looks can be deceiving

Reply #80

lakerben — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 22:28:30 GMT

nice work

Reply #79

ranman17 — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 03:25:07 GMT

I found an error. Download it again. Sorry: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ivyj0id1p2uyqp0/Looks%20Can%20Be%20Deceiving.xlsx

Reply #78

zennjohn — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 02:55:52 GMT

your the man!!! ranman.

Reply #77

ranman17 — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 02:53:34 GMT

Try this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ivyj0id1p2uyqp0/Looks%20Can%20Be%20Deceiving.xlsx

Reply #76

onlymoney — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 02:40:38 GMT

The answer to that question remains a mystery to me. But it's not limited to one up and one down. There's up and down by 2, or 3. And when to use a mirror or not, or just don't do anything at all..lol

I don't think there are any rules. Too many variables exist which warrants some kind of tracking system, otherwise we're just guessing in the dark. Until I see combos posted before the draw, will I believe.

Below is when I believe. Tonight's Florida winning number was 443. Time stamped 3 days... [ More ]

Reply #75

ESR54 — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 02:11:20 GMT

Thanks for sharing Quick333.

Reply #74

grwurston — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 01:30:11 GMT

It is appreciated. Sometimes looking outside the box can give you ideas or methods that you would never have come up with otherwise.

Reply #73

Quick333 — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 01:26:29 GMT

Im just giving u guys a great tool for u guys to understand how to look at this game in a different way....thats all....speaking my mind sharing this great method.....no stepping on nobody toes

Reply #72

Quick333 — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 01:21:30 GMT

Why I say only 0-3 because if u have the 5 for example if u go up three it will be 8....but now if u go down three it will be 2 but that will be confusing because is the same thing if u go up two now is 7 and if u mirror it u end up with the same 2.....so u just eliminated going down three with the digit 5 it just go up three.....same thing with the 7....if u go down three is 3....dont u think its better if u just go up one time and is 8 just mirror it and is 3....the same number just less moves... [ More ]

Reply #71

Quick333 — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 01:08:34 GMT

So lets say in the case of the 7 if u were to change it u have three options....only three options thats it.....no breaking ur head is simple......either u leave it the same as a regular 7 or mirror it which is a 2 ( thats one option).......second option u could go down or up one....or go down two or up two (third option

Reply #70

Quick333 — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 01:00:32 GMT

So now lets say a 7 came out in order for u to change the digit u have options to change it or leave the digit as it is.....so thats why I say that theres a middle number in between draws that makes the digit change....I called it hidden numbers which means the number of steps u made to change the digit.....is from 0-3

Reply #69

Quick333 — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:56:17 GMT

Every draw to draw the three digits that are the winning number to get to the next winning draw each three digits have to make a move.....whether is a digit under it or a digit over it.....it could be one down or one up etc......for example florida draw midday was 736......the next winning draw is not gonna be 736 again right? Is obvious that it has to be a different sets of number.....so for a draw to change to the next draw something has to happen with the digits.....u get it

Reply #68

adobea78 — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:52:27 GMT

'every digit has to make a move( an action)'- I don't think folks are interested in whatever ideal is behind this statement, which in itself is vague, a workout with say a draw set 123 step by step will clarify things, unless you really don't want to share- what i gather is you're subsetting the pool to just 0-3 as a base. Trust me, you learn and earn a lot by opening up, that's essence of this forum. I share a lot on this forum and have learned and gained a lot, whatever ideal you have can be e... [ More ]

Reply #67

Quick333 — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:50:42 GMT

Txpolo its very simple method.....I have seen alot of good ideas, concept, systems,method etc......I truly belief that the method that I have is a very simple tool u guys could use.....if u grab a digit for example 7 lets say......is common sense if u go down one number down it will be 6 right? And if u go up one number it will be 8 right? Thats all it is

Reply #66

txpolo — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:38:15 GMT

Could some one explain one up one down.

When does this apply?

Thanks

Reply #65

JonnyBgood07 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 20:09:34 GMT

I tell you what...I just backtested the above example only ( how I understood it) for allstates using CT mid as the base draw number

and seeing if the outcome fell the next day..I've only looked in the past week and with 2 numbers you could've easily caught a str8 in the east coast somewhere

the next day.

Either playing it forewards or backwards.

That 's all preliminary of course.However,your intro piece I don't understand no matter how many times i read it.

No biggy though,i... [ More ]

Reply #64

lakerben — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:34:57 GMT

I think that an excel sheet properly programmed would solve all the confusion.

Reply #63

onlymoney — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 19:00:05 GMT

No problem.

So let's see what happened. Last night's Florida winning number was 729, and today's mid winner was 736.

The first position was the same, so I'm guessing that's a 0 .

The second position was 1 up.

And the third position was 3 down.

The hidden number was 013. But remember, this is after the fact. We didn't know before the draw whether the 7 would stay the same or move, and whether the 2 was going up or down, or if it needed to use a mirror or not..lol, and whether... [ More ]

Reply #62

TNERT — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:36:36 GMT

Thanks onlymoney thats a wrap

Reply #61

onlymoney — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:07:24 GMT

I can't speak for him, but basically he's using random choices from the Hidden Numbers list to predict the next winning combo. So basically, If someone doesn't have some valuable insight as to which hidden numbers to use, it's just a crap shoot. And it doesn't stop there, you have to know how to use the hidden numbers, meaning, whether they'll move up or down. And it still doesn't end there, you have to include possible mirrors as well...lol

All possible hidden numbers are from 000-333, which... [ More ]

Reply #60

p3wyn — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:45:11 GMT

Howdy Quick333,

Are there rules or formulas of how you apply the set of hidden numbers to the draw number, e.g. the example mid day draw 842? From what I observed, each hidden number set is not apply in the same formula way. For example, when the hidden number set 011 was applied to 842 to get 386, i noticed the formula is different versus when you the apply the hidden number set 121 to the 842 to get 228. Am I correct in my assumption? If so, how are the hidden number sets properly used acco... [ More ]

Reply #59

txpolo — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:19:57 GMT

Could you explain one up one down.

Thanks

Reply #58

tvpventures — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:34:37 GMT

Thank you for your help to understand your idea.! Sorry for being so slow in this, but where should we look for winning numbers or combinations? The ones that come out after we applied the method? So we applied the method and then,..?

Thank you

Reply #57

demon120 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:32:49 GMT

Ok I still don't understand how this applies to jackpot games! 0 in 07 stays the same? I broke it down the way you said to do and it doesn't say what #'s to play

Reply #56

Quick333 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:29:04 GMT

Well I apologize for that mistake.....its not a 0 I should've put the digit stay the same

Reply #55

demon120 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:26:39 GMT

I think he went down 2! 2 0

Reply #54

onlymoney — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:18:49 GMT

I think you're just pulling my chain with all this double talk. You show the 7 turning into a 2, it's mirror, then write ...the 0.

Ok, you had your fun.

Reply #53

onlymoney — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:16:44 GMT

Wait a minute, now I'm really confused.

The 7 in 729 becomes a 2, it's mirror. And then you write....the 0.

Seriously? Are you trying to confuse me

Reply #52

onlymoney — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:14:26 GMT

Thanks for explaining.

Why does the 0 stay the same, yet other numbers can move

Reply #51

Quick333 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:13:20 GMT

0 means the digits stayed the same as the same number or its mirror.... 0 it didnt move...NO up or down stay the same

Reply #50

onlymoney — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:09:00 GMT

229.....the 0

What does that mean? How do you get 229 and the 0

Reply #49

onlymoney — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:07:17 GMT

the only little hard part is knowing what digit to move one up or two up or one down or two down

I figured, just a small snag in the way of winning. Like i wrote earlier in this thread, there's always that If I just did this or If I just done that routine.

Well, just give me the combos you'd play for today's Florida mid draw using last night's winner 729. This way I can see how many combos there are.

I've already explained that there are too many numbers to consider, but you d... [ More ]

Reply #48

Quick333 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:06:48 GMT

Sample

729

229........the 0

168.......one down

885.......one up

057.......two down

49......two up just ( for the 7 2)

6........three down just the 9

Now u get the first digits.....combine them

289

158

847

096

426

Reply #47

Quick333 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:55:26 GMT

The 0 in this method means that the digit stayed the same....as the same digit or its mirror....from 0-4 low the only number that goes JUST down three is the 4.....because 4 go down three is 1.....and vice versa with the 9 in the high category.....the only little hard part is knowing what digit to move one up or two up or one down or two down

Reply #46

onlymoney — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:55:13 GMT

So last night's Florida winning number was 729. Show me the amount of combos to play for today's midday draw?

If you say it's that easy, then you shouldn't have a problem showing which combos to play, right?

729---GO

Reply #45

Quick333 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:47:22 GMT

Ok like I said before is only 0-3 the hidden numbers.....since 2 and 7 are the middle digits for each category u cant move up or down 3 because if u move up 3 to the seven u end up with 0 and thats confusing....its the same thing if u move two times down and u have the 5 just mirror and end up with the 0 same thing

Reply #44

onlymoney — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:45:05 GMT

Ok, but you still don't understand. Even with just a little movement, up and down, it would cost a lot of money.

2 to 8 example. We don't know before the draw which way the 2 will move, up or down, so we have to play every possible movement. 2 up 1=3, mirror 8....2 up 2=4, mirror 9. 2 up 3=5, mirror 0............Then 2 down 1=1, mirror 6,..... then 2 down 2=0, mirror 5.....then 2 down 3=9, mirror 4

So we have 3-8-4-9-5-0-1-6-0-5-9-4

After eliminating the duplicates we end up with 8 numb... [ More ]

Reply #43

demon120 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:41:37 GMT

7 2(5 mirror 0)

3 2(1 mirror 6)

7 2 (9 mirror 4)

5 3(8 mirror 3)

0 3(3 mirror 8)

1 3(4 mirror 4

Reply #42

onlymoney — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:37:02 GMT

Ok, so let's do 117 to 729 as an example so I can understand better. Show me the actual amount of combos I'd have to play to win the 729. Thanks.

Reply #41

demon120 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:35:59 GMT

How would you know what numbers to play for the game though

Reply #40

Quick333 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:35:55 GMT

The secret to this method is for u not to go down or up too many numbers....for example if u have a 2 and the digit that came out was a 8 that means from the 2 to the 8 u had to move it six time to get 8 (2+6=8) to confussing......but if u move the 2 one time is a 3 all u do is mirror it and u end up with the same winning digit

Reply #39

Quick333 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:30:09 GMT

Exactly onlymoney......that's the case if u went up one time only.....remember there's two categories.....the lows 0-4 and the highs 5-9.......if u are dealing with a low digit between 0-4 stay in that category to move up or down....for example the 1....u know if u move one up is 2 u are in the low category and if u move down one time is 0 still in the same low category.....the only numbers that transcend from low to high are the 0 and 4 if u move it one time

Reply #38

demon120 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:23:25 GMT

Broke it down like that already

Reply #37

demon120 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:22:20 GMT

How do you know which way to go though

Reply #36

Quick333 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:20:14 GMT

Lets strip the combo.....7-13-17-25-30-31

0/7- 1/3- 1/7- 2/5- 3/0- 3/1

Forget the first digit for now....focus on the second digits those are the hard ones

Second digits are 737 501 now they look more like pick 3 games right?

Split them in half 737. 501....apply the method to each of them

Reply #35

demon120 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:16:38 GMT

Agree

Reply #34

onlymoney — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:15:36 GMT

Ok, but won't that give us too many numbers to play?

First digit went up 1, so we have the 2 and it's mirror 7. But this is after the fact. We don't know which way 1 will go, up or down? So the first position has the following possibilities,

up=2/7

down=0/5

First position

2

7

0

5

The next issue is that we know after the fact it went up 1, but it could go up two, or three, or down one, two, or three. How can you tell before the draw which way it's going to go? If w... [ More ]

Reply #33

demon120 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:09:20 GMT

07-13-17-25-30-31

This was nj pick 6 last draw! But what numbers would you use? The numbers you get or the mirror

Reply #32

Quick333 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:06:21 GMT

In jackpot games a combo is made up like this

28-30-35-58-59. 15. For example

If u split the 2/8 , the 3/0 , the 3/5, the 5/8 the 5/9 and the 1/5

Look at the second digits the 8,0,5,8,9,5

Split those in half 805- and 895

Now u could apply the same method to those digits

Reply #31

Quick333 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:59:35 GMT

Example from yesterday florida cash 3......midday draw 117 evening draw 729

117 the first digit went up one time....if it went up one time it becomes a 2 (1+1) 2.....if u mirror the 2 it becomes 7

The second digit went up one time as well they left it as 2 no mirror

The third digit went up two times (7+2) 9 and they left it just like that no mirror

Reply #30

demon120 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:57:16 GMT

How can it be applied to a jackpot game though? I've tried but got nothing

Reply #29

Quick333 — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:52:16 GMT

This method is easy.....every digit has to make a move( an action) to get to the winning digit....it dont matter if it is a pick 3 game pick 4 game pick 5 game powerball and megamillion IT DOESN'T MATTER.....the digits has to change

Reply #28

grwurston — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 03:34:38 GMT

In your example, the 2nd digit 7, you went up two to get 9. Why don't you go down two to get 5? Do you always go one or the other? (up or down) And how do you know which way? Also I don't get how you find the hidden numbers. My last 2 numbers were mid 853 eve 410. Can you please do a workout so I can follow along better. Thank you.

Reply #27

pavizlo$ — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 03:09:05 GMT

Good stuff here. will back test it . Thanks for sharing.

Reply #26

zennjohn — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 03:03:31 GMT

for real.

Reply #25

onlymoney — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 02:42:33 GMT

Yeah, I know all about the Had I done this , and If I just did that routine..lol

Nevertheless I think you've got something good here, I just can't understand what it is.

I'm confident I'll get to the bottom of this eventually. My inner gut feeling acts like a scout looking for people like you who may have a potentially winning system.

Reply #24

onlymoney — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 02:26:22 GMT

Thanks for sharing.

One question for now, lol, I read your explanation but still can't understand how you get the hidden number.

You wrote earlier that even though you didn't get the 117 correct, the hidden number was on the list, which I believe was 230. I don't know how you're getting those numbers.

Reply #23

tvpventures — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 02:05:51 GMT

Sorry for asking again, but can you give in example how this might work for Jackpot games? You sated in your post that its good for all games. I still trying to understand.. Example would help! :-)Thanks for sharing!

Thank you

Reply #22

Quick333 — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 18:04:46 GMT

Florida mid draw was 117......hidden number was 230 wich I had correct...I played 162 as u can see all I had to do was mirror the 6 and the 2 and I would of had the correct winning draw 117

Reply #21

Quick333 — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:42:30 GMT

Yes sir.....thats correct

Reply #20

adobea78 — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:29:29 GMT

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

draw 175

1 3(go up 2x) mirror 3 8

7 9(go up 2x) mirror 9 4

5 7(go up 2x) mirror 7 2

Pick to wage 842

Can you clarify this 'so what I did was simply went up and down 2

Reply #19

Quick333 — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:29:03 GMT

So for today in florida mid day draw Im going give u an example.....im going to use 5 different sets of combos from (0-3) hidden numbers and get a winning draw....

842

011 (hidden number)

121 (hidden number)

132 (hidden number)

230 (hidden number)

301 (hidden number)

We end up with

386-228-910-162-541

Reply #18

Quick333 — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:16:12 GMT

Lets take florida cash 3 for example.....mid draw yesterday was 175 and evening draw was 842.....the hidden number was (222)

What I do first is i start with the first digit wich in this case is the 1....since 1 is in the low category(0-4) I stay in the low category so I take 1 and go up two times and we have 3 and if u simply mirror it u end up with 8....Remember 0 and 4 are the only digits that u can transcend from low to high...second digit is 7( the middle digit) go up two times and u get

Reply #17

Quick333 — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:05:51 GMT

The only digits that could transcend from low to high are the digits 0 and 4.....why? Because if u take the 0 and go down one it becomes 9 and if u go up one is 1.....same thing with the 4...go up one and it is 5 and go down one and it is 3.....and vice versa with the digits 5 and the 9......like I said before the hidden numbers are only 0-3

Reply #16

Quick333 — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:59:59 GMT

Its a very simple method....u have 0-9 ten digits....split them in half and u end up with (0-4 lows) and (5-9 highs).

Digit 2 from the lows and digit 7 from the highs are the middle digit from each category.....if u take digit 2 for example and if u go down two it is 0 and if u go up two it becomes 4......same with the 7 is u go down two is 5 and if u go up two is 9 staying inside each of their category low or high....there is no need to go up or down 3 with this digits

Reply #15

tvpventures — Wed, 11 Jun 2014 02:20:09 GMT

How about Jackpot games? Can you give an example? Powerball or Mega?

Thanks

Reply #14

Pick3Guy — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:19:05 GMT

You explained that ,excluding 2 7, you would add or subtract 3. But, in this example you're adding 2(i.e. going up). Did anyone else catch this

Reply #13

Pick3Guy — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:02:15 GMT

The last two draws for texas are 490 and 410

Reply #12

Quick333 — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:19:24 GMT

Lets do this give me your 5 best combos numbers from 0-3 and I'll give u 5 draws for tonight so u can give it a try

Reply #11

narlie — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:04:44 GMT

Quick333 could you do the Ohio #s you said 2 7 you don't subtract 3 what do you do in the case of 579 986 I kinda get it I think that has me confused Thankyou

Reply #10

Quick333 — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:51:21 GMT

Final draw was 667......and the hidden number between 490 and 667 was (332) from 0-3 the only difference is that u mirror two digits

Reply #9

Quick333 — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:48:36 GMT

Lets try this out texas........

490

667

First digit 4 go down 3 (from 0-4 low) is 1 mirror is (6)....second digit 9 go down 3 (from 5-9 high) is (6).....third digit 0 go up 2 (from 0-4 low) is 2 mirror (7)....

Reply #8

txpolo — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:16:00 GMT

Texas: 490 667

Thanks

Reply #7

narlie — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:08:02 GMT

Ohio. 986 579

Reply #6

needinghelp — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:04:27 GMT

Floss dog on the prowl again I see..

Reply #5

Quick333 — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:03:18 GMT

Give me the last two draws

Reply #4

cwapena — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:01:17 GMT

Ohio

Reply #3

flossdog — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:50:56 GMT

Reply #2

Quick333 — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:38:03 GMT

There are ten numbers 0-9.... split them in half...u end up with 0,1,2,3,4 lows and 5,6,7,8,9 highs.....digit 2 from the lows and digit 7 from the high are the ONLY digits that u wont add or subtract 3 to it. What state are u playing

Reply #1

adobea78 — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:14:51 GMT

Tell me about it.

looks can be deceiving

Quick333 — Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:02:00 GMT

There are hidden numbers ( the real numbers ) within every draw combination. Is like MAGIC the combo draw numbers are an illusion. And this goes to every game from small games like the pick 3 to the big jackpots games like powerball, mega millions etc. It dont matter what game u playing or state u in its the same concept. The real numbers that u have to focus are from 0-3.