Problematic positions

Reply #46

manual — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 00:03:50 GMT

That's odd... Do you have cookies enabled? What browser are you using

Reply #45

Rakster — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:01:27 GMT

cleared my cache and still getting the same message

Reply #44

manual — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:25:54 GMT

You might try clearing your cache. The page loads fine for me.

Reply #43

Rakster — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:42:29 GMT

This is what I get from that link...

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Reply #42

Rakster — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 07:02:43 GMT

Do you have a link to your deviation system? The one you posted on page two brings me to a page of gibberish...lol thanks

Reply #41

manual — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:11:25 GMT

No win tonight :( 092 hit. I had 292, 392, and 492. Oh well, the odds of winning three days in a row was slim. But, it did me an idea on how to mod the system further.

Reply #40

kreative1 — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:25:16 GMT

woooohoooo

Reply #39

manual — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:16:48 GMT

hah! 490 FL Eve, another hit

Reply #38

manual — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:45:36 GMT

argh... 028 hit mid in Florida...

Deviation 85 for 2/10 came up with: 029 031 039 041 049 821 829 830 831 839 841 849 920 921 929 930 940 941 949

Another close call. Oh well, maybe tonight.

Reply #37

manual — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:18:35 GMT

I can get it running fine without that second draw. That's the problem, the second draw won't be there on any future drawings. It'lll be a bit confusing because on the initial population, the second draw will be there since I'm importing the complete list. But from the data import date forward, it'll just be the mid/eve draws, no second.

Reply #36

kreative1 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:14:51 GMT

oh I'm sorry,I did see you post that

can you ignore the second draw or is it how you get the info into your site

Reply #35

manual — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:04:01 GMT

Soon as I figure out how to handle the double draw deal, I'll add it.

Reply #34

kreative1 — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:00:35 GMT

woooohoooo!

can you add pa to your deviations

Reply #33

manual — Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:10:36 GMT

Deviations got me win #3 midday today.

Reply #32

manual — Sun, 10 Feb 2013 05:23:55 GMT

So much for position 1 being the easy one. 773 hit mid today. I played 873 for .50. That's what I get for getting ballsy after only two wins.

Reply #31

helpmewin — Sat, 09 Feb 2013 03:58:50 GMT

WTG

Reply #30

kreative1 — Sat, 09 Feb 2013 03:49:13 GMT

woooooohooooooooooo

congrats on your win

Reply #29

manual — Sat, 09 Feb 2013 03:31:27 GMT

Got another win tonight with deviations. If I had just played the numbers from the 6th, that would've been 3 wins this week.

I'm currently working on a SQL script that will run through 300 deviations to see which ones are trending. It's been a PITA to get working but the data looks interesting. You can actually see some deviations moving up, hitting, and then going away. Crazy stuff. Still a lot of back testing to do though.

Reply #28

kreative1 — Thu, 07 Feb 2013 03:10:43 GMT

that was quick!

I'm gonna try it out right now

Reply #27

manual — Thu, 07 Feb 2013 03:01:59 GMT

I started a quick and dirty proof of concept. Picked four random systems... Should be interesting testing.

http://lottodrawodds.com/pick3/system13.aspx

Reply #26

manual — Thu, 07 Feb 2013 01:16:55 GMT

argh... A deviation of 40 has been hitting well this month. Running the system for 2/6 had a base number of 336. Add the normal +/- 1 wheel... 326 hit tonight in FL. I played the numbers from 2/3 since it hasn't hit and it usually takes a couple of days before a hit occurs.

Reply #25

kreative1 — Thu, 07 Feb 2013 01:06:54 GMT

awesome!

I hope it's not a bugger to do and I can't wait to try it!

comparing apples to oranges just might produce the plum..or cherry..or kiwi ..hopefully not grapes

ok that's a banana but that was my only option lol

Reply #24

manual — Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:40:58 GMT

Was trying out numbers for multiple systems to see if anything turned up. Lakerben's Flow Down and my Deviations came up with 720 and 730. It'll be interesting if that hits anytime soon.

I thought of this a little while back and kreative1 brought it up again. It'll take some doing but I might code a page that lists results from multiple systems to see if there is any overlap (and if those numbers ever hit). With most systems, comparing one to the other is like comparing apples to oranges but... [ More ]

Reply #23

manual — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:55:35 GMT

This is the first system on the site that needs historical data to work. So you have to select a date/game on the right and then play with the deviations.

Reply #22

CarliG — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:40:08 GMT

Manual , just me again lol

It asks for days to deviate and then says zero set and 0 base set .

I tried several different days to deviate

what am I doing wrong ??

Thanks

Carlig

Reply #21

manual — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 19:16:48 GMT

Okay, I have it uploaded. Just don't forget to play with the deviations to see what's been hitting recently. Every time I find a good one, it goes cold, so it's important to keep switching it up.

http://lottodrawodds.com/pick3/system12.aspx

Reply #20

bootleg233 — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 10:52:23 GMT

Well cmon manual get-r-loaded!! LOL how can I test without the program on your site? Lmao.......waiting patiently........lol just bothering ya hope it goes good

Reply #19

manual — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 05:45:32 GMT

The idea is to figure out how the game got to the second number, from the one before it. I coded this system for my site, just haven't uploaded it yet. That iteration is doing deviations based on just EVE drawings. Thus far, having some good results but we'll see. The downside is that a contant workout has to be done. A deviation will hit for a bit and then go cold. So back testing a week has to happen frequently before a set/wheel can be played.

Reply #18

CarliG — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 04:51:46 GMT

Question .

On this statement below .. You say subtract FROM number above so why wouldnt it be 4 - 2 instead of 2 - 4

or am I over simplifying it ?

Thanks

CG

Pos1/Pos2/Pos3: These are just the winning draws that occurred on the date to the left (for FL).

Dev1-/Dev2-/Dev3-: Simply subtract the number is Pos X from the number above it. For example, for the second row. 2 - 4 = 8 (using lotto math)

Dev1+/Dev2+/Dev3+: Same as the Dev- (above) but it's adding the two positions... [ More ]

Reply #17

CarliG — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 04:44:47 GMT

Very Nice Manual.

Havent read the thread yet , but guess I better take a few minutes and read through it.

Didnt realize till now that you were in Florida ..

Carlig

Reply #16

manual — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 04:30:40 GMT

Decided to take a chance on the deviations today.

I was down to $11 in my account after playing the [27] sets for both draws today. First time I've played the simplified deviation system. Got pretty lucky.

Reply #15

manual — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:40:22 GMT

Honestly, I don't know. I haven't heard of the matix system. I'm a programmer so when I think of systems, I tend to dive into data. For Lotto, that's historical numbers that were drawn. From there, I've been trying to think of how to use that data. The idea I've been running with is deviations. Some deviations do occur more than others (just has some numbers run hot). So if that's the case, why not use the top hitting deviations [for each position] and apply it to the last drawn number? In any c... [ More ]

Reply #14

adobea78 — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 05:27:47 GMT

Hi manual, you are on to something, and like your approach, but want to stretch a bit further. What's the difference between this deviation system from matrix (arrays) using the digit analysis of each state? The digit analysis gives the positions of digits by frequency within certain time frame(You can set range), with this you can set up your matrix

I was on your site testing 'manual test'( I presume not deviation method), I had some interesting found, not by entering the draw set, I had to... [ More ]

Reply #13

lakerben — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:57:43 GMT

IN NM and other states the pairs repeat(see the 17 flipped to 71) . I make a list of recent pairs and then decide on the freguency as to when and how to use them.

Reply #12

LottoBoner — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:45:57 GMT

So what you are saying is that position one is more predictable than the other positions? Not that it hits more because that would be

I did not read the whole thing because too much math is a turn off for me.

I like to just K.I.S. , and i think random is kind of broken in the pick 3, as opposed to the pick 5.

Pick 3 is pseudorandom because of the three machines.

What ever that means.

Reply #11

manual — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 03:42:48 GMT

I'm using historical data. Thus far, just with FL's data because that's where I live and that's the data I have loaded in my local database. The system could be applied to any state/pick 3 game. However, it does require historical data.

It's very true that digits are random. But, I can run all kinds of tests rather quickly with SQL queries. With that in mind, I can check what deviations are occurring for any given time frame. Some deviations occur more than others, for each position, dependin... [ More ]

Reply #10

lakerben — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 03:42:08 GMT

Depending on the state short term historical data will do just fine.

In NM digits repeat several times in the same position. Look at the number 2 hitting more than once in position 1 and 3. And the number 7 hit postion one four times since Jan 11th.

Sat, Feb 2, 2013 7-0-7?Prize Payouts

Fri, Feb 1, 2013 5-6-0?Prize Payouts

Thu, Jan 31, 2013 7-8-0?Prize Payouts

Wed, Jan 30, 2013 2-4-4?Prize Payouts

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 2-4-2?Prize Payouts

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 2-4-4?Prize... [ More ]

Reply #9

adobea78 — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 03:33:12 GMT

Is your deviation system specific for a State (FL) or P3 in general? Are you using historical data in locating Pos 1,2,3? I am just curious. If positions are based on historical data, then you need to give a thought about finding a code or method to generate the first two positions based on draw set which is independent of historical draw. Let me put it this way, say I have a system that generates 3 digits based on drawn set , and these digits is frequently in positions 1 and 2 , then I will be

Reply #8

manual — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:55:49 GMT

Hey, I don't have an explanation for it. That's the reason for this post. I've just gone through several versions of deviations at this point and position 1 seems to hit, spot on, more often than the other two. Position 3 seems to be the worst. It could be one off or five... Just using the above example, the exact single set hit several times withing a month. So $30-$40 would equal a win enough to make a profit except for Position 3 would typically be the culprit for a loss, being off just one.... [ More ]

Reply #7

lakerben — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:37:00 GMT

NM draws from last week. Using the avedev function again.

2 4 2

2 4 4

0 0 1

Now I changed to a +123 RUNDOWN.

aND A HIT 560 TWO DRAWS LATER.

0 0 1

1 2 4

2 4 7

3 6 0

4 8 3

5 0 6

6 2 9

7 4 2

8 6 5

Reply #6

lakerben — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 02:16:57 GMT

I took the avedev of the last 2 NM draws.

7 0 7

5 6 0

1 3 3.5

I rounded up the 3.5 to 4 and did a +111 rundown. I used this method recently and it works.

1 3 4

2 4 5

3 5 6

4 6 7

5 7 8

6 8 9

7 9 0

8 0 1

9 1 2

Reply #5

retxx — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 01:30:17 GMT

This would be a perfect setup for Carlig to do. She is very good at her trade. Right Carli

Reply #4

LottoBoner — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 00:28:21 GMT

Position 1 seems to be the easiest to guess at. In all of my trials, this one seems to hit the most often.

ΨΗΑΤ?

How can one position hit more then the others

Reply #3

adobea78 — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:55:55 GMT

I am not a programmer , but I understantand permutations. You try incremental approach bearing in mind nCr and nPr relation.

Now with 3 digits the permuation is straight forward 3P2 for 6 combos, increase to 4P2 for 12 combos 5P2 for 20 , 6P2 for 30 ...........P(n,r). I want you to consider this logic and modify certain parameters in your data: Supposing you can generate 2 digits out of 3 always (you must have a trigger /code to locate that), then your missing digits becomes optional, someone... [ More ]

Reply #2

kreative1 — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:55:48 GMT

I read it manual, I just didn't know how to help you since I don't know about programming

I'm good at testing it though! lol

Reply #1

manual — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:49:15 GMT

No comments? Bummer

In any case, I've done some testing. Tried various combinations from +/- each position to overloarding each position. So far, it looks like a simple +/- to each postion gives the best results.

Problematic positions

manual — Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:41:49 GMT

This may very well apply to other games but I'm concentrating on Pick 3; better odds and all that. I'm curious what other system creator experiences are with the three positions. Position 1 seems to be the easiest to guess at. In all of my trials, this one seems to hit the most often. I'll use a very simplified version of my Deviation System for the example. First, an explanation of what you're looking at:

Pos1/Pos2/Pos3: These are just the winning draws that occurred on the date to the left... [ More ]