Some jackpot games filters ideas

Reply #41

MonEl — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:44:43 GMT

Since people are closing the thread, so now on my part it is also closed.

It was pretty much already finished anyway, since the last filter posted was probably the last one that I was going to post about here, now if those posts had come sometime before, then the thread would have been closed before its time.

There are many other good filters, but I was not going to try to post about every possible good filter.

The only part that suffered by the closing was about any possible future mea... [ More ]

Reply #40

GASMETERGUY — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 20:18:38 GMT

Insults are not the way to carry forth an intelligent discussion.

Reply #39

xaab — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:29:45 GMT

hahahaha thanks for the insults. I may not know all of 200+ filters that Stan has in his Expert Lotto software because some I think it's irrelevant and some I just don't care to spend the time to get to know them but I wasn't born 80 years ago or live in cave.

Reply #38

MonEl — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:55:12 GMT

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Identity Filter First Digits (Decades) and Last Digits.

On Pick3 and 4 games we have filters such as:

Singles, Doubles, Triples and Quads as digits which are the numbers on those games are allowed to repeat.

On jackpot kind of games 2 digits numbers can't repeat so we can't use those kinds of filters in the regular way.

But Decades and Last Digits can and do repeat.

01 02 03 04 05 it is also put down as 1 2 3 4 5 it is known that the decades are 0s but they are not put... [ More ]

Reply #37

dr san — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:26:32 GMT

Hello,monel I need your help to filter, this pair is for a 6/49 lottery

I will use a pivot or trio basis that there are no repeated digits

Example = .45 17.23, we repeat example or trailing both point to each number, in other words a 49/6 occurs in 95% of the time these type of trio, and the three missing number are gravitating within the six digits, I ask, how can create filters

To find the trios without repetition of digits sabenso that a repetition every 300 trio sweepstakes,

What... [ More ]

Reply #36

MonEl — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:29:51 GMT

xaab

You don't seem to know much about filters and besides that it seems as if either you didn't read all my filters posts here on this thread or that if you read them you didn't understand them or you forgot about them, also it seems as if you are not very familiar with the filters that Expert Lotto does have.

Because of all of that I can't talk to you about filters, it would be much better if Stan or somebody else much more familiar with filters than you would come here and read the post... [ More ]

Reply #35

xaab — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:35:08 GMT

So what filters do you think would be the best idea to be able to win the jackpots then besides the vtracs you're talking about? I have not use any of those softwares besides Expert Lotto and I think maybe someday with the right combination of filters use with Expert Lotto someone will win the jackpot. There are many filters built in to Expert Lotto including many or all of the filters you mention already in this thread. So you tell me what's the filter that's missing

Reply #34

MonEl — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:51:33 GMT

For the Cash 5 VTracs this is one possible way of grouping them:

Thiese are the boxed representations of the permutations:

7 Boxed patterns, these might not be even groups, that is each of those groups might not contain the very same numbers of lines of the full lines of a cash 5 game.

But the VTrac filters might be set to be reduced by more than 1 set of groups for more flex-ability and reduction.

ABCDE

AABCD

AABBC

AAABC

AAABB

AAAAB

AAAAA

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For exa... [ More ]

Reply #33

dr san — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:29:33 GMT

Hello, you can use the vtrac to assemble pairs, example of a 49/6

Vtrac 1 = 01.25

2 = 02.26 vtrac

3rd = 03.27 vtrac

4th vtrac = 04 28 ...

So = 24.48,

Will give 24 vtrac, vai has a vtrac that have 3 numbers, close to 49

The game will be reduced by 24 lines, calro that the lines will get 12 numbers

Where do you play 6, now if the termins oes or digits can end up getting the best system pick3, do in two groups, which will give a good result, even the study of pairs of pick3

Reply #32

MonEl — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:58:18 GMT

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I thought about it and there is really no problem with a VTrac filter because there would be no back and forth conversion of the numbers into VTracs and then back into numbers, after all, as it would only be used as a regular filter same as any of the other filters.

0 and 5 = V1

1 and 6 = V2

2 and 7 = V3

3 and 8 = V4

4 and 9 = V5

Feb 05, 2013 x1-x0-x1-x4-x4 V21255

Feb 06, 2013 x5-x0-x5-x9-x4 V11155

Feb 07, 2013 x3-x4-x6-x9-x5 V45251

Feb 08, 2013 x1-x2-x5-x2

Reply #31

MonEl — Thu, 28 Mar 2013 03:52:08 GMT

No, probably no VTracs for jackpot games, I now see complications, due to the back and forth conversions that filters such as VTracs need, the complication that I see is due to the Decades since the VTracs would only be used for the Last Digits, I also though about a VTrac for the whole 2 digits number, but at the moment that would not work either, I think that VTracs for jackpot games as such are probably out, unless somebody else already worked out a way that does work.

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Reply #30

MonEl — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:42:46 GMT

I thought about VTracs for jackpot games, but for a cash 5 or the 5 main numbers they would be:

5 x 5 x 5 x 5 x 5 = 3,125 Vtracs.

That is quite a few, of course, they would be better to have than 1/2 or 1 million possible combinations, they probably would be useful as filters also, so I will try to talk some about them as I can some other day, may this weekend.

Reply #29

MonEl — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:30:50 GMT

I have taken a look at some lottery software and you can't win jackpots with them, not only they don't have enough filters on them, but a lot of what they do have is wrong, many of the filters are in the wrong format.

People who build lottery softwares they themselves don't seem to know much about the lottery, random, prediction, statistics and lottery filters.

I have taken a look at the following programs and they are not good, their filters are wrong you can't win jackpots using the filt... [ More ]

Reply #28

MonEl — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:48:25 GMT

Thanks

Reply #27

helpmewin — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 05:32:43 GMT

Good job welcome

Reply #26

MonEl — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 05:20:06 GMT

There might be nobody right now who can win at will jackpots with or without lottery softwares, Why?

Is it because they say that lottery games are random and that you can't win or predict at will random games?

Or Is it because people don't really understand what random and prediction are really all about?

Or Is it because people don't have the computing or programing (or Is the word programming ?) resources that are needed in order to implement their techniques with?

Or it might be m... [ More ]

Reply #25

MonEl — Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:56:12 GMT

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There are probably many first digit or Decades filters and here is just one of them:

This examples again are for pick, cash 5 and 5 main numbers games:

11111 All 5 Decades are unique (not the same)

21110 2 Decades are the same, that is 2 Decades repeat somewhere on the whole line.

22100 2 Decades of the same digit come out and 2 other Decades also come out or repeat.

31100 3 Decades of the very same digit come out somewhere on the whole line.

32000 3 Decades of same

Reply #24

dr san — Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:16:20 GMT

Hello, monel, this filter to consider for 5/39

Example ultimate giveaway

02, 05, 15, 25, 38 previous = 01, 04 =, 14, 24, later = 37 03, 06, 16, 26.39

So in addition to sweepstakes their anterior and posterior, so are 15 numbers

To eliminate, but when is divided into 4 groups a group has zero or a number, as it is not known to do in 4 editions taking a group (10 numbers), and also pairs without repetition of digits together example 12.37 (has no repetition of digits both initial and f... [ More ]

Reply #23

MonEl — Sat, 23 Mar 2013 06:30:48 GMT

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I already talked about the Widths

For a pick 5 game it uses the number in the first position and the one in the last position such as:

Feb 14, 2013 07-09-19-26-38 = 38 - 7 = 31 Width.

But it can also be made to apply to numbers from any position to any other position such as:

Feb 14, 2013 07-09-19-26-38 = 9 - 7 = 2 Width

Feb 14, 2013 07-09-19-26-38 = 26-9 = 17 Width

This is probably all for this filter, other than to see stats of it, but you yourself can make those.

Reply #22

MonEl — Sat, 23 Mar 2013 05:57:11 GMT

14 - 2 Post

Consecutives:

Ca Fantasy 5, a pick 5 game

5/39

Feb 05, 2013 01-10-11-24-34 2 Consecs

Feb 06, 2013 05-10-15-29-34 0 Consecs

Feb 07, 2013 03-04-16-29-35 2 Consecs

Feb 08, 2013 01-12-15-22-29 0 Consecs

Feb 09, 2013 05-10-18-30-32 0 Consecs

Feb 10, 2013 10-14-17-19-37 0 Consecs

Feb 11, 2013 01-03-07-21-30 0 Consecs

Feb 12, 2013 04-18-25-30-33 0 Consecs

Feb 13, 2013 13-25-28-35-39 0 Consecs

Feb 14, 2013 07-09-19-26-38 0 Consecs

Reply #21

MonEl — Sat, 23 Mar 2013 05:32:59 GMT

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How to best handle consecutives?

It might be best to handle them in the way that some software already handles them like:

This examplem as the before examples is also for pick 5 - cash 5 games and for 5 main numbers games of the jackpot kind, but all or most of these things can be adapted to other pick or cash jackpot games.

This at first might be hard for people to understand:

Consecutives:

11111 That means no consecutive numbers

21110 That means 2 consecutive numbe... [ More ]

Reply #20

MonEl — Sat, 23 Mar 2013 04:54:48 GMT

Lucky 13 Post

For these kind of filters such as the Even-Odd and Low-High some software handles them in this way:

0-5 0 Even and 5 Odd

1-4 1 Even and 4 Odd

2-3 2 Even and 3 Odd

3-2 3 Even and 2 Odd

4-1 4 Even and 1 Odd

5-0 5 Even and 0 Odd

And the very same for the Low-High

Such software doesn't have my In-Out and my Bala-Nced filters.

Such a way might maybe be like a sort of boxed filter form of my straight filters form.

Such a thing reduces the 32 straight patt... [ More ]

Reply #19

MonEl — Wed, 20 Mar 2013 04:01:41 GMT

12th Post

I have a little time right now so:

As I said there is one more filter the 4th-one which I created and call the Bala-Nced

1 2 4 5 8 = Bala = B

0 3 6 7 9 = Nced = N

It is a complement to the other 3 filters, between all 4 of them, high filtration might be possible.

Feb 05, 2013 x1-x0-x1-x4-x4 BNBBB

Feb 06, 2013 x5-x0-x5-x9-x4 BNBNB Feb 07, 2013 x3-x4-x6-x9-x5 NBNNB Feb 08, 2013 x1-x2-x5-x2-x9 BBBBN Feb 09, 2013 x5-x0-x8-x0-x2 BNBNB Feb 10, 2013 x0-x4-x7-x9-x7 NB... [ More ]

Reply #18

dr san — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 04:18:04 GMT

hello, very good work, monel study of the termina oes (last digit) of a lottery number

is a powerful filter, because a 6/49 lottery, separating the termina oes

(0-9) can filter as if it were two pick3. positions = 1.2, pick3 3uma

4, 5, 6 other pick3, so everything up to today if you can evolve in forecast of pick3 also can use

in a 6/49 lottery or similar, of course the initial digit does not enter the study, because also

are few digits (0-4) and even certain digits in any positio... [ More ]

Reply #17

MonEl — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 01:54:26 GMT

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About Even-Odd and Low-High

Ca Fantasy 5, a pick 5 game

5/39

Feb 05, 2013 01-10-11-24-34

Feb 06, 2013 05-10-15-29-34

Feb 07, 2013 03-04-16-29-35

Feb 08, 2013 01-12-15-22-29

Feb 09, 2013 05-10-18-30-32

Feb 10, 2013 10-14-17-19-37

Feb 11, 2013 01-03-07-21-30

Feb 12, 2013 04-18-25-30-33

Feb 13, 2013 13-25-28-35-39

Feb 14, 2013 07-09-19-26-38

We kind of go by the Last Digit to tell if a number is Even, Odd, Low and or High.

But since the Deca... [ More ]

Reply #16

lottolot — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 21:13:06 GMT

Thanks a lot for your explication,although I cant use this filter with my program.

Regards

Reply #15

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:43:57 GMT

This is enough for the moment, more later as I can.

Reply #14

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:41:00 GMT

10th Post

lottolot

How anybody uses a particular filter or pattern might depend on that person's particular filter(s) prediction technique.

What might not work for somebody might work for somebody else.

Feb 05, 2013 01-10-11-24-34 080 Sum 0 Sum Last Digit

Feb 06, 2013 05-10-15-29-34 093 Sum 3 Sum Last Digit

Feb 07, 2013 03-04-16-29-35 087 Sum 7 SLD

Feb 08, 2013 01-12-15-22-29 079 Sum 9 SLD

Feb 09, 2013 05-10-18-30-32 095 Sum 5 SLD

Feb 10, 2013 10-14-17-19-37 097 Sum 7... [ More ]

Reply #13

lottolot — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:21:20 GMT

O.K.Perfect.

Thanks.

(But I dont know,well, the utility of this filter,because the values of the sum last digit of the draws are

all between 0 and 9.) How can you use this information for a filter

Reply #12

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:17:51 GMT

lottolot

Feb 05, 2013 01-10-11-24-34 80 Sum

01 + 10 + 11 + 24 + 34 = 80 Sum and the Last Digit on 80 is 0

Entiende ahora

Reply #11

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:14:07 GMT

lottolot

You are confusing things, you might need to read all the posts a lot more slowly.

For example on the pick 3 game

183 = 12 Sum = 2 Sum Last Digit.

Entiende

Reply #10

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:10:17 GMT

lottolot

Feb 05, 2013 01-10-11-24-34 080 Sum 0 Sum Last Digit

Feb 06, 2013 05-10-15-29-34 093 Sum 3 Sum Last Digit

Feb 07, 2013 03-04-16-29-35 087 Sum 7 SLD

Feb 08, 2013 01-12-15-22-29 079 Sum 9 SLD

Feb 09, 2013 05-10-18-30-32 095 Sum 5 SLD

Feb 10, 2013 10-14-17-19-37 097 Sum 7 SLD

Feb 11, 2013 01-03-07-21-30 062 Sum 2 SLD

Feb 12, 2013 04-18-25-30-33 110 Sum 0 SLD

Feb 13, 2013 13-25-28-35-39 140 Sum 0 SLD

Feb 14, 2013 07-09-19-26-38 099 Sum 9 SLD

Let me know

Reply #9

lottolot — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:01:43 GMT

Hello MOnEI:

Thanks for your info.

Can you help me? I dont know where you get the Sum Last Digit.(0 in the first case,

3 in the second,etc.)

I thought it is 10 in the first case,23 in the second,etc.

Thanks.

Reply #8

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:44:27 GMT

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Every Sum has a Last Digit that can be any-one of the 10 digits from 0 to 9

Feb 05, 2013 01-10-11-24-34 080 Sum 0 Sum Last Digit

Feb 06, 2013 05-10-15-29-34 093 Sum 3 Sum Last Digit

Feb 07, 2013 03-04-16-29-35 087 Sum 7 SLD

Feb 08, 2013 01-12-15-22-29 079 Sum 9 SLD

Feb 09, 2013 05-10-18-30-32 095 Sum 5 SLD

Feb 10, 2013 10-14-17-19-37 097 Sum 7 SLD

Feb 11, 2013 01-03-07-21-30 062 Sum 2 SLD

Feb 12, 2013 04-18-25-30-33 110 Sum 0 SLD

Feb 13, 2013 13-25-28-35-39... [ More ]

Reply #7

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:23:39 GMT

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The Full Sum of the Last Digits

Feb 05, 2013 01-10-11-24-34

Feb 06, 2013 05-10-15-29-34

Feb 07, 2013 03-04-16-29-35

Feb 08, 2013 01-12-15-22-29

Feb 09, 2013 05-10-18-30-32

Feb 10, 2013 10-14-17-19-37

Feb 11, 2013 01-03-07-21-30

Feb 12, 2013 04-18-25-30-33

Feb 13, 2013 13-25-28-35-39

Feb 14, 2013 07-09-19-26-38

Feb 05, 2013 x1-x0-x1-x4-x4 10 Sum (Of Last Digits)

Feb 06, 2013 x5-x0-x5-x9-x4 23 Sum

Feb 07, 2013 x3-x4-x6-x9-x5 27 Sum

Feb 08, 2013... [ More ]

Reply #6

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:04:44 GMT

7th Post

Sums of Positions 1 and 2

Ca Fantasy 5, a pick 5 game

5/39

Feb 05, 2013 01-10-11-24-34 11 Sum

Feb 06, 2013 05-10-15-29-34 15 Sum

Feb 07, 2013 03-04-16-29-35 07 Sum

Feb 08, 2013 01-12-15-22-29 13 Sum

Feb 09, 2013 05-10-18-30-32 15 Sum

Feb 10, 2013 10-14-17-19-37 24 Sum

Feb 11, 2013 01-03-07-21-30 04 Sum

Feb 12, 2013 04-18-25-30-33 22 Sum

Feb 13, 2013 13-25-28-35-39 38 Sum

Feb 14, 2013 07-09-19-26-38 16 Sum

For every particular jackpot lottery

Reply #5

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:34:51 GMT

6th Post

Before trying to talk about any other filters I will make one or more posts about these-ones

As you might know, most of the game's lines might be or are on the Middle Sums, this means then that most random drawing results might have Middle Sums at least in a more or less long run.

Lowest number 01 02 03 04 05 = 15 Sum

Highest number 35 36 37 38 39 = 185 Sum

Lowest sum 15

Highest sum 185

185 - 15 = 170 Total sums

170/2 = 85

So 15 + 85 = 100

Then, if... [ More ]

Reply #4

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 06:01:24 GMT

5th post

The Sums don't apply to only all the Numbers and or to all the Decades and or to All the Last Digits of the Complete Line Result, but also to Sums of Particular Positions, being that of 2, 3, 4 or 5 positions for pick 5 games or for 5 main numbers games.

Filters are Legion like Demons.

You can relate with statistics pretty much almost anything to anything, you first check what might be of real use for yourself or not as not just anything might give you good results.

More Lat... [ More ]

Reply #3

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 05:46:53 GMT

Fourth post:

Still being on this particular game, but talking about jackpot games in general.

Ca Fantasy 5, a pick 5 game

5/39

Feb 05, 2013 01-10-11-24-34

Feb 06, 2013 05-10-15-29-34

Feb 07, 2013 03-04-16-29-35

Feb 08, 2013 01-12-15-22-29

Feb 09, 2013 05-10-18-30-32

Feb 10, 2013 10-14-17-19-37

Feb 11, 2013 01-03-07-21-30

Feb 12, 2013 04-18-25-30-33

Feb 13, 2013 13-25-28-35-39

Feb 14, 2013 07-09-19-26-38

Width, Distance, Difference, Gap or whatever of

Reply #2

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 05:10:49 GMT

Post # 3

So, so far what we have for this pick 5 game, more or less is something like this:

XY XY XY XY XY

Where X can equal anything from 0 to 9

And the same for Y.

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And Z Z Z Z Z

Where Z can equal anything from 00 to 99 or from 01 to 99

Reply #1

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 04:57:44 GMT

2nd post:

Still being on this particular game, but talking about jackpot games in general.

Ca Fantasy 5, a pick 5 game

5/39

Feb 05, 2013 01-10-11-24-34

Feb 06, 2013 05-10-15-29-34

Feb 07, 2013 03-04-16-29-35

Feb 08, 2013 01-12-15-22-29

Feb 09, 2013 05-10-18-30-32

Feb 10, 2013 10-14-17-19-37

Feb 11, 2013 01-03-07-21-30

Feb 12, 2013 04-18-25-30-33

Feb 13, 2013 13-25-28-35-39

Feb 14, 2013 07-09-19-26-38

Not all things said might apply or work exactly as

Some jackpot games filters ideas

MonEl — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 04:21:14 GMT

First post:

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If you think that a draw, digit or number doesn't have anything to do with any other draw, digit or number you are or might be right, but then this and all such posts might not be for you and you might not want to read them.

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These things apply to many of the jackpot kind of games, but the examples shown here

are for the Ca Fantasy 5 game.

Ca Fantasy 5, a pick 5 game

5/39

Feb... [ More ]