How to deal with the random factor of lotteries?

Reply #66

garyo1954 — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 04:58:17 GMT

You are right. We never know what game he is talking about, what the matrix is, where he got the stuff or any context. Its by design since when he is asked, he won't answer. Stops a lot of people who at one time did respond.

I'll respond but nothing detailed. The more you give him the less he understands and expects more explanation which means you're giving him more information for nothing in return.

In this case....

in lotteries dealt with repetitions, short, medium and long d... [ More ]

Reply #65

Stack47 — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 03:40:15 GMT

We never get to read exactly what it is San is looking for. The Dr ask for patterns but when asked what type of patterns, we get silence. The good news is we can learn a thing or two from many of the responses.

Reply #64

rcbbuckeye — Wed, 07 Sep 2022 21:14:50 GMT

why didn't you play them and win???

See? I even asked why didn't you play them and win .

Reply #63

rcbbuckeye — Wed, 07 Sep 2022 21:13:23 GMT

Of course.

It did occur to me that you're too chicken and don't trust the P math like you want us to think.

Reply #62

Stat$talker — Wed, 07 Sep 2022 20:11:52 GMT

Did it eevah occur to you that mAyBe I didn't playit...? Duuuhhh

Reply #61

garyo1954 — Wed, 07 Sep 2022 18:07:41 GMT

Yeah. There is never a point to be made in these posts. dr san brings things from other sites here expecting us to make sense of it, explain it, and give him clues on how to program it.

Either that or he's working on completing his collection of hand drawn gauss curves.

He's not satisfied to have enough to paper an entire fishing village.

G

Reply #60

rcbbuckeye — Wed, 07 Sep 2022 13:31:11 GMT

I'm pretty sure it did predict'em Wednesday..

I've read this post a few times, and keep wondering if the P Math predicted the winning numbers....

why didn't you play them and win???

Oh, my bad. The mean LO's would have changed the numbers and prevented you from winning.

Reply #59

Stack47 — Wed, 07 Sep 2022 04:08:48 GMT

I keep hoping there will be a point made but after reading there is no randomness in lotteries , I doubt the point will ever be revealed.

Reply #58

garyo1954 — Mon, 05 Sep 2022 16:31:54 GMT

Where ever you got that put it back.

What I'm reading: Track each number in every position until they have all shown at least once in each position in ascending order.

Then use the last draw for reference points??????

A number that is drawn the most in the previous 120 draws will be drawn the most in the next 120 draws???????

Test it and let us know how if it works because it doesn't make much sense from here.

G

Reply #57

dr san — Mon, 05 Sep 2022 10:17:21 GMT

in lotteries dealt with repetitions, short, medium and long delays until closing the cycle of each number in each position in ascending order, the reference point is always the last draw, find patterns and reference points (a basis for not walking in circles )) is the priority. a number that in 120 draws was drawn more times in the next 120 will also be the most drawn,

Reply #56

adobea78 — Sun, 04 Sep 2022 23:33:52 GMT

'There is no randomness in lotteries', then back up this statement!

The premise of every lottery game is clear: The draws /events are mutually Exclusive.

The question is , how do you use a tool like stats. to work around mutual exclusive events?.

There many stat tools, but I usually focus on Bayes and Frequentist concepts to get around this.

Bayes in simple term, is changing probabilities when gathering data, the problem is your PRIOR(very elusive).

Frequentist as the name im... [ More ]

Reply #55

garyo1954 — Sun, 04 Sep 2022 21:34:36 GMT

Remember that every game is going to produce its own characteristics over time so there is no one set of universal rules.

Most things you apply to Pick3, Pick4, Quinto (and the 0 to 9) games aren't going to apply when you get into the jackpot games.

Then the jackpot games are going to have some differences like a bonus ball, or 2 bonus balls, or the bonus ball coming from the main ball set. Couple that with the difference in matrix sizes and the disparity of even and odd numbers and sta... [ More ]

Reply #54

dr san — Sat, 03 Sep 2022 12:26:06 GMT

ok garyo, thank you

Reply #53

garyo1954 — Fri, 02 Sep 2022 17:14:08 GMT

First thought is just throw out the one draw and look at the normal distribution. Yes, you can estimate the probability of an event that has never occurred with no data. You'll get the same data presented to the committee when they are considering adopting a new game. But one draw is not going to move the needle on any game with 100,000 or 500,000 or 12,000,000 combinations.

After 1000-5000 draws you have a better idea of whether the game will produce more low or high numbers and more even... [ More ]

Reply #52

Stat$talker — Fri, 02 Sep 2022 02:23:25 GMT

Don't know whut it'z called wheaa YOU are , but in the Werld of Probability, It'z known az a Constant Variable

The Empire State Bldg in The Big Apple, iz a LandMark.

Reply #51

dr san — Thu, 01 Sep 2022 23:58:14 GMT

Is it possible to find landmarks in random lotteries? ex= last draw is a good reference point

Reply #50

Stack47 — Wed, 31 Aug 2022 02:41:16 GMT

The chosen one was suppose to bring order and harmony to the galaxy and we all know how that turned out.

May the Force be with you

Reply #49

dr san — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 12:50:43 GMT

well thought out garyo, yes there will always be a random percentage, even in a sequence of consecutive draws, ok the synchronicity of crossings will be important

Reply #48

garyo1954 — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 10:07:52 GMT

To me, there is a certain amount of randomness. And no matter how well you are prepared, you aren't prepared for it when it happens.

I've come to the point where I believe you have to go beyond the normal stuff everybody uses. I'm taking a different approach, running different data charts, and looking deeper to get a better overall understanding of everything involved. Not much fun writing a program and watching it run for 24 hours, and in the end it may produce trash, but that's a chance... [ More ]

Reply #47

Stat$talker — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 09:16:46 GMT

Randomness iz Governed by Lawz Order, set in Divine Intellectual Stone by the adequate Creator ..!!

Don't git like thoze arrogant Scientists, that claim, The Universe iz Leakin ..when they have no idea how big the Universe iz...for one would have to see the entirety of AnYtHiNg, claiming to be leaking..

-Stat$talker

Reply #46

dr san — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:56:32 GMT

there is no randomness in lotteries, etc. there is only adequate or inadequate preparation to deal with a statistical universe. look at the harmony and synchronism in the universe, always looking for balance, the balance between numbers and correct statistics is the solution!!1, yes of course we still have to find the right path of at least 80% of the bet

Reply #45

Stack47 — Tue, 30 Aug 2022 00:56:23 GMT

Don't know where to start picking which five numbers out of 69 or 70 will be drawn even in the next 20 years. But I know how to buy a QP and hope I get lucky.

That doesn't mean players can't have profitable pick 3 and 4 systems though they probably won't win millions.

Reply #44

Soledad — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 13:15:16 GMT

This is the problem I have most of the time. Even if something could be tied together by the time it's done, it's over. Even if 6 times in a row, eventually the 7th it won't happen, for whatever reason. That last sentence is true in a lot of ways. By the time you figure out all the ways to bet, the cost doesn't really justify the win many many times. Which is why the win4 or a true jackpot, even second prize is the only real game to think about. Maybe a lucky scratcher also. But in the end it do... [ More ]

Reply #43

dr san — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 10:36:06 GMT

ok cotoney, but if we don't risk anything, we'll never get anything in the lottery, even if it's secondary prizes, the main prize can come by hitchhiking, so the goal is to hit the smaller prizes. each lottery has its own characteristics, the formula of ion ffg shows this well, of course not a single event (draw) is complicated, but several draws, there is a search for the balance of numbers, mathematicians do not win the lottery because they lack a game of flexibility

Reply #42

Caps — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 03:14:04 GMT

Pick a set of numbers, any set of numbers, they all have the same chance of showing in the

next draw. Even the numbers from the night before would make a good set to play. Unless

the game you play has a flaw then there is no way to predict the numbers.

Using filters and on a good day I can expect around a 80% of my choices to be correct. After

many test using many different tools I have concluded the randomness of a lottery draw is

around 80% predictable, some draws less an... [ More ]

Reply #41

garyo1954 — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 01:54:02 GMT

Well allllllllll-righty then......

I can go back to riding my horse, rob a train, hunt a moose and roast it over the campfire for dinner.

Maybe not rob a train. Too much hard work. And if you stand in the middle of the track waving it down it just runs over you (every time).

G

Reply #40

Stat$talker — Mon, 29 Aug 2022 00:11:03 GMT

..uuh, can aNyBoDy hep decipher whut da Hell he'z tawkin bout?

Hope sOmEbOdY got the Tag numba of da Truck dat hit'im..!!

Heck, I don't think even Artimis 1 planz to go soo FAR out..

Reply #39

Stack47 — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 23:54:06 GMT

Even if they knew the fix was in, San would probably still look for patterns. Might take years, but hopefully they will figure out every drawing is exactly the same as the very first drawing that had no prior drawing statistics.

Reply #38

cottoneyedjoe — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 17:14:19 GMT

Am I cottoney? Like a seersucker hat? The gauss curve is slippery, you should decelerate as you round the bend. Slow all the way down and pull over. 70% of the air inside your car is recycled, so roll down the windows and get some fresh air. Take a deep breath. Take off your seersucker hat and take a sip of water. The lottery is random, merm o. Breathe in. Breathe out.

Reply #37

JeetKuneDoLotto — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 13:43:26 GMT

For a Brazilioan truxker. Its better to focus on the water car.

Well the spark plug is rigged to explode hydrgen.

Its kind of :SCIENCE TRUSTED!!!

The voltage resonance requency is a National Security Secret. J Robotoid B would prefer a winter of death and destruction for you.

Dont use this science to advance humanithy. A winter of death and destruction is what Joe robotoid biden wants for you.

I should have focused on this in collage.

Honestly I did not think the Illumin... [ More ]

Reply #36

dr san — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 12:03:58 GMT

hello cottoney= but the central band of the gauss curve? and the trace of patterns left in previous draws? if at least we can predict 70% inside the bet it would be good ex= a 6 number lottery predict 4 numbers the remaining two would be random

Reply #35

Soledad — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 08:38:36 GMT

You have to take a loss first. Some throw it away before the win comes. I certainly have. The keys to tell whether a number is good are there to play. The time that it takes for a good number to show is something else. But, since each draw is random to itself, each individual bet for each individual number should be considered. But, what you end up with will not be the 500 dollars that is promised. Maybe it'll be 130 dollars, or 350 dollars. Maybe you play box and it's 40 dollars in the end. Is... [ More ]

Reply #34

garyo1954 — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 05:28:39 GMT

I believe you are right. Knew the guys name was Ron but couldn't even guess the last name.

I'm up checking this program. Should end in 20 minutes or so. So I had to check in.

G

Reply #33

cottoneyedjoe — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 05:14:05 GMT

Take a deep breath, Dr. San. Accept that lotteries are random. Take another deep breath.

Repeat until you achieved inner peace and have enough change to buy a quick pick.

Reply #32

Stack47 — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 04:31:22 GMT

Umpires are making really weird calls in all levels of baseball from little league to the majors. They probably read or heard about some obscure baseball rule and can't wait to make that call. Watch one call a catchers balk in a game with 9 and 10-year-olds.

Reply #31

Stack47 — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 04:23:19 GMT

Former major league umpire Ron Luciano wrote a book, The Umpire Strikes Back and I believe he said some of Nolan Ryan's fastballs sounded like strikes.

Reply #30

rdgrnr — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 02:50:03 GMT

Yeah, the poor soul, he was just too high strung.

Reply #29

Stat$talker — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 01:19:50 GMT

Pooooe Fella..

Az if winning a Jackpot ain't already hard enuf.

Reply #28

rdgrnr — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 01:17:29 GMT

I'm not one to laugh, but...

Reply #27

garyo1954 — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 01:07:21 GMT

A lot of words that run around in a circle.

You've already said that crossing strategies will bring you to 70%.

You keep saying that, nobody is disagreeing, and you still haven't added anything new.

So what strategies are you crossing? How do you get everything to 70%?

G

Reply #26

Stat$talker — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 00:46:22 GMT

Did it look like to you I was saying the drawing was on Friday?

Uuuh, Yeah it did, and obviously to utherz too, but that'z only becuz, that'z xactly whut you said..!!

Don't git upset wit people cauze YOU seemingly suffer from Alzheimer'z..

Maybe you should git you some Prevagen ..Commercialz sayz it duzz wonderz fa ya memory..So, even if you pick the wrong PB numbaz, ..you'll at least play it on the RiGhT Dayz..!!

Mondayz, Wednesdayz Saturdayz ..

-Stat$talker... [ More ]

Reply #25

dr san — Sun, 28 Aug 2022 00:10:49 GMT

the strategies for crossing are those that come out on average 70% of the draws, that is, that central band of the gauss curve, a strategy alone is nothing, it doesn't make summer, already combined with another one changes the story

Reply #24

garyo1954 — Sat, 27 Aug 2022 23:15:31 GMT

You're right! My bad.

He is bad even by little league standards! LMAO!

G

Reply #23

rcbbuckeye — Sat, 27 Aug 2022 23:01:41 GMT

I think you mean Angel Hernandez.

No idea how he gets to be a MLB umpire for this long with the ridiculous calls he makes.

Reply #22

garyo1954 — Sat, 27 Aug 2022 22:01:31 GMT

Stack, I believe Alex Hernandez has created the RANDOM strike zone!

Sorta like the Nolan Ryan pitch when a batter complained, How do you call that a strike?

And the ump told him, It sounded like one!

But yeah, a lot of ball players and managers are getting the short end for being right!

G

Reply #21

rdgrnr — Sat, 27 Aug 2022 21:22:17 GMT

You seem a little confused.

Here's what you said: What does it tell you about the Friday PB numbers?

Hope that helps

Reply #20

Stack47 — Sat, 27 Aug 2022 21:21:06 GMT

Lots of managers are getting tossed because a couple umpires moved their strike zone outside the green boxes. Or maybe some of the umpires are using random strike zones

Reply #19

Stack47 — Sat, 27 Aug 2022 21:14:35 GMT

Did it look like to you I was saying the drawing was on Friday?

Or I could have asked if you were going to post Probability Math .. it'll tell ya whut numbaz up..!! before the drawing but you'll probably post your predictions after the drawing or as usual not at all.

It'z NOT MY Math..!

Do you believe someone actually owns math

Reply #18

garyo1954 — Sat, 27 Aug 2022 20:59:14 GMT

Well, I haven't downloaded and studied the file you sent me so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

If you keep calling it random but work on solving it, 1) either you're as crazy as I am, or 2) you are trying to determine if it's random or not, or 3) you don't truly believe it's random.

Now, this is random....

Random makes it impossible to know what you're looking at or what to expect.

Crossing strategies may be new to you, but people have posted about it foreve... [ More ]

Reply #17

dr san — Sat, 27 Aug 2022 18:47:01 GMT

using a cross of several strategies and playing several draws, can help in predicting 70

Reply #16

garyo1954 — Sat, 27 Aug 2022 16:36:34 GMT

An answer!!! You have to answer that question for yourself. (Is there any lottery website or organization that says, This game is totally random? )

A real question: If it's random will you quit working on it, quit playing and save your money? Or will you continue to do what you do?

On the other hand: If it's not random what will you do?

What if we decide it's like a major league pitching chart?

Every batter knows the pitch has to be in the blue box to be a strike.... [ More ]

Reply #15

dr san — Sat, 27 Aug 2022 12:27:50 GMT

a question= if the lotteries are random!!!, because the filter by the previous draws, works well!!!, between the minimum and maximum of numbers of the registered previous draws

Reply #14

JeetKuneDoLotto — Sat, 27 Aug 2022 02:06:06 GMT

I suppose that the honest answer would be, that if you,

see and feel that the game (you are focusing on) is is too random and too chaotic at any particular (y axis of time)

Then its probably wiser and smarter and MORE BETTER too NOT PLAY AT ALL . .

It is very hard not to play. The Fear equation in a gamblers mind and heart is a great variable. Greed is powerful and lust for money powerful too!!

Take casino gambling as an example.

If a player loses 100 bucks, then his emotion

Reply #13

dr san — Sat, 27 Aug 2022 01:28:58 GMT

if you look at the probabilities by position or by all positions together, you will see that by position separated in the crescents we have repetitions and delays in the central range of gauss, in several draws not only in a single event

Reply #12

AllenB — Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:59:02 GMT

Well Said BobP and also Cmoore50.

Excel is a Sifter and a Mixer.

Random Randomizes the Correct Sift/Mixture.

We keep coming up with new Sifts only to see them be as random as their probabilities suggest.

Good Mixing CMoore

Reply #11

Stat$talker — Fri, 26 Aug 2022 22:28:51 GMT

Reply #10

garyo1954 — Fri, 26 Aug 2022 21:18:13 GMT

100% Agree.

Doing the same thing with the same data is going to leave you with the same outcome as the last 50 times you did it.

Insanity........

G

Reply #9

Cmoore50 — Fri, 26 Aug 2022 20:20:09 GMT

You need to crunch the numbers. That's what many of us are doing. It's a never ending endeavor. However you tackle the lottery, it has to be extensive. One filter won't get you there. Half a dozen filters won't get you there. I'm on my 3rd year in trying to crack the RC5. Not there yet, but getting closer by the day. I still have ideas I haven't implemented yet. It can be very time consuming. But I enjoy the process. Once you see a filter or angle with some promise. You dig deeper and deeper and... [ More ]

Reply #8

rdgrnr — Fri, 26 Aug 2022 12:30:22 GMT

Can't argue with that!

But hey, maybe they play PB on Fridays in Kentucky just for him.

Reply #7

dr san — Fri, 26 Aug 2022 08:06:53 GMT

ok we can use a reference = the last draw as a base, or the last three draws, then we would see repetitions, short, medium and long delays and cycles and frequency to be able to find a bias (a path) the gauss curve shows the two extremes and range center of probabilities, so how random is everything

Reply #6

Stat$talker — Fri, 26 Aug 2022 06:40:02 GMT

I'm pretty sure it did predict'em Wednesday..but, even if YOU used Probability Math on the PB Game for Friday , it wouldn't tell you 1 thang,..cauze it requirez attention to minute detailz...which YOU obviously lack.. Oooopz... for PB iz neevah drawn on Fridayz ..!! So, the Oddz ov that happenin would be

Stack47 timez aGaInSt you..

When will you ever Learn

It'z NOT MY Math..!

-Stat$talker

Reply #5

BobP — Fri, 26 Aug 2022 05:47:09 GMT

Look into Chaos Theory. What goes on in the mixing chamber is pure chaos. At times chaos can mimic normal and can be predicted as what's expected to come next. Picture a lively stream or river with whirlpools forming and vanishing, it's chaos yet one can predict where the next ones will form. It isn't a system, just a way of thinking what's going on in the mixing chamber.

BobP

Reply #4

Stack47 — Fri, 26 Aug 2022 03:43:30 GMT

Did your probably math predict that 3-5-47-48-67 + 7 would be drawn on Wednesday?

If not, why not?

What does it tell you about the Friday PB numbers

Reply #3

Stack47 — Fri, 26 Aug 2022 03:26:33 GMT

Every state lottery say their drawings are random so any patterns we think we see are random patterns. Guessing results like mostly even or mostly high are random guesses. Playing wheels using less than all the 70 MM numbers or less than all 20 digits in a pick 2 drawing are wheels with random digits and numbers. And most big jackpot games winning tickets are random QPs.

Using all the numbers or all the digits on wheels or other similar methods is an option for dealing with the random drawi... [ More ]

Reply #2

dr san — Thu, 25 Aug 2022 23:30:48 GMT

ok stat, thank you

Reply #1

Stat$talker — Thu, 25 Aug 2022 22:57:18 GMT

In Fact, you use the ONLY thang that handlez randomness.. Probability Math .. it'll tell ya whut numbaz up..!!

Naah... eeeh,..Whut'z UP Doc

How to deal with the random factor of lotteries?

dr san — Thu, 25 Aug 2022 20:04:12 GMT

How to deal with the random factor of lotteries?

by filters, patterns, references, wheels, etc....