The most important things to know..P-3

Reply #58

Clipper — Thu, 13 May 2004 19:10:47 GMT

Dr Pepper = what I was talking about was taking all Even digits and all Odd digits and working them in pairs to achieve a root sum .For instance, the Even digits 0-2-4-6-8 would be....02-04-06-08-24-26-28-46-48-68. The sum of each of those pairs would be 2-4-6-8-6-8-10-10-12-14 (in their order of sequence. As you can see 2 of the pairs will Sum 6, two will Sum 8 and two will Sum 10.Once you determine which Root Sum to use (and it's a 3 dif digit number) you then use 1 or more pairs with... [ More ]

Reply #57

Dr Pepper — Thu, 13 May 2004 18:50:42 GMT

Clipper could you explain a little more on that sums filter? Would you also tell about the pairs filter? Do you also mean Root Sum being the 10 sums or do you mean roots a different way

Reply #56

Clipper — Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:21:21 GMT

Have a Root Sum System where you track the Sum of 2 Even digits and 2 Odd digits with all possible combinations of 1-3-5-7-9 and 0-2-4-6-8. Two Odd digits will always Sum Even the same as 2 Even digits. Once you narrow it down to the Sum and which pair it is, you have 1 in 5 Odds for the 3 digits that play. This of course works only with 3 different digit combinations.

Reply #55

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 14 Apr 2004 18:15:08 GMT

You can also use Even-Odd Root Sums like thisOdd Root Sums=1,3,5,7,9 and Even Root Sums=2,4,6,8 after choosing whether Odd or Even Roots will come up you would choose 3 Roots from the 5 Odd and 3 Roots from the 4 Even.LottoMan is a perfect Program for selecting your indiviudal Root Sums from your chosen group.It has a Chart for analysing Root Sums to help select the Even or Odd Group you would print out a 20draw history and Highlight all the Even roots in Pink and all the Odd Roots in Blue.

Reply #54

Clipper — Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:51:56 GMT

I tend to agree with Pick-4-Master about Sums. I also divide the Sum Totals into 3 groups, however, slightly different then Pick-4-Master. I go Singles 0-10, Teens 11-20 and Twenties 21-27. I then number the groups 1-2-3 and track those digits to determine what denomination will come next.Just yesterday I was able to determine that Sums 11-20 would not play at all and eliminated a bunch of combinations leaving me only two denominations to consider.Then with other criteria zero in on the comb... [ More ]

Reply #53

WIN D — Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:22:23 GMT

I am working on a color chart that shows the distribution of these rows and the repeat numbers as shadow numbers. Until then you have the 10 wheels that cover all the 6 way number combinations. Good Luck with the wheels. Mike's Web site is a great resource for extra wheel combinations.

Reply #52

WIN D — Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:45:06 GMT

If you like using the short version 10 column Sums Chart...you will love this. Most indicators are weak or asleep most of the time......and that's OK cause we don't care. What we care about is when they are not. That's when they show up on the Radar and we decide if they are worth extra consideration ...or a set up for a Trap. Here is an example of another good indicator that's asleep most of the time and might come in handy one day. Just one more confirmation.... or as an excluder of certain... [ More ]

Reply #51

MrSteel01 — Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:20:40 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on February 01, 2004Thanks for the #220 chart John....it looks big until you compare it to the 1000 number chart. A lot of people have never looked at what they are up against by actually looking at the whole chart. Here it is: 00005010015020025030035040045050055060065070075080085090095000105110115120125130135140145150155160165170175180185190195100205210215220225230235240245250255260265270275280285290295200305310315320325330335340345350355360365370375380385390... [ More ]

Reply #50

WIN D — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:27:26 GMT

Here is the Chances Are Chart to figure your chances on these 50/50 groups.1 in 2 2 in 4 3 in 8 4 in 16 ....most Stinkers flip back the other way here..if they make it here 5 in 32 ....* This is where I miss alot. I wait to long for the next safer one. 6 in 64 ......pretty safe place to start a Trap. 7 in 128......rare 8 in 256......very rare 9 in 512......lucky if you see one of these a year 10 in 1024...almost never 11 in 2048 ...It's a rigged game! Call the cops..LOL 12 in 4096 13 in 8,... [ More ]

Reply #49

WIN D — Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:53:50 GMT

The Multiplication Rule for Independent Events The Multiplication Rule for Independent Events states that if several dvents, A1, A2, ..., An, are independent, then P(A1 A2 ... An) = P(A1) * P(A2) * ... * P(An).What does this mean? 50/50Applied to coins, A1 can be the dvent of getting a heads on the first flip of the coin. A2 is the dvent of getting a heads on the second flip of the coin. An is the dvent of getting a heads on the nth flip of the coin. Since the probability of each dvent is 1/2... [ More ]

Reply #48

JAP69 — Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:05:00 GMT

Reply #47

WIN D — Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:24:47 GMT

Heads 50/50 Tailsd A beginners pad and pencil starters Kit This is the most important part of the games in my opinion. It's best to break the #1000 chart into as many balanced groups as possible. Start big and work your way down to the smaller groups of numbers. If, you want to start your hobby off small with a pencil and paper, one of the best things you can do is start off with a RED and BLACK pencil. Each day write down the draw on your number list using this... [ More ]

Reply #46

Teufellj — Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:56:09 GMT

Hello folks,thought to drop a hint or two. First off, it's important to me to keep every thing simple. The more that's added in then the harder the game becomes and that includes mental stress. Migrain's are not funny when you are trying to make a buck or just enjoying the challenge. Another thing that works quite well for me is this: for states that have six day plays; i use five days to anticipate the sixth day. And seven day a week states I use six days worth of information to find the sdvent... [ More ]

Reply #45

Millennium — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:58:37 GMT

Win D: I'm beginning to think you are a lottery savant! You come up with the most interesting charts! Thanks very much.

Reply #44

winsumloosesum — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:25:36 GMT

Thank you Win D.wsls

Reply #43

WIN D — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:18:39 GMT

What's Hot and Cold ? Here is one way to look at it. It's the expected Math average hit rate in a certain amount of draws. This is a good chart to copy until you are able to do it on the fly. 10 days 3 hits per number 15 5 20 6 25 8 30 9 40 12 50 15 60 days 18 hits per number If you want to find out if a digit is overdue in a single position then divide the number of days by 3. Ex: Number #6 has been... [ More ]

Reply #42

JAP69 — Mon, 16 Feb 2004 21:15:44 GMT

Anyone have different methods methods of choosing digits to create wheels to make a list of numbers to play

Reply #41

WIN D — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 17:08:16 GMT

This seems to be a good time to throw in another chart for the benefit of new players. It's also a good learning tool . It boils down all the #720 (6 way numbers). Here it is: If you know just one Number !If you are sure that one number is going to hit and it's not a double, then look at the 36 numbers under each of the one number columns. Each column has all the possible 6 way combinations for that number. Cover all 36 numbers for .50 cents each or 18.00 and you win. 100... [ More ]

Reply #40

Winner2Be — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:50:35 GMT

Great Post!!! Thanks for all the information and knowledge about the Pick 3 game. Really awesome information here---on a personal note-John thanks again for all that you do for SC game!!! You Rock!Happy Winning to all my lotto buddies

Reply #39

JAP69 — Mon, 09 Feb 2004 23:59:05 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by winsumloosesum on February 08, 2004 Thank you everyone for your contributions.Very interesting information on how each of you pick your numbers.The most interesting question is How and When do we pisk our numbers to play?You have showed the set-up but the most important is How do you determine what Groupings such as explained by BobP and When do we play vs. when don't we play? Does it come down to Hot Frequency from past history??Very informative information especi... [ More ]

Reply #38

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:58:05 GMT

Pick-3 Play Day Indicator:In order to use this chart you need to have the program P34Lotto it has a Filter called Identical Filter which basically analyses mixed and double numbers.It does this by using this code to indicatethem(ABC=mixed 487)AAB=double 449)(ABA=double 737)(ABB=double 377)and(AAA=triple 999.I seperate them into 2 groups leaving out the Triple because it doesn't come up enough to include it.Green Group=(ABC,ABB)and Red Group=(AAB,ABA)when the Green group is due I play when... [ More ]

Reply #37

winsumloosesum — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 20:18:40 GMT

Pick-4 Master,Love to see it. Thanks,wsls

Reply #36

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 19:55:10 GMT

I have a Chart that I use that determines when is the best day for me to play.

Reply #35

winsumloosesum — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 19:49:32 GMT

Thank you everyone for your contributions.Very interesting information on how each of you pick your numbers.The most interesting question is How and When do we pisk our numbers to play?You have showed the set-up but the most important is How do you determine what Groupings such as explained by BobP and When do we play vs. when don't we play? Does it come down to Hot Frequency from past history??Very informative information especially for new players.Now that Todd has set-up his predicitions l... [ More ]

Reply #34

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 18:15:33 GMT

I have to disagree with the comment about not using Sums in your game strategy because it depends on how you use them.Whether your using Software or paper\pencil here's 2 things you can do.Sums should be broken down into categories like so for the Pick-3 Low=(1-9),Med=(10-19)and High=(20-27)and this for the Pick-4 Low=(1-9),Med=(10-19),High=(20-29)and Higher=(30-36)You can track a group and select the one you feel is due,overdue or hits more frequently than the others.Another strategy involve... [ More ]

Reply #33

JAP69 — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:23:01 GMT

If anyone decides to track the box order I am posting the sums for each box combo series. Track each box combo series sum separately from the other box combo series. 0 combo sums18=09917=08916=079-08815=069-07814=059-068-07713=049-058-06712=039-048-057-06611=029-038-047-05610=019-028-037-046-05509=009-018-027-036-04508=008-017-026-035-04407=007-016-025-03406=006-015-024-03305=005-014-02304=004-013-02203=003-01202=002-01101=00100=0001 combo sums19=19918=18917=179-18816=169-17815=159-168-17714=149... [ More ]

Reply #32

JAP69 — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:33:56 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by winsumloosesum on February 07, 2004 John,Do you merge Midday and Eve South Carolina draws in VB34?I was wondering how you set-up VB34 to determine your straight bets? (If you do use VB34 to determine straight bets)Thank you,wslsWsls,Yes I merge mid and eve draws in the VB34. I did not keep up with draw entries on the mid and eve game but I should for evaluation of the draws.I use the mid and eve draw entries for choosing position for the digits. I pull position 1-,2

Reply #31

winsumloosesum — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 00:03:39 GMT

John,Do you merge Midday and Eve South Carolina draws in VB34?I was wondering how you set-up VB34 to determine your straight bets? (If you do use VB34 to determine straight bets)Thank you,wsls

Reply #30

JAP69 — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 23:56:08 GMT

Your welcome,I use versabet 3/4 and also the drawn results I keep on notepad.I will do the notepad description at another time.Got a short break on the Bud shootout and it is time to watch the second part. See yaa

Reply #29

winsumloosesum — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 23:25:10 GMT

Hey John,Thanks again for the info.What software do you use to determine your straight numbers?Thanks,wsls

Reply #28

JAP69 — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 21:25:59 GMT

A tracking method for box numbersThis is the manner in which I track the box ordernumbers as they are drawn. I have learned to read the numbers as to how they fall. When you use thissystem you can see visually how the numbers falltogether.In each column you are working the last two digits. the first digit in a column will always remain the same.Look at each column and you will see a repetition of the digits.How many times a digit will repeat needs to be determined. You can also track your second... [ More ]

Reply #27

JAP69 — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 19:12:02 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by goose on February 05, 2004 has anyone ever won pick3 more than 3 times? I have been known to post winning number combinations either in the pick three or pick four on this site. If I am on a roll they fall into place if not they do not fall into place. Just a matter of tracking the numbers and follow how they fall together from draw to draw. With the charts and software I use it is ciphering the odds of probabilty.

Reply #26

EXCALIBUR — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 06:43:44 GMT

I made a small mistake above, but if you got the main idea, it should not be important.

Reply #25

EXCALIBUR — Sat, 07 Feb 2004 06:41:18 GMT

I have not tested the following yet, but I have good reasonto believe that it should work, if I am right, these together with what i already said, should be enough, I did not want to reveal this, at least untill I tested it, but you can test it yourself.You find out which numbers repeated on the last 1000 draws or longer and substract them from the 1000 pick3 numbers, if 3000 repeated, then you will be left with only 700, then you do lotto matrixes using the past winning numbers, starting with t... [ More ]

Reply #24

hypersoniq — Fri, 06 Feb 2004 18:43:17 GMT

this post is doing a great job at introducing players to numbers in general... but how is a player to determine the peculiar trends and patterns of their own state's drawings

Reply #23

emilyg — Fri, 06 Feb 2004 03:46:39 GMT

great info. thanks.

Reply #22

EXCALIBUR — Fri, 06 Feb 2004 03:10:22 GMT

This are the 80 boxed numbers that have the most chance of coming out on the pick 3, they have been filtered from the 120 basic boxed numbers018 019 027 029 036 037 038 039 045 047 049 056 057 058 059 067 069 078 079 089 126 127 128 129 136 138 145 146 147 148 149 156 158 167 168 169 178 189 234 235 236 237 238 239 245 247 249 256 257 258 259 267 269 278 279 289 345 346 347 348 349 356 358 367 368 369 378 389 456 457 458 459 467 469 478 479 567 568 569 578 These are of course only for any order

Reply #21

goose — Fri, 06 Feb 2004 02:25:20 GMT

has anyone ever won pick3 more than 3 times

Reply #20

hypersoniq — Thu, 05 Feb 2004 19:43:50 GMT

Excellent post again BobP

Reply #19

BobP — Thu, 05 Feb 2004 03:11:16 GMT

Reply #18

gilla — Thu, 05 Feb 2004 02:23:58 GMT

A while back I got into tracking pairs. It is simple how done. There are 55 pairs for the cash 3. I just listed them and started marking when they hit. I broke them down for mid, eve, and combined. On the mid and eve, I have noticed that it usually takes 2 months for all the pairs to hit, keep in mind that they all don't, just a good cut off point for calling them hot. I mark those in red. Any thing older gets a surprising blue for cold. In the combined chart, it usually takes about a month for... [ More ]

Reply #17

JAP69 — Wed, 04 Feb 2004 21:20:16 GMT

Looks like we are advancing along on breaking down the game for the players. The number groups sound good. Then possibly onto the pairs.I do not keep charts on either one. I am more into the box combos and straight position stuff. I track pairs in my software along with other stuff but I do not keep them on notepad. When I lived in N.Y. we had a daily three and four game for many years and I never played it until one time about 18 years ago I use to listen to the radio in the evening and they ga... [ More ]

Reply #16

WIN D — Wed, 04 Feb 2004 02:11:38 GMT

Thanks everyone for helping this along. I'm sure a lot of people that end up making P-3 a hobby will look back on this as a good beginning. Most folks burn up quick as soon as their lucky streak fades away. What do they do then? This thread might keep them and their $$$$ around long enough to learn some skills. It sure is gratifying the first time they score a big win and realize that they did it themselves. They actually won using their knowledge and skill rather than just falling backward int... [ More ]

Reply #15

winsumloosesum — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 09:56:28 GMT

Todd should have a files link so you don't have to keep psoting the charts.Win D, can you psot your pair's charts??I also like Win D's 0's - 6's and 3's and I believe if he doesn't mind me using it, flipping the 6's and 9's.I would love to see a full blown Pick 3 paper and pen system, no holding back, start to finish Pick 3 system.Anybody up for it???wsls

Reply #14

johnph77 — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 05:22:49 GMT

In the interest of not blowing out the newer members who may be reading this thread for the first time an explanation for WIN D's 220 number sum chart may be in order. All possible combinations are summed. If a sum is over 10 only the last digit is recorded as the sum., i.e., a sum of 10 or 20 is 0, 11 or 21 is 1, and so forth.If all the columns of numbers are compared, each column offers 100 permutations, as each column contains 1 triple, 9 doubles (27 total permutations) and 12 numbers where n... [ More ]

Reply #13

hypersoniq — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 02:53:53 GMT

Nice charts!Thanks!great idea to have a basics thread, more AcTiVe participants working off the same starting point will be more chances for someone to possibly notice something everyone has missed...

Reply #12

winsumloosesum — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 01:34:10 GMT

John,That's a heck of a chart.From the Pick 3 highly guarded vaults of serious lottery players.Looks like Chart Wars Luke, remember the force Any pen and paper sytems from the vault??What's next

Reply #11

JAP69 — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:55:45 GMT

This is My final chart on the 220 box numbers broken down into groups.Thanks for the Charts posted as I do not have many of them.10 triple #s[3 like digits]000-111-222-333-444-555-666-777-888-999120 no match #s [contains no double numbers]012-013-014-015-016-017-018-019023-024-025-026-027-028-029034-035-036-037-038-039045-046-047-048-049056-057-058-059067-068-069078-079089123-124-125-126-127-128-129134-135-136-137-138-139145-146-147-148-149156-157-158-159167-168-169178-179189234-235-236-237-238

Reply #10

WIN D — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:44:46 GMT

Here is a chart that has all possible #720 (6 way numbers) boiled down to just #120 numbers. If your not expecting a double your number is always here. This is also a Sums Chart for (6 way numbers) 01234567890370290390490130140150160170181270380570580590230790250350271360471290671490691690341250361450561381481580781781241340452351281472381671682592691891263891461562472392493492782792894792362372562572583583683694695692455893463472673674583784785784896796893563484574674595680196783450127894561230... [ More ]

Reply #9

WIN D — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:28:38 GMT

Here ya go Winsum this is the #220 number chart the doubles are included with the #120 (6 way numbers). Instead of throwing a dart at this one try throwing a Big Mac with cheese......then you'll get a hit ! This chart contains #1000 boiled down to #2200 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 900000100200300400500600700800901902901101201301401501601701802803803904902202302402502602703704704805805906903303403503604605605706706807807908904404505511906611107711308811509911711812812913911212211412... [ More ]

Reply #8

winsumloosesum — Mon, 02 Feb 2004 23:45:44 GMT

Win D,That is a really nice 1000 number chart.Hope you don't mind. I put it on my dart board and threw 3 darts and picked my numbers for tonight. Needless to say I did not win.Maybe I should have used the 220 box chart instead.

Reply #7

JAP69 — Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:44:06 GMT

220 box orderSums chart27=99926=89925=799-88924=699-789-88823=599-689-788-77922=499-589-679-688-77821=399-489-579-588-669-678-77720=299-389-479-488-569-578-668-67719=199-289-379-388-469-478-559-568-577-66718=099-189-279-288-369-378-459-468-477-558-567-66617=089-179-188-269-278-359-368-377-449-458-467-557-56616=079-088-169-178-259-268-277-349-358-367-448-457-466-55615=069-078-159-168-177-249-258-267-339-348-357-366-447-456-55514=059-068-077-149-158-167-239-248-257-266-338-347-356-446-45513=049-05... [ More ]

Reply #6

WIN D — Mon, 02 Feb 2004 13:27:08 GMT

Thanks very much fellas .......this could really help alot of new people save a lot of time and money. Bobp's advice about not playing everyday is very true, and it's a profound part of playing smart. Unfortunately, it's something a lot of serious players or hobby players forget about over time too. This has to be part of your strategy or you can't make a profit!We all know you can't swing at every pitch... every single time....wait for it

Reply #5

hypersoniq — Mon, 02 Feb 2004 12:05:06 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on February 02, 2004 1. you don't have to play every day. .........................................................................................................2. Any system should be played on paper before real money is spent..........................................................................................................3. Just remember they worked somewhere else, doesn't mean they will work for you so test, test, test.now THIS is some of the best a... [ More ]

Reply #4

johnph77 — Mon, 02 Feb 2004 08:02:07 GMT

Some analysts prefer to use the sum of the 3 numbers to reduce the amount of selections to play. For instance, 0 + 0 + 0 = 0, 9 + 9 + 9 = 27, and so on. Of the 1000 possible numbers, the numbers of possibilities of each sum are:Sum Possibilities 0 1 1 3 2 6 3 10 4 15 5 21 6 28 7 36 8 45 9 5510 6311 6912 7313 7514 7515 7316 6917 6318 5519 4520 3621 2822 2123 1524 1025 626 327 1You will hear some analysts refer to a bell curve, and this can be a c... [ More ]

Reply #3

johnph77 — Mon, 02 Feb 2004 05:54:43 GMT

jam boogie -There are 120 numbers without repeating digits appearing in JAP69's table.. Each of these numbers has 6 permutations - i.e. can be altered to produce 6 different 3-number combinations. For instance, 123 can be changed into 123, 132, 213, 231, 312 or 321. This results in 720 different straight number combinations that appear in WIN D's table.There are 90 numbers with paired digits appearing in JAP69's table. Each of these numbers has 3 permutations - i.e. can be altered to produce 3 d... [ More ]

Reply #2

BobP — Mon, 02 Feb 2004 05:20:15 GMT

One thing it helps to get firmly under your belt is the knowledge you don't have to play every day. You need to do the work out for your system, but you only play when it feels right. If it always feels right you have a problem to lick.In fact, about the only way to play at a profit, is to lose less often and you do that by not forcing yourself to play just because you have numbers and dollars available.You can use all sorts of systems and software to get numbers. Make sure you understand wher... [ More ]

Reply #1

WIN D — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:34:49 GMT

Thanks for the #220 chart John....it looks big until you compare it to the 1000 number chart. A lot of people have never looked at what they are up against by actually looking at the whole chart. Here it is: 00005010015020025030035040045050055060065070075080085090095000105110115120125130135140145150155160165170175180185190195100205210215220225230235240245250255260265270275280285290295200305310315320325330335340345350355360365370375380385390395300405410415420425430435440445450455460465470475480... [ More ]

The most important things to know..P-3

WIN D — Sun, 01 Feb 2004 14:55:30 GMT

If you were trying to teach a new player about the Pick-3 game, what are first things you would you do to help them learn and win? Let's start this off with some good hard facts to begin with. We can add things like great superstitions and Luck later on. 1. Most people are surprised to find out that you can boil down all #1000 numbers into a group of only #220 numbers. I guess this is the first thing we would show them. What's your opinion? 2. The second thing would be to separate the #220 n... [ More ]