HOT DIGIT ?? or something more?

Reply #129

Jayhawk58 — Sun, 25 Sep 2016 18:27:26 GMT

Well, I sure hope you got some of that

Reply #128

sam9009 — Sun, 25 Sep 2016 02:19:19 GMT

NY has played 78 in the same position 3 nights in a row.

Reply #127

Jayhawk58 — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:15:41 GMT

This will probably be my last post on this...... I think I've shown that it makes sense. Consecutives are stronger for the repeat than mirrors.

The key is we all know it's common for a digit to repeat on a regular basis. Would you like to choose from 3......or 1 or 2?

I think that statement sums up the whole basis of it. Whether you go draw to draw or mid to mid, eve to eve.

We began this post tracking in KS from Aug 29, although we could begin just about anywhere. Because the col... [ More ]

Reply #126

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:14:03 GMT

Yep!! Review your past history. The key is we all know it's common for a digit to repeat on a regular basis. Would you like to choose from 3......or 1 or 2?

9/15 M-691 E-782

9/16 M-601 E-901

9/17 M-470 E-202

9/18 M-504 E-639

9/19 M-799 E-638

9/20 M-305 E-373

There is plenty more example in your history.

Reply #125

hue1984 — Wed, 21 Sep 2016 13:56:55 GMT

how about california will it work too,

Reply #124

grwurston — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 19:54:37 GMT

I've seen hit go 8 before. On the other hand, I've seen one group go 19 draws without hitting. But that is the extreme.

Reply #123

Jayhawk58 — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 13:18:54 GMT

I generally hold to that and try to figure out if the shift is coming........For that draw we were at 6 consecutive for that group, EVE and MID combined. Now it is 8 !!!!

That's some kind of record I'm sure. KS is usually pretty consistent, two or three of same group and break. Then again. I'm been tracking it since May and because I track almost everything in a spreadsheet, it was easy to go back and update my other tracking. So that's more than a little unusual.

Reply #122

grwurston — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 02:57:43 GMT

I would stick with the Group A RS's till they stop. If they're on a hot streak, ride it out.

Reply #121

Jayhawk58 — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 02:07:00 GMT

And I need to spend more time with +\-. I think I could get the hang of it. What I did get from your post earlier was about the root. I had trouble deciding on which for reduction. Root 1 is part of group 1,4,7. So that's what I went with. KS is still doing this crazy repeat thing. That group has been like 5 of the last draws on the evening and I could hope it crossed over.

The other thing I got was do what you know. After last night I realized I haven't paid enough attention to the 3-4 rundo... [ More ]

Reply #120

ALX — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 15:28:17 GMT

20/20 hindsight here but it shows the value of simple. +- 307= 30 70=pairs 30 70 37. 307 root sum = 1 and mirror 6. Make combos 301 701 371 306 706 376. I realize this required a pair repeat that is not an everyday thing but one of the for +- numbers and one of the root sum or its mirror happen a lot.

Today 706=70 06, root sum 4 9 so if you think a pair will repeat 704 709 604 609 764 769

706= 76 consec, 0 (5)

307 706 last two high numbers 0 0 (5 5)

lots of 0's and 5's and 59 pair i... [ More ]

Reply #119

Jayhawk58 — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 02:46:03 GMT

Well, it figures. Root 4. Again. And as a player should never bank on one number when playing after consecutive or mirrors. Especially when it's as plain as the nose on your face. In the 3-4 rundown, 9 can be a zero. Like tonite. I had all but one digit right. 9 instead of 0.

And that's like 5 or 6 draws in a row in that group of 1,4,7 roots.

Hey, we have new consecutive to play.....

Reply #118

ALX — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 02:41:27 GMT

706 evening winner, 07 pair repeat, 67 consec, 307 high number 7 hits, maybe 0 (three in a row) or 5 with 2 1 6 tomorrow

Reply #117

ALX — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 02:30:07 GMT

gr, you know you love your charts, but enough is enough!! As time goes by I like simple charts, high percentage results and easy workouts more and more. So weird that 60-80% has been around so long but is soo hard to capitalize on.

Reply #116

Jayhawk58 — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 01:35:18 GMT

Anyone want to step out there?

I'm banking on the 9 only. Matched it to pairs, reduced down. Picked some root sums to go with.

Going with Root sums 2, 5 and 8. On the evening draw hasn't been a 2, 5, or 8 since Aug 30. And that was the only one since Aug 21.

For a backup, I'd take root 3 and 9.

16 combo's just cause I can't decide. Really think root 5 or 8. Only watching tonite. Stuck home, can't get tickets.

We'll see.....

Good luck

Reply #115

Jayhawk58 — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 01:28:55 GMT

Reply #114

grwurston — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 22:20:21 GMT

Charts are good, except that when you have so many, which one(s) do we use

Reply #113

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 21:31:46 GMT

Thanks for the input ALX. Like the way yu can reduce by trying things like that.

I tried to take a page from you with the + and - thing on the prev draw (9-1=8). 3-4 rundown showed the 1, 3 and 8 as key digits. Since they don't match any of the digits I'm using as key from the mirror pair, I did match them to those. Didn't really trust myself with that. Thought I'd just watch it to see what happened. My combo's were (I know some people think this is too many):

018 019 027 036 037 039 049 0... [ More ]

Reply #112

ALX — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:09:29 GMT

Nice chart work you guys! You can never have too many charts lol! I noticed something that may fall into the trivia category but it works sometimes. If you take the highest number from the last game and mirror it you often get one of the next numbers. If you take the highest number and its mirror from the last two games you can sometimes get a winning pair. Obviously this doesn't happen all the time so when it has happened for a couple of games etc. you can expect it won't happen or vice versa.... [ More ]

Reply #111

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 16:33:47 GMT

Thanks !

I posted it so it well help people make some green.

Of course, how I look at it, it isn't the consecutives and mirrors, it's what happens after.

Reply #110

grwurston — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 15:15:06 GMT

Nice work Jayhawk56

Reply #109

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 15:00:31 GMT

Pick- 3 Consecutive and Mirror combo s by Root Sum

1-001, 019, 055, 127, 136, 145, 235, 289, 334, 388, 469, 478, 568, 667

2-011, 029, 038, 056, 128, 146, 227, 236, 245, 344, 389, 479, 569, 578, 677

3-012, 039, 057, 129, 138, 156, 237, 345, 489, 678

4-013, 049, 058, 067, 112, 166, 238, 247, 256, 346, 445, 499, 589, 679, 778

5-005, 014, 023, 059, 122, 149, 167, 239, 257, 338, 347, 356, 455, 689, 788

6-015, 069, 078, 123, 168, 249, 267, 348, 456, 789

7-016, 025, 034, 079, 124,

Reply #108

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 13:52:16 GMT

Great chart!! Thanks for posting. Others have seen it working in P4.

I'll see if I can post one for P-3.

Reply #107

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 13:44:44 GMT

Yep, pretty busy there in NY. And mirror pairs before that.

Reply #106

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 13:36:23 GMT

Awesome!! Study up.....it works.

Happening in FL too. As you can see, larger digit first followed by the other digits in draw after the double. Expect doubles, especially when the draw as multiple like the 354. 34 and 45 consecutive.

Sep 6 MID-992 EVE-364

Sep 5 MID-354 EVE-159

Happening in MO

Sep 6 MID-220 EVE-053

Sep 5 MID-471 EVE-944

Sep 4 MID-598 EVE-559

Sep 3 MID-471 EVE-459

Sep 2 MID-506 EVE-059

You see multiples here, but notice the digits that play. 506, mirr... [ More ]

Reply #105

Soledad — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 13:07:58 GMT

Hi, Jayhawk58,

You have it in New York right now, 8 draws in a row with consecutive pairs.

Interesting no? There's definitely hot digits involved, 8 now 3.

The first post on page 1, all that stuff you did worked with the 14 pair and the 3 from the 23 in 723. Next # was 341. Let me take a look at this as best I can. Thank you.

Reply #104

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 12:43:03 GMT

Awesome on your hit in NM!!

And the 091 was right on....

4 0 3 6 4 6 3 0 4 6 3 6

4 3 9 1 1 3 4 1 9 9

7 3 1 2 7 5 1 9

1 4 3 3 6 1

5 7 9 7

3-4 rundown from Monday

4 6 3 4 4 4 3 6 4 4 3 4

1 9 7 8 8 9 1 8 7 7

1 7 6 7 1 9 6 5

8 4 4 1 6 2

3 8 7 8

3-4 rundown from Tuesday

I generally put all the pairs from 3 days of rundown in my workout. Run through filter. Make combinations. Reduce by chart and sums and roots. Any that shows in pyramid and rundo... [ More ]

Reply #103

grwurston — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 04:52:27 GMT

PICK 4 CONSECUTIVE PAIRS CHART BY ROOT SUMS 125#'S

Yellow is low consecutive pairs. Blue is high consecutive pairs.

RS1 RS2 RS3 RS4 RS5 RS6 RS7 RS8 RS9

1 0136 0137 0138 0148 0158 0168 1249 1259 0135

2 1279 0146 0147 0157 1247 1248 1258 1268 1269

3 0235 0236 0237 1246 0347 1257 1348 2357 2358

4 2359 2369 2379 0238 1346 0348 0457 1349 1458

5 2368 0245 3468 0346 3479 1347 4579 0458 2457

6 1459 2459 1569 3469 0356 1356 0367 1457 1467

7 2458 1568 2568 0256 3569 0... [ More ]

Reply #102

lakerben — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 03:41:57 GMT

091 hit.

Reply #101

lakerben — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 03:39:41 GMT

It hit this morning in NM.

Sunday 773.

Square 7's 49x.

This morning 942.

Reply #100

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 02:10:06 GMT

Tried to do this with tablet and just wouldn't work.

I like your approach. Of what I see, I would go with the 16 pair. Why? Historically, doubles and multiple doubles are followed by consecutive pairs or mirror pairs. Since these did not precede with such, it should follow with one.

Pulling the combo's for 16 from today's 3-4 rundown, we see 162 167 168 164 163 169 165 160. Consecutive from rundown are 78, 12, 34, 67. Mirrors would be the 16, 38, 27. We shall see.

Good Luck... [ More ]

Reply #99

lakerben — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 22:24:26 GMT

646

Squares

36

16

36

88

646

088

Mirrors

191

179

157

135

113

Reply #98

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 20:28:02 GMT

And today for MID, it shows.....711. Just as we called it.

And it's plain as day in todays 3-4 rundown also.......

Good call ALX

Reply #97

amber123 — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 17:43:00 GMT

Nope. ..lol

Reply #96

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 16:13:59 GMT

I appreciate your input over the course of it. Your experience and insight has been very helpful.

Reply #95

ALX — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 15:09:50 GMT

646 was an interesting result from the 064, at least it was a double and the 6's from the 753 root sum. Thank you for this informative and interesting topic.

Reply #94

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 03:02:41 GMT

So we started this thread following consecutive and mirror pairs for KS. I stated in the beginning I felt this would apply to all states, so I hoped you went and looked at the draw history for your game and checked it out.

This is what it looks like so far.

Sep 05 MID-753 EVE-646

Sep 04 MID-362 EVE-064

Sep 03 MID-491 EVE-082

Sep 02 MID-554 EVE-054

Sep 01 MID-009 EVE-928

Aug 31 MID-862 EVE-501

Aug 30 MID-209 EVE-887

Aug 29 MID-646 EVE-352

We've seen some interes... [ More ]

Reply #93

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 02:46:47 GMT

Well, the double came......just not what I thought it would. 646 Root sum I was playing, just not the right keys. Sometimes I can't see the forest for the trees. I actually keyed on the 1, 2, and 7. I get tunnel vision and don't play what's in front of me. If I had keyed on the mirrors of the digits all across I would have gotten the 6. Then I felt really strong about the doubles, so I eliminated everything else.

Would have been 16 combinations, instead of just 7. Very affordable.

When I f... [ More ]

Reply #92

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 01:42:30 GMT

BA's post earlier today:

Michigan's long out short sums 8-9-0

The wait can be a bit long

Also what's hot happens

________________________

Short sums 3-5 or -7 is hot

Digit 2-7 or 5.. has been falling

012 023 067 124 157 159 179 238 247

249 256 267 269 357 359 456 458 467

Sep 5 MID 863 EVE 179

Both short sum 7

WTG BA

Reply #91

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 00:45:56 GMT

I'm with you..I still think doubles are imminent.

4 0 3 6 4 6 3 0 4 6 3 6

4 3 9 1 1 3 4 1 9 9

7 3 1 2 7 5 1 9

1 4 3 3 6 1

5 7 9 7

Today's rundown. As you can see the the 357 is in the left column, You can see the doubles spread through it. Don't count out the one digit move in the combination. KS has done that a lot lately. So, possibly the 754, or 763.

We shall see.

Good luck

Reply #90

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 00:29:50 GMT

Well bummer........I did check to see how it would be for tonight. If you followed your plan....WIN !!

Pick 2 was 42. Did you do multiples

Reply #89

Jayhawk58 — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 00:26:18 GMT

Thanks for chiming in BA!! Your experience guides us......

I'm going to follow along.

Reply #88

amber123 — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 22:16:56 GMT

Thanks. Well the winner was 03, no dice. It never fails huh?

Now I have to wait for another consecutive and double up to make up the 8 bucks I lost. I may just play the back number up by one multiple times.

Reply #87

ALX — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 19:27:32 GMT

Thanks BA, its all vibrations!!

753 mid..there's the 3 from 362, 5 from 054 and 7 from 887 that hadn't showed. That leaves 1 9 8 and maybe the 2 not played yet. Since 753 has no consec, mirror or doubles I would consider long out 7 for the double, 771, 779 778 772. 753 s/sum= 7+5=3=15, 1+5=6 and mirror is 1 (1- 9 8) so maybe 17 15 13 pairs if no double

Reply #86

Blackapple — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 16:19:00 GMT

Excellent post

Long out versus Hot

Nature repeats sounds,vibrations

We go with the flow..sometimes

Michigan...Short sums you see..9/5-9/8

Reply #85

ALX — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 15:15:37 GMT

362 is 32 pair and 6, so 6 or 1 could show

064 no consec, mirror or double but the 6 did show

3 or 2 could show

Mid longest out doubles

11- 124 games since hit

99- 99

88- 75

Eve longest out doubles

44- 70 games since hit

55- 26

22- 25

77- 24

Mid and Eve combined

44- 59 games since hit

77- 48

99- 36

I like 11, 44, 99 and 77.....so 211 311 244 344 299 399 277 377 for possible doubles

Reply #84

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 01:09:08 GMT

Well we got the consecutive pair, 362. I didn't get to play today, I didn't even get to finish my workout, had more eliminations to do. So far the combo was still in it. My keys were the 2 and 3 digit. I just didn't see the 8 digit coming again but it's mirror was in the workout. I did use the 3-4 rundown and it is right there.

4 03 8 4 8 3 0 4 8 3 8

4 3 2 3 3 3 4 3 2 2

7 5 5 6 7 7 5 4

3 1 2 5 3 9

4 3 8 3

KS really needs a double even vtrac, and a 3 double or 8 double wo... [ More ]

Reply #83

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 00:59:00 GMT

Great tip!! I actually use color code for the groups in my spreadsheet. I can see it instantly that way (looks cool too),

I generally play what has played and then really consider what is out.

Reply #82

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 00:57:20 GMT

Go Amber!!

Good luck

Reply #81

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 00:54:45 GMT

Thanks, I really like the way it is bringing some new ideas to the table and respectful.

Hope you are getting some of that green stuff. MO is doing some consecutive pairs right now

Reply #80

amber123 — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 18:04:58 GMT

The mid winner was 73. Glad I don't play mid drawings. I'll get them tonight. Hopefully..

Reply #79

grwurston — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 16:23:10 GMT

I do a separate skip- hit chart for A,B,C (just the letters) also to help decide which group to play. If you find one group hits way more than the others over the long term, then track it on a daily basis. Did it hit, yes or no. And then just stick with that one group.

Reply #78

MzDuffleBaglady — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 16:08:04 GMT

@ JayHawk58.

I like reading this thread!!!!

Good Luck to you.

Reply #77

amber123 — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 16:02:09 GMT

On the other hand..lol

Since we know the back number goes up by one, 8 out of nine times, at least in August...things can change though, all I have to do is play 0-9 with 2.

02 12 22 32 42 52 62 72 82 92

This way we take the guessing out of the first position and guarantee a straight hit. I prefer o play for real in tonight's draw. And that's what I'll do.

Reply #76

amber123 — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 15:51:57 GMT

Florida finally got a consecutive for September. Last night's winning pick-2 winner was 21.

Let's see if this works for mid or eve for today. And since the back number (1) went up by one consecutively in August's winners 8 out of 9 times, my best picks will be the combos that end with a 2. That means the 1 in 21 will go to 2. They are highlighted in green. And since a lot of mirror talk has been written here, as a bonus, I will add 72 and 62.

2=20 21 22

1=11 12 13

Reply #75

ALX — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 03:13:48 GMT

082...0 can bring doubles and/or consecs, one or the other next maybe? +- gave 08 pair but no repeat from 491 and 05 and 28 hit three times in the last few games. Pairs like to do that and often within the last four games day/day, nite/nite or last eight day/nite combined. I like your consecs, mirrors and doubles better

Reply #74

Jayhawk58 — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 03:02:32 GMT

I like your reasoning. And it pays off. The draw was 082. It was in the rundown, but I took it out because my chosen key was the 5 and 9.

4 0 3 5 4 5 3 0 4 5 3 5

4 3 8 9 9 3 4 9 8 8

7 2 8 9 7 4 8 7

9 1 8 2 3 6

1 9 5 9

9 can be 0 in the rundown as there isn't one when finished with it. So there is the pair 08 in the left column and the 2 even in the third row of it. Should have stuck with the 0........

Still surprised it wasn't a double. So it goes.

Reply #73

Jayhawk58 — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:42:09 GMT

It can be difficult. This post has the best explanation by the creator of the 3-4 rundown.https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/304465

This thread, while not strictly about the 3-4 rundown does have a lot of good info on it in the last several pages.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/304124

If that doesn't help PM and I'll send you the sheet I made to help me.

Reply #72

ALX — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:36:41 GMT

No, because I've been around long enough to really like simple methods. 054 was 05 mirror pair and 4 (45 consec pair) but 05 has played three times lately so I liked 4 and its mirror 9 as keys more than 0 or 5. 054 also has a root sum of 9 (0+4+5=9) so that makes 9 even stronger as a key number. If you add the front pair 0+5 and subtract them you will get 05, but we already know 05/50 have just played three times lately and are probably not good choices as stated. If you take the rear pair 54 an... [ More ]

Reply #71

Jayhawk58 — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:25:48 GMT

In Pick 3 there are 10 consecutive pairs. Add a digit from 0-9 would make 90 box combinations.6 x 90 = 560 consecutive straight combinations.

This thread is about what happens after the consecutive or mirror pair. That amount would depend on how many key digits matched with how many predicted pairs.

Reply #70

adobea78 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 23:09:08 GMT

Probability is a measure of prediction, odds is the wager's bet. These two functions are mutually inclusive.

How many consecutive pairs do we have from the 1000 sets of Pick 3?. Try to count how many consecutive pairs for this 1000 sets.

.

{0,0,0} {0,0,1} {0,0,2} {0,0,3} {0,0,4} {0,0,5} {0,0,6} {0,0,7} {0,0,8} {0,0,9} {0,1,0} {0,1,1} {0,1,2} {0,1,3} {0,1,4} {0,1,5} {0,1,6} {0,1,7} {0,1,8} {0,1,9} {0,2,0} {0,2,1} {0,2,2} {0,2,3} {0,2,4} {0,2,5} {0,2,6} {0,2,7} {0,2,8} {0,2,9} {0,3,0} {0... [ More ]

Reply #69

tleddon85 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 23:05:11 GMT

the 3-4 rundown is so hard to understand. i really don't get the whole balancing the number i have tried and i always seem to mess it up. i tried to do it with out balancing the number but that's a hit and miss. can you explain the the balancing thing just a little bit

Reply #68

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 21:29:02 GMT

Did you do 3-4 based on KS

Reply #67

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 21:22:45 GMT

That 3-4 rundown will work for P-4 too ALX. No pick 4 here in KS, so I'm not up on it. Blackapple has some stuff for it.

Reply #66

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 21:21:10 GMT

Way to go ALX !!

I'm going doubles for tonite. EEO, OOO. Got a little nervous on root sums, so didn't reduce too far. Picked 4 and 9 for my keys.

229 445 566 199 119 335 355

Good Luck

Reply #65

ALX — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 20:29:53 GMT

Ya budddy and the mirrors and non doubles too.It's a little more complicated but it's all there in P4 too

Reply #64

ALX — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 20:26:24 GMT

This is fun and I don't even play KS! I had 4 9 1 as keys

Reply #63

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 20:11:53 GMT

Any GA players? According to these numbers, that means you could narrow it to one of three digits apprx. 2/3 of the time.

Reply #62

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 20:06:45 GMT

Way to go lakerben. Got the pair

Reply #61

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 20:06:04 GMT

Thanks grwurston. I use your idea of grouping root sums as a reduction tool often. Also really like this line in your signature... The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

Reply #60

grwurston — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 19:52:54 GMT

I have noticed that one # from a consecutive pair often repeats in the P4 as well. Great topic

Reply #59

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 19:46:29 GMT

Well, I did do workout. Couldn't get combos down far enough so just went with 4-5. Got it down to 13 combo's. Didn't double up on anything (chicken). Should have seen the repeat on root and sum coming. KS is just stuck on this repeat thing. Even the vtrac was a mirror of last two draws. So still got a box out of it.

Sep 03 MID 491

Sep 02 MID 550 EVE 054

Sep 01 MID 009 EVE 928

Aug 31 MID 862 EVE 501

Aug 30 MID 209 EVE 887

Aug 29 MID 646 EVE 352

Didn't really expect another m... [ More ]

Reply #58

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 19:39:29 GMT

Thanks Goseahawks. This is what LP is about. Sharing information and ideas.

Reply #57

Goseahawks — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 17:45:30 GMT

when a consecutive pair hits , it bring a high sum combos....445-899 within 6 days...usually less ..that's fact...look in my past posts for this info., adding what Jay hawk58 HAS TO OFFER , ADDS MORE FUEL TO THE FIRE

00 11 22 33 44 55 66 77 88 99 01 12 23 34 45 56 67 78 89 90

Reply #56

lakerben — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 17:05:43 GMT

000

333

411

Sums 9,0,6.

Reply #55

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 16:21:56 GMT

Sep 02 MID 550 EVE 054

Sep 01 MID 009 EVE 928

Aug 31 MID 862 EVE 501

Aug 30 MID 209 EVE 887

Aug 29 MID 646 EVE 352

Still not a believer?

In observing the draws, I find consecutive pairs to have stronger results than mirror. So we are presented with a consecutive touching it's third draw (98) and a new consecutive following a mirror with that mirror in its makeup. I do tend to mix things up with how I figure what's going to happen. Have faith in vtracs as part of what I do. Vtr... [ More ]

Reply #54

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 15:55:31 GMT

Your welcome. I find the 3-4 rundown to be the key for my success. It took awhile to fully comprehend it, how it shows what can happen and how it is good for multiple draws. It does seem to work a little differently for each state. You will find what works best.

I see you have been a member for a long time, I have read a few of your posts in the past. You seem methodical, and very observant.

Good luck

Reply #53

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 15:51:46 GMT

Welcome, adobea78! All views are welcome for discussion.

I am going to assume this is directed at Wisconsin. It follows along with what was posted earlier. I don't even understand most of what was in it, except the reference to coin flip. Your views support what I have said for years.....One game, many ways to get there.

I have played pick 3 for a long time. I have never been behind long. For this year alone I am very much in the black.

Again, I'm not trying to prove odds although I th... [ More ]

Reply #52

ALX — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 14:58:21 GMT

Thank you, very interesting. 504 KS evening was an interesting result.....and the progression does continue

Reply #51

adobea78 — Fri, 02 Sep 2016 23:32:53 GMT

Pick 3 has total of 1000 sets with 1000x 9 pairs: Ratio of any pair will be 1/9000. I think pairs should be considered in its totality(box or straights, doubles are subjective conditions for the wager).

The digit games P2, P3,P4,P5 has the same pool size, so 1/100 is a summary of all pairs add 0-9 to the pairs and you get 1000 of P3. The 1/100 pairs (P2), considering 3C2(9 ways-with order and digit repeats) will give 9000 any pair. So a test on even 300 draws does not say much, Knowing the pr... [ More ]

Reply #50

Jayhawk58 — Fri, 02 Sep 2016 22:52:58 GMT

Sep 02 MID 550

Sep 01 MID 009 EVE 928

Aug 31 MID 862 EVE 501

Aug 30 MID 209 EVE 887

Aug 29 MID 646 EVE 352

The progression continues...... I was looking for the 8 or 9 but covered the 0 as well. 8 combo's, only 2 doubles. It came in the 550. I had it box.

Reply #49

Jayhawk58 — Fri, 02 Sep 2016 19:09:35 GMT

Nice observation, ALX. I'll post links to the 3-4 rundown for you.

www.lotterypost.com/thread/302655

www.lotterypost.com/thread/304465

This should get you started. It can take awhile to figure out. Be patient, do backtests for a good period of time.

Reply #48

ALX — Fri, 02 Sep 2016 17:17:13 GMT

I agree, very nice reasoning. Could you explain how a 3-4 rundown works please

Reply #47

Jayhawk58 — Fri, 02 Sep 2016 17:02:07 GMT

If my memory is any good there are 56 box combinations for each digit including doubles and the triple....... So if you are using 2 digits as keys, you have reduced the field to 112 combinations. Using good reduction techniques, you should be able to easily reduce to a point of playing for a profit. How much you return on what you put in depends on that point and playing multiples.

I personally use the 3-4 rundown to make the pairs, wheel it using the wheeler available on LP ( one of the reas... [ More ]

Reply #46

Jayhawk58 — Fri, 02 Sep 2016 16:47:09 GMT

I did do some new stats. Pretty convincing to me. Have we exceeded the rate above random? I'll leave that to you to figure.

I did KS for the same period for three additional years. Now KS was a single draw state then. Then I did GA for the same period for three years. GA was a 2 draw state the whole period.

KS:

2015: 62 draws 27 occurrences of consecutive pairs. 24 returned one of those digits in three draws. Draw 1:12 Draw 2:9 Draw 3:3

Mirrors:14 occurrences 12 returned in three dra... [ More ]

Reply #45

ALX — Fri, 02 Sep 2016 16:42:00 GMT

I agree with Tia and the 009 result from the 501 proves your point well with th 0 from the 50 mirror pair, the 0 from the 01 consec pair giving 00 and the 09 consec from the 209 past mid number. Not only does one of the consec pairs repeat within three days but often the non consecutive number will hit as its mirror, (5)=0 from 501. Since doubles hit more often than mirror pairs they are worth looking at and they do the same with the non double number coming back or as its mirror within three ga... [ More ]

Reply #44

Jayhawk58 — Fri, 02 Sep 2016 12:35:43 GMT

50/50 filters can be effective. For those not familiar, a few links.

www.lotterypost.com/thread/164643

www.lotterypost.com/thread/280727

www.lotterypost.com/thread/293875

www.lotterypost.com/thread/245804

Reply #43

Tialuvslotto — Fri, 02 Sep 2016 11:15:21 GMT

This thread has been very interesting and informative.

Reply #42

CARBOB — Fri, 02 Sep 2016 08:33:19 GMT

Using those numbers tells me that it's close enough to be be used as a 50/50 filter.

Reply #41

Jayhawk58 — Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:37:57 GMT

It's ok. It happens.

I would like to commend you Wisconsin.

Our dialog and exchange of information has been very pleasant compared to some of our past discussions. This is the LP I remember.

Reply #40

Wisconsin3054 — Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:37:51 GMT

To be considered evidence that a consecutive pair increases the chance that one of those digit shows in two or three draws? Maybe 500 or 1000 draws, with a positive (or hit if you want to call it that) rate decently higher than what would be expected by random.

My opinion only. Just was thinking what it would take for me to really look at increasing my play when I saw the trigger. maybe 10000 draws to significantly increase my play. Maybe I'm too picky, but I figure if it works over the past... [ More ]

Reply #39

Jayhawk58 — Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:35:09 GMT

I'm not trying to prove any odds changing concerning pairs. I am more interested in what happens after the pair. I'm not even trying to predict pairs.

What I am trying to show is the probability of a digit occurring after the pair. If it is 50/50, and I am recognising that any digit can occur but these happen more, or enough, to be predictable. That is a indicator I can use.

So the totals become Random.......55 55 draws that are based on random, not knowing what could be there.

Conse... [ More ]

Reply #38

Wisconsin3054 — Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:31:19 GMT

I believe the probability of any distinct pair showing in any order, any position in a single pick 3 draw would be 6%, or 6/100, as I believe there are 60 different combinations out of the possible 1000 that would include a distinct pair.

Distinct Pair AB, X=any of digits 0-9

Possible combinations:

A B X = 10 possible

A X B = 10 possible

B A X = 10 possible

B X A = 10 possible

X A B = 10 possible

X B A = 10 possible

60 total.

Sorry Jayhawk, I don't think the probabi... [ More ]

Reply #37

Jayhawk58 — Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:27:44 GMT

How large a sample would you like

Reply #36

Wisconsin3054 — Thu, 01 Sep 2016 23:05:06 GMT

1/100 would be the probability of a straight pair in a pick 2 game, the probability of a pair in pick 3 boxed would be better but I think it might be a little complicated to actually calculate. I'll see what I can do and post it later.

Reply #35

adobea78 — Thu, 01 Sep 2016 22:31:07 GMT

Back to basics, the odds of any pair for each UNIQUE draw is 1/100, this odds remains constant, any draw history will not change the odds.

Reply #34

Wisconsin3054 — Thu, 01 Sep 2016 20:53:51 GMT

I guess you would have to put me in the still doubting camp, although I think I would better describe myself as not convinced . Reason being that the only evidence you've put forward doesn't show your system coming out any better than one would expect with random selections. Small sample size so far though so I don't know how much meaning to put into it.

Reply #33

Jayhawk58 — Thu, 01 Sep 2016 19:34:18 GMT

Playing all potential combos of 3 would have to be the only way to go. Of course, that's after doing a 3-4 rundown, eliminating combo's to a playable point.

Today's MID-009.

So this is the way it looks since start of the post. Still doubting? Of course I filtered it out. Actually this time I didn't ever have it in. I went to the next 3-4 rundown and didn't consult yesterday's. Gave it up too soon. It was there. This has been an issue for me. I think I'm going to start including all pa... [ More ]

Reply #32

Wisconsin3054 — Thu, 01 Sep 2016 18:26:50 GMT

I also think you have to remember that when you say if you picked the 3 digit, you would hit next draw , that is only true if you also picked the 5 and the 8 digits, unless you were playing all of the potential combos with a 3.

Reply #31

Wisconsin3054 — Thu, 01 Sep 2016 18:24:30 GMT

How do you determine what the random digit to select would be? Randomly. :)

It is not difficult to determine the expected results using random over 2 draws. Pick any 2 distinct digits. In the next draw, in each of the three places of the pick 3, there is a 20% chance that one of those two digits will show. To calculate for the 3 places, you have to use the negative side, so for each place there is an 80% chance that neither of the digits will show. For 3 places, that comes out to .8^3, which

Reply #30

Jayhawk58 — Thu, 01 Sep 2016 18:11:34 GMT

There is overlap of pairs. Some show as consecutive and mirror pairs. As last night's draw was. 501...consecutive is the 01 and the mirror would be the 05.

However I approach them as individual and would play as such. The numbers are indicative of the draw the result was in. Third draw was 7 occurrences. Obviously the best way to play this is the next 2 draws.

I looked at the random as hitting in two draws and I think that would be hard to figure. For instance if the draw was 368. And you... [ More ]