Help with system - DLM

Reply #41

tdempsey — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:04:16 GMT

Oops - tom@tomdempsey.com.Tom Dempsey

Reply #40

tdempsey — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:03:18 GMT

I played 10 tickets for that game.I never play 100 - that is the number of draws I calculated to cover the ranges of my system. A pool would help in that area.Tom Dempsey

Reply #39

Lottery_Analyst — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:29:06 GMT

Tom,Congrats on the 4 of 6 FL Lotto win. Sounds like you are doing great since we last spoke via email. How many tickets did you buy for that win? Are you still up to around 100 tickets or you were able to lower the number needed?Thanks,JohnLA

Reply #38

Webmaster L — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:57:23 GMT

I tried to send you an email Tom Dempsey but your address is not complete.Please send me an email to webmasterleroy@yahoo.comThanksWebmaster LeRoy

Reply #37

goose — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:43:57 GMT

and what about a hitting 6+0

Reply #36

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:30:27 GMT

4 out of 6=$70-$100, 5 out of 6=$1,000-$5,000

Reply #35

goose — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:05:20 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by tdempsey on February 12, 2004 I hit 4 out of 6 in the Florida Lotto tonight.My improvements seem to be working. Thanks for the advice on this board.Tom Dempseywhats the prize hitting 4 out 6>thanks and what about hitting 5 out of 6

Reply #34

tdempsey — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 02:34:21 GMT

Email me at tom@tomdempsey if you want to pool in Florida.Tom Dempsey

Reply #33

kekmaklu — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 02:21:53 GMT

tdempsey,count me in...

Reply #32

tdempsey — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 03:30:12 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Fantasy5 on February 13, 2004 I only had 1 number in last night's Florida Lotto.I would be interested in your system. Fantasy5Hi!The system isn't ready to sell although I can see it in the future - but I am looking for people to pool in Florida and other lotteries.Tom Dempsey

Reply #31

Fantasy5 — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:44:41 GMT

I only had 1 number in last night's Florida Lotto.I would be interested in your system. Fantasy5

Reply #30

tdempsey — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 05:26:04 GMT

I hit 4 out of 6 in the Florida Lotto tonight.My improvements seem to be working. Thanks for the advice on this board.Tom Dempsey

Reply #29

tdempsey — Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:48:33 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on January 28, 2004 I would think 10-12 would be a good choice for a default setting, but should be open to change by the user depending on game size and what they see happening in their games. I play a 5/36 and a 6/53 game, can't say they should both use the same number of past draws to determine recent hot/average/cold. I once thought there should be enough draws so each number had the chance to be drawn twice, now I'm not sure how much that matters. One pro... [ More ]

Reply #28

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:18:35 GMT

BobP you must live in FL? I'm in Miami

Reply #27

BobP — Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:10:38 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by tdempsey on January 27, 2004 Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on January 27, 2004 wow, thanks for finally putting actual numbers to these terms! I like the idea of warm also... that explains alot...any particular reason for using 10 as the number of previous draws?I experimented with different sets for the previous draws and found 10-12 works well. The bottom line is you have to pick a set and stick with it.Tom DempseyI would think 10-12 would be a good choice f... [ More ]

Reply #26

tdempsey — Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:47:47 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on January 28, 2004 pairs seem to work for some, but personally I would have to dismiss pairs as coincidence, since each ball comes from a separate machine.I don't play 3/4 games - only lottos. That is what DLM is geared toward.Tom Dempsey

Reply #25

hypersoniq — Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:03:13 GMT

pairs seem to work for some, but personally I would have to dismiss pairs as coincidence, since each ball comes from a separate machine.I think of the pick 3 not as 1000:1 but as 3 sequential games of 10:1... only prob is you have to be right 3 times in a row...

Reply #24

tdempsey — Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:13:02 GMT

So - any thoughts on pairs

Reply #23

tdempsey — Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:01:16 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on January 27, 2004 wow, thanks for finally putting actual numbers to these terms! I like the idea of warm also... that explains alot...any particular reason for using 10 as the number of previous draws?I experimented with different sets for the previous draws and found 10-12 works well. The bottom line is you have to pick a set and stick with it.Tom Dempsey

Reply #22

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:38:17 GMT

BobP your not using Gail Howards Smart-Picks feature correctly that's why your not getting a good selection of numbers to wheel.Here's what you do first you clear the ScoreBoard Chart,do the reset function and set all Weights to 1 then select 20 numbers and use the Overrides Chart to eliminate the 16 numbers you left out from your selection of 20.Now the program chooses from a Pool of 20 instead of 36 next you set the past draws for analysis to 60.For the Smart-Picks you use Option 3 or 4 and... [ More ]

Reply #21

hypersoniq — Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:25:43 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by tdempsey on January 27, 2004 Using the last ten draws, a hot number is one that comes up at least 2 times, a warm number is drawn once and cold is not drawn at all.wow, thanks for finally putting actual numbers to these terms! I like the idea of warm also... that explains alot...any particular reason for using 10 as the number of previous draws

Reply #20

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:24:28 GMT

There are 2 categories of players the First wants the Program to do all the work the Second wants to select there own numbers based on the analysis charts in a Program.I'm in the second category but I do have software that selects and wheels numbers automatically but it's not consistant in trapping the winners but the only program that is an exception is Gail Howards as far as selecting a GROUP of numbers to wheel.

Reply #19

tdempsey — Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:29:40 GMT

BobP > It seems like there is a segment of lottery software authors who connect a data base to a statistics program, toss in a few wheels and head to market.I totally agree with most of your post, BobP. I have been building an application and generating numbers for over 7 months. The app even checks the past draws and calculates the winning.Statistics are very important in lottery prediction - but its not the only thing. I have created a set of business rules to help narrow the picks - not the n... [ More ]

Reply #18

tdempsey — Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:14:58 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on January 26, 2004 Just don't use any lottery terms trademarked by Gail Howard, her company makes you change them or you get sued.Lotto-Logic (Timersoft) software and http://www.lotto-logix.com are different unless I misunderstood your meaning. BobP Am I using any terms trademarked by Gail Howard?Since I haven't read her book, I don't know.Tom Dempsey

Reply #17

BobP — Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:10:29 GMT

No offense intended, but IMHO what lottery players are looking for in lottery software is to1: Open the program2: Enter the last draw3: Click on Predict or Forecast4: Perhaps enter a requested quanity of numbers for wheeling5: print or port the numbers to wheeling/filtering to select a wheel for that many numbers or build one from scratch6: Take the lines to the 7/11 and play7: Collect on winning tickets, repeat.Now I'm not saying a whole lot of charts and graphs aren't interesting, but they sho... [ More ]

Reply #16

tdempsey — Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:58:54 GMT

Pairs TripletsI have tracked pairs for awhile and wonder what are people's thoughts on the parameter.One of my newer additions to DLM is taking the pairs not drawn after a certain date and exluding the pick containing them. I use all the draws from the beginning and build a table and any pairs not drawn after 2001-01-01 are discarded.There are 12 pairs never drawn in Florida Lotto to date. Just looking at pairs in a different way.Tom Dempsey

Reply #15

tdempsey — Tue, 27 Jan 2004 03:42:02 GMT

Thank you!I incorporated the hot/cold rule into DLM today. It looks good and can't wait to test it Wednesday.I added a twist - I have tables for hot, warm and cold. Using the last ten draws, a hot number is one that comes up at least 2 times, a warm number is drawn once and cold is not drawn at all.My test modules rejects draws based on the unacceptable ranges for each variable.This does answer a nagging question I have always had about hot/cold numbers not drawing very often and warm numbers co... [ More ]

Reply #14

tdempsey — Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:49:02 GMT

Reply #13

BobP — Mon, 26 Jan 2004 05:05:53 GMT

Just don't use any lottery terms trademarked by Gail Howard, her company makes you change them or you get sued.Lotto-Logic (Timersoft) software and http://www.lotto-logix.com are different unless I misunderstood your meaning. BobP

Reply #12

tdempsey — Mon, 26 Jan 2004 02:04:09 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on January 25, 2004 D501,1-16 and D502,17-32 is called Low-High Analysis in most lottery software(Low=1-16)and(High=17-32). Thanks! I gathered that. :)One reason I define these terms in this thread is so people have the vocabulary I use. I am always open to refining that vocabulary but I like the term d501 because it is related to a (d)raw, a high-low number being 50/50 of the possible numbers and the (d501) first half of the range or (d502) the last hal... [ More ]

Reply #11

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:44:15 GMT

D501,1-16 and D502,17-32 is called Low-High Analysis in most lottery software(Low=1-16)and(High=17-32).

Reply #10

Colin F — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:57:26 GMT

Correction:Replace I certainly include myself here. with I certainly exclude myself here. Colin F

Reply #9

Colin F — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:06:44 GMT

I have pretty well finished my system after some two years and am doingthe less interesting stuff like making it applicable to more of the Lotto variations.One of my first priorities was to set up a Computer Model to test my ideasby doing runs where the Draws are generated randomly, the selection criteria is applied to producing the Combinations to play and then the Wins are calculated. (It's a very inexpensive way of playing and not without it's moments of excitement.) The idea is not to worry... [ More ]

Reply #8

tdempsey — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 16:31:56 GMT

Thanks, Bob!I am testing the existing systems now. I used Lotto Logic a few years ago and I'm testing Lotto Pro right now.Most systems do not do everything I want but it is good to see what they are doing.Tom Dempsey

Reply #7

BobP — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 05:08:06 GMT

To get anywhere new you must first walk over the foot prints of those who have gone partly there already. There is a long list of existing lottery software many of which offer free demos and trials which means you can find out what parts of the wheel have already been invented and are in common usage. Here is a list of most of the known lottery software that is supported. BobPhttp://www.lotto-logix.com/lottosoft.html

Reply #6

tdempsey — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:54:24 GMT

I also use LD with success.To me, sum roots are similar to sums, but less specific. If you don't play a specific sum, you will not win the game.I have not used announcers other than pairs drawing together. I dropped the pairs a few months ago but may revisit it soon.Mode and range are two I haven't tested. I'll look into them - I have mode on my to-do list.

Reply #5

tdempsey — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:42:21 GMT

I have a frequency table I call the rank table. This is a very important table as explained later. I noticed some people use 50 draws but I prefer 26 - being the last three month for a biweekly draw.I also have a similar rank table for all draws.My skip average table is also 26 weeks. I have found this table really useless.

Reply #4

hypersoniq — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:34:47 GMT

number skips, how long a number has been missing from the drawings (by position or in generalfrequency, the total number of times a number has been drawn over the game's historyannouncers, what numbers tend to follow other numbersLast Digit, Last digit of a number, for 23, LD=3sum roots, adding each digit of the sum to end up with a smaller number, sum 214 = root 7 (2+1+4)MODE, most frequently drawn number by positionRange, the MAX and MIN values of each position

Reply #3

tdempsey — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:30:22 GMT

The basics:The most important number in a lottery is the sum, followed by even/odd and 50/50.I refer to 50/50 as d501 and d502 - the first half of the numbers available is d501, and the second half is d502.Ex: Fl Mega MoneyD501 = 1-16D502 = 17-32Every draw has a sum and the totals for even, odd, d501 and d502. I use these to filter my draws each game.Any other numbers important here? (I have a few more)Tom

Reply #2

lottaloot — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 03:21:36 GMT

Count me in too

Reply #1

hypersoniq — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 03:11:30 GMT

I'm always up for a theory discussion! count me in

Help with system - DLM

tdempsey — Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:56:17 GMT

Hi!I have a system I programmed called Dempsey Lottery Manager (DLM) and have put quite a bit of work into it. The application is programmed in PHP and MySQL.I'm asking for permission to post items of discussion in this forum to help refine the program. The discussions with not be technical but deal with theory. Of course, this would give away much of my system but I believe we all use the same processes so it would stupid to think I am the only one with the smarts.I play Florida Lotto and Mega... [ More ]