Do the numbers really NOT hold any memory?

Reply #39

Greenfox — Wed, 27 Apr 2022 08:12:57 GMT

Hello and thank you much for the reply eddessa!

You said exactly what I was doing.

So good to hear from you!

Best of luck to you

Reply #38

Greenfox — Wed, 27 Apr 2022 08:11:26 GMT

Thanks Jeet. I put a lot of thought into it as to how it's going to be. Money is green and the name of these games, so just follow the money.

When you are short on time, you have to get it out there. And I'm not going to be here forever so...

One thing about me Jeet is I NEVER say anything out of the way or about anyone, unless given a reason. I'm not made that way. You apologized so, we will progress past ALL of it. As far as I'm concerned. So I apologize for what I said. There's more imp... [ More ]

Reply #37

eddessaknight — Sat, 16 Apr 2022 22:25:32 GMT

lOTSOF VERY POTENTIALLY GOOD PROJECTIONS

COLR BLUE + YELLO ALWAYS = GREEN

(PATHAGERIAN THEORY ON NUMBERS, COLORS AND MUSIC NOTES)

GOOD LUCK WISHES

EDDESSA_KNIGHT

Reply #36

JeetKuneDoLotto — Sat, 16 Apr 2022 01:24:03 GMT

You know foxy...

Your current color scheme is quite appealing to the eye.

I dont really read everything you say, because you say a lot. But I always look at the pictures.

I didn't even read that last scathing message you sent me, because it begun to hurt.

After the first two scathing paragraphs, I was like... this is not productive.

I am sorry I got you banned.

But the color scheme is pleasing. It reminds me of a wheel utility that I used to use, that actually had a VERY G... [ More ]

Reply #35

Greenfox — Sat, 16 Apr 2022 00:55:07 GMT

While I have a minute, on those percentages and having to do with holding memory. This will give me every new draw, the percentage that each winning number has been drawn for each draw. If 1 was the first number and had been drawn 1 17.25% on game #4,557, this will keep track of it as the 1 has been drawn 17.25% where it does that. On draw #4,723 if that 1 was drawn again, it may be 17.44% so it has changed, but it will keep it as that again. It does the same for every position, and for every dr... [ More ]

Reply #34

Greenfox — Thu, 14 Apr 2022 03:43:58 GMT

I'm sure this will go unheard by the majority, and that's cool, but there are some out there that can and will use it. This again, can be used by keeping the memory of, as it was exactly to get another step into winning. If it doesn't stay as it was, the way I use it, my results are COMPLETELY off and none of what I do would be useful.

By saying using so and so percentage, I mean this. (I can give this out for any interested and not put out too much info. You ARE NOT going to use this info t... [ More ]

Reply #33

Greenfox — Thu, 14 Apr 2022 01:58:11 GMT

This is from the second pass and the 201 jackpot win possibilities. (Using draw history from a NCEL .csv spreadsheet.)

Draw is the draw number that the jackpot win was still there.

Date is the same thing. followed by the winning numbers from each draw.

The jackpot that was available at the time of each draw.

Options per columns are the amount of starting options for each position that was left after filtering.

The matrix at the time of each draw is next. Main and bonus balls.

Reply #32

Greenfox — Thu, 14 Apr 2022 01:47:09 GMT

I've ran the Powerball through this. The same way as I have all these other ones. We've only had 1,690 draws here, but that was plenty of data to get it going. It has to have a certain amount of draws input before it's going to do anything. Each game is different in this area, but are real close with only a couple to a few being the difference. In those 1,690 draws that I ran, there were only 1,571 that I could get data from then way this works. Here are the results. (To save space and still be... [ More ]

Reply #31

Stat$talker — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 17:27:29 GMT

Will Smith = vapid vessel of love, unlike my cat Pixie the love sponge.

Yep,..the Luv of Numbaz makez ya do cRaZy thangz..!!...Except resign from the RRRS..

Reply #30

Greenfox — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 05:54:39 GMT

And while I'm here and have time, this is some results for an RNG draw. This is from the Pennsylvania Treasure Hunt 5-30 draw.

The first set of results is from the first pass it makes. It goes through all the draw history from start to finish with this first pass. All this does is set the numbers up using some internal math, sorts them into four different groups. These four groups are a mandatory grouping. That means each option for each position gets put into these 4 groups depending on how... [ More ]

Reply #29

BobP — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 05:34:43 GMT

We get close and then some guy pops up and ruins everything. When you have a fish tank, it's quickly learned the more one's hands are in the tank, the sooner the fish die. However, if one fish were eating all the other fish, it needs to be removed. Either by us if we have the means or by a higher power that needs to check on the tank. How many times do we have to go through this to learn. Maybe we're just entertainment. sigh

BobP

Reply #28

Greenfox — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 04:52:15 GMT

Hello again Wit and good to hear from you!

It's been a pain recreating and going through it all, but that's when stubborness pays off. I guess anyway. We'll see.

Not sure about improved, but will say I'm happy with where it's at finally. Still some spots that need sorted out to finish it up, but is playable.

No, no actual O/E or D/U filtering programmed yet. It's more of a group selection process. That filtering just fried my brain when it came to cutting out options. Too much what if... [ More ]

Reply #27

Greenfox — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 04:10:24 GMT

Hello Jeet,

That's pretty much what I'm saying with all this.

Your favorite fake president? Can't read what it says.

Best of luck to you

Reply #26

Greenfox — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 04:05:25 GMT

Good to hear from you BobP! Hope all is well there with you and yours!

From the beginning of man, and woman, the mind has created. It's where we came from and what we're here for. Our minds think of it, our hands make it so. We're made to create. We create through necessity, thoughts of an easier way. Sometimes by pure luck. If luck is even such a thing. Wisdom improves creations.

Speaking of car springs. I'm sure the first springs wasn't much count. After time, someone thought of a better... [ More ]

Reply #25

Greenfox — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 03:30:13 GMT

Why are you not still using this? If you can eliminate that many full combinations with one pass, there has to be a way to run it again to get rid of more combos. I'm not sure I could be getting this kind of results and abandon it.

I understand if the 3 and 4 draws are paying off well enough, but this seems to be doing very well and it would take a lot of 3 and 4 wins to make up one win with this. I don't know what kind of filters you have running in this, but may have some ideas to help cut... [ More ]

Reply #24

Greenfox — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 03:17:53 GMT

How are you jimj?

Thank you! It's been a process for sure. But fun for the majority of it.

You have some nice looking programming there also! I like how it looks like you can change to any game easily. I'm not good enough to do all that. I have to do mine one game at a time with this. One game at a time is all my brain can process anyway.

Getting rid of lots of combinations or even groups of numbers is the only way to go. Yours appears to get rid of all combinations of numbers that do... [ More ]

Reply #23

Greenfox — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 02:59:22 GMT

As always, good to hear from you garyo,

I do not know what numbers are exactly or what their purpose is. If they even actually have one. I only know the things I've saw with them since working on this craziness using them. Saw a lot of things that just should not be possible. That's another topic. It's made me wonder what they were teaching in school when I was there and most definitely now.

Although I was doing algebra in the third grade, I've forgotten most math's since being out of scho... [ More ]

Reply #22

Greenfox — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 02:23:17 GMT

Hello cottoneyed,

Thanks for a respectful and honest reply! No name calling, just straight up opinion on the subject.

The data I posted is from a mechanical, balls in hoppers draw. We don't have RNG here. And what I'm proposing is real close to what you're saying. Only it's not exactly. I'm talking about using the results, as they happened exactly, reverse engineering them and programming to remember what happened where, most, when. By doing so, it changes the inner structure from what wa... [ More ]

Reply #21

Greenfox — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 02:09:09 GMT

That sounds much better than a thermonuclear cloud.

Not exactly sure about the rest of that, but setting a trap I understand.

And abide by in this mess. Only a trap without bait, or not thought out, is just a net in a pond not knowing if any fish are even there.

You don't chase the fish around, you find out where they are and bring them to you. Net in hand.

Reply #20

Wit24 — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 21:30:22 GMT

Hey Greenfox

Looks like you have managed to improved the system, you say without O/E or U/D filtering that's super awesome. Keep up the good work ...

Reply #19

garyo1954 — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 18:56:48 GMT

BobP I like your thoughts.

We (as a species) will probably never know all there is to know about life in the universe. Most of our science is based on theory and working hypothesis and statistics.

I suppose its like watching a cat. I'm always learning things from my animals. Ma has five kittens.

For the first couple of days she was there for their every need.

Then she would be there when they called.

I noticed last week she'll stay in the perimeter, but she doesn't go to... [ More ]

Reply #18

JeetKuneDoLotto — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 10:15:23 GMT

I dont think its so much that the balls have memory. But if MATH is correct, and there is a scientifc basis behind the art of conjecture, than the numbers have to remember when it is their time to show. Otherwise the number 1 would just hit everyday forever, like its a Bill Murry movie or something.

You just have to apply the correct or most fundamentally sound...

Reply #17

BobP — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 05:59:27 GMT

In astrology, math, numerology, science, numbers count for something unlike lottery where the numbers don't even stand in for numbers. On the other hand, entire industries are built around memory in materials. All the springs in our cars have a memory of their neutral position and return to it as soon as possible, as do the plastics in lottery balls. I'm not married to this, but it's certainly within the realm of possibility the properties of the plastic each ball is molded of is slightly differ... [ More ]

Reply #16

garyo1954 — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 05:52:30 GMT

Absolutely...........................a good question!

Maybe, like bar-b-q sauce, the balls have no feelings of jealousy? They are a product of reasoning and logic.

Or maybe they're playing Rock, Paper, Scissors to see who gets drawn next?

Maybe memory and understanding aren't the term we're looking for?

Perhaps symmetry is a better description (which then leads back to another unanswered question of natural position).

Still, people continue to find digits, pairs, triples,... [ More ]

Reply #15

Stack47 — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 04:11:35 GMT

Wondering about the Texas Lottery pre-drawing tests. When a ball set fails, bagged, and placed back on the shelf, do the balls remember the days when they banged into each other while in forced air cabinet?

Do they turn away from that one numbered ball that was showing off and drawn to many times

Reply #14

jimjwright — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 04:00:55 GMT

Here is another Pic of state of game before tonight's draw

In this pic we show we are tracking the frequency of the game and ranking the numbers from Low Freq to High Freq.

We can see a trend that a low frequency number has hit in the last 12 consecutive draws.

So we could say we might assume that 1 number would come from 44, 17, 13, 38, 47 will hit in tonight's drawing.

What this means that any combination made up of 5 numbers from the other 43 remaining numbers are dead combina... [ More ]

Reply #13

jimjwright — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 00:41:43 GMT

Hello GreenFox,

It looks like you have written some fine software/algorithms to calculate numbers to play by position. Congrats.

Here is a pic of software that I wrote probably 10-12 years ago for draw 5 games.

It tries to tackle the problem differently by eliminating lots of combinations at once based on trending characteristics.

The Any Columns tells you how many draws it took to capture 1 ball, 2 balls, 3 balls, 4 balls, 5 balls. So for the last draw it took 13 previous d... [ More ]

Reply #12

garyo1954 — Wed, 30 Mar 2022 00:00:43 GMT

Interesting question. Such a question requires some careful thought and consideration in a large sense.

One person might define a number as just a symbol used to define a cout, an amount or a length, width, height, rainfall, snowfall, speed of the wind, temperature, or waves.

Then let astrologers or someone with experience in numerology, or even dreams define what numbers mean. And compare the definitions. Different perspective; different answer.

666? 911? 432? 1? 7? They all m... [ More ]

Reply #11

dr san — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 22:11:45 GMT

the lottery is = a thermodynamic cloud between repetitions, delays = short, medium and long with its cycle, and the empty spaces ( delta) inside the matrix of rows and columns in the cartezian, set a trap (a grid

Reply #10

cottoneyedjoe — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 15:49:25 GMT

Physical balls? No.

A computer pseudo-random number generator program? Hard to say because there are many PRNG algorithms, many methods of seeding the particular algorithm. Ideally, each time the program is run the output should not depend on the previous output and the seed should come from a true-random source. But, there is always the factor of human error and negligence in programming. Maybe somebody out there with poor training in lottery security wrote a program that uses the previous o... [ More ]

Reply #9

Greenfox — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 07:00:10 GMT

What I'm saying with this is, the past has to stay the past. If your, whatever way you are working on this craziness is updating with every new draw, your results are going to be off. Well, with what I've been doing that was the case. Might be the case for you also? However you may be going at it. For me, keeping everything that was, as was, made a world of difference. When my old data updated along with the new, it changed how mine worked. Since correcting that, it's done much better and been m... [ More ]

Reply #8

Greenfox — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 05:43:42 GMT

Everyone needs a goal.

It's kinda metaphorically speaking.

I had a box of rocks once upon a time. I poured them all out and called them the rolling stones. My drunk friend just had to yell Rock and Roll.

They never had a hit though until they stopped. Then they just kind of laid there.

I do have some arrowheads still though. They're pretty sharp.

Reply #7

Stack47 — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 04:08:55 GMT

First time I ever saw someone try to prove inanimate objects have memories, but heard of being dumb as a bos of rocks .

Reply #6

Greenfox — Mon, 28 Mar 2022 08:03:07 GMT

From there and since this is not being understood, there is this. Let's say that the above draw options was set to the percentages that memory said was the best viable options. Then the next step would be to filter on down. Now I can filter one movement at a time for each, OR, I can filter all the 9 movements that I track with one step. Each position will have a certain amount of options that those 9 movements can do. For this draw, there was 4 options for the 1st position. 9 for the second, 5 f... [ More ]

Reply #5

Greenfox — Mon, 28 Mar 2022 06:46:37 GMT

Some more testing if those balls remember anything.

This is the past few LFL draws per here and the NCEL.

The past few draws now with the possible win available with the internal filters on and no odd or even, down or up filtering.

Still with just some internal filters and no odd even or down up filtering. This is the options that was available for the 3-20-2022 draw.

All available options for each position with using 100%, 95% and 90% of the numbers.

The same thing o... [ More ]

Reply #4

Greenfox — Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:53:29 GMT

Hello dr,

Why 44 positions? Well, because that's the way it is when working with ascending. It's actually 44 options per position. With a 5/48 draw, you CAN NOT play 45-46-47-48-48. You can, but the terminal is going to return your play slip, unused, with errors. When using ascending, you have to cut out 1 from the second position. Then you have to cut out 1 and 2 from the third. So on and so on. You also have to cut off the top ends of each. So you have the same amount of options per, but so... [ More ]

Reply #3

Greenfox — Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:44:35 GMT

Hello Speler,

I never forgot the programming tips you shared with me years ago. They sure helped. Only I never switched to the date format you suggested. Only because it is different here. So I thank you for your help with it still.

What I'm doing with this, isn't exactly a cheapskate method, lol. It's more of a way I want to do it and won't settle for any other way.

Not sure you and dr are picking up on what I am doing. I NEVER play more than 5 lines for any 5 draw or 5+ game so what I... [ More ]

Reply #2

dr san — Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:29:13 GMT

hello, 44 positions, why? you have to put the draws in ascending order = from 5/48

example = draw 40,02,36,19,12= increasing=02,12,19,36,40, so for the first two positions it goes from 01 to 25, you have to focus on getting the first two numbers right = if you get it right you will be in from 01 to 25 we have 300 initial doubles that can be filtered, of course you have to convert the registration of the draw in the crescent, you hitting the initial double will hit the reference or base will b... [ More ]

Reply #1

Speler — Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:06:07 GMT

Not sure what you want to do. You have your candidate numbers and with those you can do your positional system or full wheel. That costs to much, takes to many players to join your pool, so you must pick or use a positional wheel or use a filter-wheeler that does all. Anything with x if y ends in a fraction of a list of combinations. If the jackpot winning combination effectively was in that list, it still must be in the few lines that you decided to play or that the wheel left over.

I posted... [ More ]

Do the numbers really NOT hold any memory?

Greenfox — Sun, 27 Mar 2022 07:33:39 GMT

So I've been testing here. A lot. Since I had to start from scratch, and have been rebuilding here, I wasn't about to just throw something together and see what sticks. What testing I had done before, has been nothing to what I've done to this new work. Yes, you read that right. I lost everything I had created over the past 15+ years of working on these games. With the exception of a few pieces here and there, and some work that some friends had saved, I pretty much had nothing left. Luckily, my... [ More ]