Powerball... off-the-wall theories...

Reply #18

hypersoniq — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:57:58 GMT

here's an obsevation that may or may not be of use in drawing #139 (2/4/2004)in 138 drawings, the 3 has been drawn in the FIRST position (sort order) 4 times.3 of those times, it was followed by the number 6 in the next draw...do we have a possible good bet with a 6 as the position 1 number

Reply #17

fja — Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:34:16 GMT

do you think given identical situations and running the balls through in the same set and pulling them out at the same indentical time,,,given that all situations and dvents are equal from the first second draw....would the second draw have the same numbers as the first draw? that is a question that has bugged me for awhile now...has it ever been done

Reply #16

golotto — Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:11:09 GMT

there would be many variables to consider in a multi-dimensional approach to the reverse engineering of each draw and the numbers it ultimately produced at a specific moment in time. since we are dealing with mechanical machines and 53 or 42 celluloid or rubber balls in each...we might be dealing with such variables as estimated humidity in iowa within the studio (the drawing site) at the moment of the draw date. what can affect the tides would certainly be suspect as affecting the statistical o... [ More ]

Reply #15

hypersoniq — Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:54:49 GMT

How about reverse engineering?The key may be in the past draw history...perhaps something labor-intensive like developing a list of observed truisms for each number in each position... or having the stats at hand and trying to decode the differences.... find out what indicators may have been available (hindsight is always 20/20)... only trying it back in history, not for the draw where you have no results yet...

Reply #14

hypersoniq — Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:45:17 GMT

Good stuff! at a given instant in time .... good point, most lottery systems miss the temporal component completely... a multi-dimensional Quantum approach ... all well and good, but first the dimensions need to be defined.statistics are static... maybe something more dynamic needs to be added to the mix...

Reply #13

golotto — Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:00:55 GMT

the Quantum Mechanical Model of lottery prediction... early scientists working on atomic theory proposed some pretty novel ideas to their counterparts. i'm sure that at the time their peers treated them with more than skepticism. great thinkers such as JJ Thompson who discovered the electron, Niles Bohr who proposed the 'quantum model of the atom' i.e. that electrons in the atom are not free to travel in any orbit but are governed by the quantum theory. and Ernest Rutherford who showed that the... [ More ]

Reply #12

hypersoniq — Thu, 29 Jan 2004 03:01:58 GMT

come on, I can't be the ONLY one with off-the-wall theories for powerball, can I

Reply #11

hypersoniq — Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:59:21 GMT

I think I will end up trying to deconstruct the last draws over time, moving backwards against the history to see where the numbers might have come from, to seek possible indicators...this thread is all about off-the-wall theories anyway...

Reply #10

hypersoniq — Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:57:11 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by goose on January 25, 2004 dont make things too complicated or else you will lose the way if you ask me, things are not complex enough... We need to look outside ofthe current state of lottery analysis... pick up technology from another arena (data mining, neural networks, fuzzy logic) and get more robust formulae (calculus comes to mind).the learning curve is steep, and the only way to prove anything is to win...I don't have the extra cash to play using trapping and b... [ More ]

Reply #9

goose — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:55:01 GMT

dont make things too complicated or else you will lose the way

Reply #8

hypersoniq — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:33:23 GMT

the reason for the columns as listed above is to represent the way the balls are before being dumped into the machine...white balls = 5 columns (11)(10)(11)(10)(11) = 53powerballs = 5 columns (9)(8)(8)(8)(9) = 42when arranged as such...01|__|22|__|43 01|__|__|__|3402|12|23|33|44 02|10|18|26|3503|13|24|34|45 03|11|19|27|3604|14|25|35|46 04|12|20|28|3705|15|26|36|47 05|13|21|29|3806|16|27|37|48 06|14|22|30|3907|17|28|38|49 07|15|23|31|4008|18|29|39|50 08|16

Reply #7

DreamLotto — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:57:14 GMT

Hello Hypersonic and other lotto comerades:Why not try dividing your PowerBall into:THREE parts of 17-18-18 balls?!Or FOUR parts of 13-13-13-14 balls?!This way, you can also better include decades that overlap/double up that is, say a pattern of two single numbers and three numbers in thirties...etc! You can then base your picks on the majority/percentage of the balls that fall in the respective segments (sectors on pie chart)...

Reply #6

hypersoniq — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:29:37 GMT

next up... we are all relatively familiar with decades...Decade 1 = 1-9Decade 2 = 10-19Decade 3 = 20-29Decade 4 = 30-39Decade 5 = 40-49Decade 6 = 50-53In order to get a clear picture of the state of the balls before the draw, I propose the columns chart...White ball MachineColumn 1 = 1-11Column 2 = 12-21Column 3 = 22-32Column 4 = 33-42Column 5 = 43-53Powerball MachineColumn 1 = 1-9Column 2 = 10-17Column 3 = 18-25Column 4 = 26-33Column 5 = 34-42I don't know if there will be any benefit at all, bu... [ More ]

Reply #5

goose — Fri, 23 Jan 2004 06:44:41 GMT

dont try to pick up which number is more probably appear.leave this issue to the combos.what you need to know is every possible numbers for every 5+1 position

Reply #4

Lotto Czar — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:19:26 GMT

Hyper,maybe this can be adapted to the match 6. Remember the only way to match 10 of 6 drawb (out of 18 on the ticket) is to have numbers repeated. The lottery that plays itself. You pick 6 with twelve extra more drawn.. Win a chance to win extra. Different. Who knows

Reply #3

smd173 — Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:58:39 GMT

hyper,At least you are trying different ideas. No harm in that. Keep at it.

Reply #2

hypersoniq — Sun, 18 Jan 2004 12:55:46 GMT

my pick did not do so hot :-(Still studying the whole thing...

Reply #1

golotto — Sun, 18 Jan 2004 02:30:19 GMT

also a repeat of 33 in rows 133 vs 97pattern in row 131 4+3=7 same as in row 95 6+3=9rows 130 and 94 41 repeats as marked as pb +19 in 124interesting red ball sequence in rows 93-95...+32,+33,+31and look at rows 129-130 versus 93-94 in both cases the red ball increased by 1 in the next drawing. +1,+2 vs +32,+33

Powerball... off-the-wall theories...

golotto — Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:07:25 GMT

123-133 25,26 then 18,19 then 24,25 skip one then 16,17 skip one then 41,4287-97 25,26 skip three then 50,51 skip one 35,36 and skip two then 33,34the two number sequences? 25,26 on both verticle columns at the second drawing position. ie row 124 and row 88.