with valuable analytical feedback

Did you have a chance to check out these potential occurances vs Speilbank etc.???

Naturally best to get a hit stop a winner within 3 to 5 spins (using 0/00 wheel)

Agree, a mild progression needed on 7 numbers : ex 1- 1-1 -2- 2

Spin 1 +29 Chips

Spin 2 +22

Spin 3 +16

Spin 4 + 37

Spin 6 + 23

Subtotals Average = profit @ approx 25 units so a winning strike of 66% is required to make a profit

Serge as yo... [ More ]

Reply #42

SergeM — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:38:04 GMT

30 spins history:

7 first non repeating numbers to play, spin 31 to 38.

Budget needed: 7*8*2 euro = 112 euros

7*8=56 straight bets. Win: 35+1=36, 36*2 = 72 euros.

You need to win latest with the fifth spin, spin 35, to break even.

After that you need to raise the bet for spin 7 and/or 8.

With the raise your budget is 7b*2e*5s+7b*4e*3s= 154.

Reply #41

eddessaknight — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:13:39 GMT

Reply #40

eddessaknight — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:56:38 GMT

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Reply #39

maximumfun — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:21:46 GMT

LOL

Reply #38

Peter00 — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:15:57 GMT

free spin means:

lets say i'm in a.c. and no one is at the table beting . i would have to pay for every spin . they dont roll the ball without money on the table.

at the racino you dont have to . you put money into the machine but dont bet and the wheel spins .

in other words you can watch the game progress without actually betting...

AS FOR DOUBLING UP.....

its a system that works if you have the money for it

a better system is to play for better pay outs like 3:1 like ro... [ More ]

Reply #37

Boney526 — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:54:09 GMT

What do you mean by you get free spins

Reply #36

Peter00 — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:08:38 GMT

casino next to me is completelty automated. no real dealers. also you get free spins on roulete where there are no people and noone betting. so all you realy need is a great system...

Reply #35

helpmewin — Tue, 05 Jun 2012 21:15:02 GMT

Red

Reply #34

marcie — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:56:30 GMT

Ok, thanks

Reply #33

marcie — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 16:54:54 GMT

Ok, I see you can only bet 0 thur 36 I found that out yesterday when watching everyone play at the Casino. I didn't play I just watched. So 2,5,19,17

Reply #32

LottoGuyBC — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:35:43 GMT

I usually only focus on the 2nd Column 3rd Column.

When the numbers lands in those ranges. Usually Win or atleast Break Even.

When the numbers lands outside those ranges. Ends up Losing.

Reply #31

Coin Toss — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:56:56 GMT

Youve' got it, Boney526.

Double up (usually it's double up, not triple) and catch up systems are called Martingales . They are darlings of sytem sellers and usually come with a yarn that's an exercise in sell the sizzle and not the steak. My parents had to escape from Cuba and to pay for passage on a boat taught the boat captain this system.....

One of the reasons for house limits is to to kill these kind of systems systems and make sure that someone with very deep pockets couldn't ensure... [ More ]

Reply #30

Boney526 — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 00:07:08 GMT

If you do the math, you'll find that you have a bigger expected loss using such a system, because you'll be very likely to win small amounts, but have a small chance of losing enormous amounts.

Think about 6 losses.

The first time you lose 5, then 15, 45, 135, 405, 1215 for a total loss of 1820.

Reply #29

topnail — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:52:21 GMT

that is what i say you need to have bankroll to win it

Reply #28

Boney526 — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 20:28:48 GMT

That's a sure way to lose a lot if you get a little losing streak.

Reply #27

topnail — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 20:24:20 GMT

make sure are triple every hand after lost not double

double it dont make you much

if you win then back to normal like your first hand bet

that make sense

Reply #26

topnail — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 20:20:24 GMT

Boney526

make sure there is no house limit and you have the bankroll to rock

Triple up after your first hand lost.............. till you win

the more hand you lost and the more you win

that is the way i m make money from sports book

take the good team are better change

Reply #25

Boney526 — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 17:03:06 GMT

I have no idea what you were attempting to say, topnail.

But no, even if you found a game with no house edge and betting limits, it won't make you a winner. It won't give you an edge.

The only way to have an edge is for the average expected return to swing in the PLAYERS favor, which is only possible in a few games.

Reply #24

SergeM — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:34:04 GMT

There is a thought that goes like this:

I go play and eventually double my money.

If I want to, I keep playing, but I must leave with 130% or more of my initial bankroll.

Reply #23

SergeM — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:27:56 GMT

There is a probability for this.

You seem to be sure, are you referring to some only casino

Reply #22

topnail — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:54:12 GMT

the problem is can you stop to play when you make 30 dollars and go home

if you can do it,you are gamble for living

we can not beat the house because there is always a limit

if any one can find any game with50/50 no limits

and you have a bankroll,and you are always the winner depend how much you want to win by day

Reply #21

Boney526 — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:39:40 GMT

Counting cards cannot give you sure income, because of the nature of gambling. It does shift the edge to the player if done properly. You have to find the best playing conditions and actually be proffecient in basic strategy, counting ability and strategy changes based on the count, along with being able to bet big when the count warrants it and sustain the bad losses that will probably happen on some of your days.

And at the end of it all, you've got to pay your taxes as well. All of th... [ More ]

Reply #20

Stack47 — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:23:38 GMT

On American Roulette tables by betting 2 sixes (7-12 and 25-30) and the zero/double zero split, you're covering 7 consecutive number slots on two opposite sides of the wheel. To equalize the bets, put 3 chips on each of the sixes and 1 on the split and the payoff always 18 chips.

Reply #19

Stack47 — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:56:27 GMT

Parlaying streaks is just a method of play used in any game with an even money payoff. It won't beat the house edge in the long run, but it's possible to make a small profit in a short term if the player is smart enough to leave the table.

Reply #18

SergeM — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:33:21 GMT

I would play every day, if I would be sure to win 30 every day average. That is 30*30=900 a month above income, and tax free. You need nerves to do that

Reply #17

SergeM — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:30:31 GMT

31 to 36 are the last six, les six derniers. You can play that with one chip on the side, transversale simple.

The finest game would be to play straight on the numbers all the time.

I once saw a law student in Brussels playing 17 only for cents for two hours on the roulette machine.

Many players have favourite numbers.

Reply #16

SergeM — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:24:29 GMT

I have an analystical program for Roulette in Excel. It combines spreadsheetfunctions and VBA.

With my experience as croupier and player, I notice several differences in sequences that some call the permanence.

When the game is too obvious, it might happen that an inspector or pit boss is switching the dealer.

I will try some legal online gaming during the summer.

10 times a column in a row, that is possible. Somehow players manage to lose their winnings when they raise the bet... [ More ]

Reply #15

Boney526 — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:07:35 GMT

Counting wouldn't work at all against a shuffling machine. (Well maybe with a ridculously huge bet spread, but that's basically irrelevant because it's practically impossible)

You don't need a massive bankroll to play blackjack, just a big one if you want to do it professionally. Professionally meaning that you do it as a sole source of income, so you can't afford to lose the bankroll.

Reply #14

Coin Toss — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 03:49:15 GMT

A very attractive woman is watching a hi-roller playing roulette and he has quite a few chips in front of him. He notices her and gives her a $100 one and says, Bet this on your age, I have a feeling it's going to hit. She puts it on 26. The ball lands on 36 and she passes out.

Reply #13

weshar75 — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:49:59 GMT

I won $375 playing 31,32,33,34,35,36 at $5 each and getting a hot streak on the roulette wheel at the casino. I like roulette but I play slots more. Good luck!-weshar75

P.S. I seen a guy win over $900 on playing the number 17 over and over again for $20 or more there were a lot of chips on that number because his friend playing it too and it came in back to back on the wheel.-weshar75

Reply #12

Peter00 — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:40:37 GMT

red /black high/low and odd/even when reach 4 in a row usually DO switch .

never chase in roulette. not worth it, ther are three 50/50 games going on. and the switch after 4 happens faster than a single game.

(if you dont beleive write a proram that maps the trends and using random number generation in the roulette set of numbers

and watch the magic)

used in conjucntion with the 1-12/13-24/36 columns and 1,2,3 rows help narrow down for less bets more wins.

rows and columns usually... [ More ]

Reply #11

SergeM — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:24:24 GMT

Counting cards will not help much with the shuffle machine, I think. You need a bigger bankroll to play BJ.

At roulette you can do with 4 to 5 chips if you don't lose the first rounds.

Reply #10

JonnyBgood07 — Thu, 31 May 2012 22:19:56 GMT

21 23 or 27

Reply #9

Boney526 — Thu, 31 May 2012 22:14:54 GMT

2/38, not 2/37, but your point is taken.

European roulette, when compared to lottery has a lower house edge. (about 20X lower!) Blackjack, when played by basic strategy with decent rules has between a .25-.5% house edge. Counting cards can actually swing blackjack in the players favor. That's why I wouldn't play roulette, because I can go to a Blackjack table, count the cards and bet when the odds favor me, rather than the house.

Reply #8

SergeM — Thu, 31 May 2012 21:17:40 GMT

I wouldn't bet on an American wheel, because of 2/37 bank advantage against 1/37 for traditional wheels.

The expectancy for roulette is 97%, for a pick 3 it is 50%, for keno it is around 48% here. I wouldn't dare putting roulette in a bad light! Some say that bj is better, you win some, you lose some.

Spins are related as in a sequence. You have to consider the circumstances. I once played 420 spins with the same first bankroll.

Reply #7

SergeM — Thu, 31 May 2012 21:07:10 GMT

This mathematically is ending in a loss of 3% average.

It might work on random.org, but then in fact, random.org gives a non mathematical random.

Reply #6

SergeM — Thu, 31 May 2012 21:05:02 GMT

Yes, like RBZ, red, black, zero, for example.

Might be a remote viewing technique, or just gambling.

Reply #5

Boney526 — Thu, 31 May 2012 20:57:09 GMT

The correct bet is 0 dollars on anything.

Actually the correct bet is to bank the game. No player can overcome the 5.26% house edge (on American Roulette) without exploiting exetreme wheel bias, which is unlikely to exist in any serious casino. And finding bias to a 99% confidence level takes (if I remember correctly) 20000 recorded spins.

Every spin is independent of every other spin. They are not related. NO BETTING SYSTEM CAN BEAT IT, but it's house edge is far, far, lower tha... [ More ]

Reply #4

mglsr — Thu, 31 May 2012 16:08:02 GMT

Play the same color until it changes; you are always looking to play the trend in roulette. Most people walk up to table and see 5 reds in a row and bet black; the correct bet would be red.....

Reply #3

Stack47 — Thu, 31 May 2012 16:02:21 GMT

I saw players parlaying their initial bet trying for a streak of 3 or 4 in a row; betting $10 to win $70 or $150. The same can be done by betting odd/even or high/low.

Reply #2

SergeM — Thu, 31 May 2012 15:37:31 GMT

That's 0 to 36.

Reply #1

marcie — Thu, 31 May 2012 12:31:35 GMT

I am thinking about play that at the Casino. 2,19,55, 5,28,71

Anyone with ideas on red black at roulette?

SergeM — Thu, 31 May 2012 12:07:13 GMT

Anyone with ideas on red black play at roulette