How is it possible?

Reply #109

blue — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 01:33:26 GMT

win d your good thanks for the posts

Reply #108

WIN D — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 01:03:15 GMT

Another hit tonight this time with the 05 group. Ga. Eve. Tuesday. Not the ones I leaned on. but a win is a win. Box 2 times. Pays to have insurance.

Reply #107

WIN D — Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:06:30 GMT

Well, since I started this on Wed the 11th. then Wed. 18th. will be it for me here. I understand why folks don't like to post amounts and such. It cramps your style. I feel locked in to a play I might want to change and somehow it seems uncomfortable to me. Live on T.V. so to speak. Really don't like it, but I'll hang with it until Wed. OK......played all the combinations of 03 last night Ga. Eve 2/15/ with Even Sums. The Even sum came as 693 sum 18. No win for that one. There seems to be... [ More ]

Reply #106

golotto — Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:23:08 GMT

i don't know if systems are that important playing jackpot games. i certainly enjoy reading about systems. playing Powerball and Megabucks, i have my own little 'systems of number selection and rotation'...nothing fancy; but alas, with jackpot games you just keep playing with a longer term horizon. you learn to keep expectations under control for any single draw, hoping for the best but realizing that this type of game requires patience. you never forget the fact (in the back of your mind) that... [ More ]

Reply #105

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:05:56 GMT

What's the question

Reply #104

Prometheus1 — Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:49:38 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on February 13, 2004 >>>so if he's WON 4 times in 1 week which is 4 out of 7 days he lost 3 days right? If my calculations are correct WIN D has done better than RANDOM ODDS by far and a hell of a lot better than a Quick-Pick would do.You see we're not trying to Prove you can make a profit (even though there are players that do)we just try to prove the Odds can be beaten or your chances can be increased for a WIN.<<<< The Pick 4 MasterI didn't ask abou... [ More ]

Reply #103

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 18:36:09 GMT

People with CLOSED MINDS just don't want to win any money.

Reply #102

Dr Pepper — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 16:27:03 GMT

This is the post from win d on the all odd doubles group that hit today as 797. That's 3 hits in a row for me and many others in Ga. I played the 11's and 77's they hit on day 42! They still owe us an all odd double. Still time to research those doubles...maybe! 41 days out and counting.

Reply #101

jam boogie — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 10:48:31 GMT

Yo! Don't get me wrong now. I am no fool. I understand that your odds of winning is greatl. But fixed as it may be, You can still be lucky enough to be in a position to receive the benefits from that fix. But, if you don't play, you will receive zero. Random picked numbers are randomly pick more than once. That's what I mean by THE LAW OF AVERAGE. What is the average that this number will appear again? Past history will reveal some insight. I am fairly new to this WONDERFUL FORUM, but I... [ More ]

Reply #100

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 03:36:45 GMT

No he doesn't his brain can't comprehend the fact that anything is possible.That's why we have Scientific and Technological advances today if the developers listened to the skeptics we wouldn't have the things that many years ago seemed impossible.

Reply #99

WIN D — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 02:23:20 GMT

Quote

Reply #98

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 00:48:58 GMT

Well I don't understand what your saying because no one in there right mind would play that many numbers in the first place.Now if you played 100 combo's for 7 days and won every day how did you not beat the odds if your only suppose to win ONCE every 1,000 draws? am I missing something here? You would have spent $700 but won $3,500 so not only did you beat the odds you also made a profit.

Reply #97

Thomas Covenant — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 00:41:30 GMT

>>>so if he's WON 4 times in 1 week which is 4 out of 7 days he lost 3 days right? If my calculations are correct WIN D has done better than RANDOM ODDS by far and a hell of a lot better than a Quick-Pick would do.You see we're not trying to Prove you can make a profit (even though there are players that do)we just try to prove the Odds can be beaten or your chances can be increased for a WIN.<<<<I didn't ask about profit. If I picked a thousand numbers each day I would win 7 out of 7 days. This... [ More ]

Reply #96

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 00:36:24 GMT

You know I have to say something about that a lot of skeptics always bring this up did you win more than you lost? or how many times did you lose before you won?Well we don't necessarily look at it like that because if we did no one would gamble.The Casino gamblers can lose tens of thousands of dollars before they finally come out ahead.In lottery gambling we don't spend BIG money like they do so our losses don't add up to there's and they keep gambling.In Casino and Lottery gambling we know the... [ More ]

Reply #95

Thomas Covenant — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 00:09:55 GMT

How many did he get wrong

Reply #94

Prometheus1 — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 00:04:51 GMT

Win d hits again today for the 2nd time. I hate to keep interrupting this thread, and break your train of thought concerning the impossibilities of this game, but Win d just hit again for the second time today. I count 4 times this week. Here is tonight's thread. https://www.lotterypost.com/threads.asp?ForumID=3 TopicID=81451 PagePosition=1 ThreadPage=1 Say Thomas, did you call your shot on that slot machine win or not? You never said. Do you think you could c... [ More ]

Reply #93

JAP69 — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:41:29 GMT

If I were to win a large jackpot prize I would not tell the lottery or news media that I used a system. I would just tell them I randomly marked the playslip.I just read pick 4 masters last post and found the post very interesting about the system players and being secretive. Looks like Johnny 5 had one going for him until telling how.It would seem obvious to me with a payout of $500.00 straight in the pick 3 the state lotteries need 999 losers to cover that payout.

Reply #92

Fwup — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:18:08 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Andrew on February 13, 2004No one will flip the coin 10 times in a row(and get the same result all ten times), you should try it sometime... Statistics and pure chance play against you there. Here is why:the odds of one single dvent occuring (coin flip) is 1:2 the odds of one dvent (H-H dvent) out of two flips is 1:4 (H-H, H-T, T-H, T-T)the odds of one dvent (H-H-H) out of three flips is 1:8 (H-H-H, H-H-T, H-T-H, H-T-T, T-H-H, T-H-T, T-T-H,T-T-T)And it goes on (expo... [ More ]

Reply #91

prob987 — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 19:41:48 GMT

Well, to each his own. I consider myself an intelligent person who nonetheless plays the lottery. I understand mathematics quite well, and I don't wheel.As I enjoy big jackpots, I should not discourage wheeling, which clearly effects the rollover probability. Wheel away. I don't object

Reply #90

Pick-4_Master — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:51:10 GMT

Prob987 just because you aren't aware of it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.For example Johhnny5 lives in Ocala,FL and his local paper ran an article awhile back about a Father Son who won the FL Lottery 3times using Lottery software they mentioned it in the interview.I also recieved a private e-mail from a member about a former co-worker that use to work for theDOD as a programmer and developed a program for personal use in the Pick-3/4 games.This individual makes $7500-$10,000/mnth he di... [ More ]

Reply #89

golotto — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:38:21 GMT

i agree, including at least one number over 31 probably doesn't increase my chances of hitting the jackpot but staying completely in that birthday/anniversary range scares me since it almost guarantees i'll be sharing the prize if i do hit. i don't recall ever buying a ticket with all low numbers. (under 32) a low rider ticket

Reply #88

prob987 — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:36:27 GMT

It is known that the distribution of numbers picked by players (as opposed to quick picks) are heavily weighted towards birthdates. The numbers 1 through 12 are way over-represented.In the distribution of quick picked numbers, few numbers appear with a frequency greater than three standard deviations from the mean. In the distribution of picked numbers, the numbers 1-12 appear to mostly be ten or more standard deviations from the mean as measured in appearance frequency. The number 7 is 19... [ More ]

Reply #87

Andrew — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:31:24 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Fwup on February 12, 2004 Suppose a thousand people all flipped a coin at the same time. The law of probability says that half will flip heads, and half will flip tails. Suppose the 500 that flipped heads flipped again. Half of those would flip heads, and half would flip tails. Then the 250 that flipped heads flipped again. And so on. Eventually you would have one person who flipped 10 heads in a row, and a handful who flipped 8 or 9 in a row. A hundred thousand peopl... [ More ]

Reply #86

Andrew — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:15:50 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by prob987 on February 13, 2004 I have seen data that states that 70% of the tickets purchased overall are quick-picks. I would guess that a large percentage of those who take the time and trouble to fill out their own cards have a system of some sort or another. If we assume that half of 30% who fill out their own cards have a system, then we should see 15% of winners attributing their wins to systems just by dumb luck. However, if the systems worked, they would

Reply #85

Prometheus1 — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:59:17 GMT

Check this post out. No conversation. Just walking the walk. Again. Old Win d posted this on the Pick-3 forum yesterday. He's just lucky isn't he? Sure. https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/81387

Reply #84

RJOh — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:40:15 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by prob987 on February 13, 2004 I personally cannot recall a instance of a winner who attributed his or her win to a system of any sort. (Feel free to correct me, if you have heard of such a case.) ........ Some years ago there was a group that won the Virgina lottery by trying to buy every possible combination. They bought 80% of the combinations and won the jackpot and some smaller prizes. At the time they were featured on a TV program called How They Do That an... [ More ]

Reply #83

prob987 — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:06:17 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by whodeani on February 11, 2004 Quote: Originally posted by prob987 on February 11, 2004 A wheeler in California won about four or five years ago, and won the 1st prize, the second prize, the third prize, etc. Lottery officials were amazed by this. The reason they were amazed is that they'd never seen such a situation before. The reason they'd never seen it is because wheelers are less likely to win than the purchasers of quick picks. The majority of winners buy qu... [ More ]

Reply #82

Pick-4_Master — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:49:39 GMT

Exactly since you have the majority of players buying quick-picks and the minority using systems of course more winners are going to come from quick-picks that's obvious.So at least you agree with me on that by posting this statement it backs up what system players already know.Does this mean your more likely to win with a quick-pick?(Yes and No)if luck is on your side YES you will win if luck isn't on your side NO you won'twin.The last statement proves what we already know It just maybe tha... [ More ]

Reply #81

Fwup — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 03:46:59 GMT

Quote: Definition and Concept are not different in this case because what you described was Handicapping not Gambling Handicapping is a method used in Gambling .The concept if you insist is playing games of chance so adding the money part would be the definition playing games of chance for money but there still basically the same.Like I said, that's just a difference of opinion on semantics. Everybody in the world knows what gambling is. It's what you do when you go to Las Vegas.Quote... [ More ]

Reply #80

Pick-4_Master — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:59:49 GMT

Definition and Concept are not different in this case because what you described was Handicapping not Gambling Handicapping is a method used in Gambling .The concept if you insist is playing games of chance so adding the money part would be the definition playing games of chance for money but there still basically the same.The reason I misunderstand what your saying is because it's HOGWASH anyway I suppose you play the PowerBall with Quick-Picksand since your in here fooling around i... [ More ]

Reply #79

Fwup — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:35:45 GMT

Quote: How can you participate in something you don't even play?I play Powerball when it goes over $200 million.Quote: I understand that someone CAN win based on the Odds but there's no law that says someone HAS to win.Why do you think they have rollovers in the lottery?I'm not talking about someone winning every game every time. I'm talking about the basic principle of odds, that overall there will always be a certain percentage of winners and losers. Besides, that point neither proves nor disp... [ More ]

Reply #78

Thomas Covenant — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 01:20:38 GMT

<<<<<Suppose a

Reply #77

Pick-4_Master — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 01:11:25 GMT

FWUP I don't spend several thousand dollars on systems and this isn't a discussion on your part it's total nonsense.How can you participate in something you don't even play? or truly understand? I understand that someone CAN win based on the Odds but there's no law that says someone HAS to win.Why do you think they have rollovers in the lottery? because nobody won, I don't want you to agree with me at all I'm just pointing out that your not proving anything to anyone in here.We've heard this cr... [ More ]

Reply #76

JAP69 — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 01:06:52 GMT

The method by which the lotteries draw their balls is random. The results of the random draws over time may not show randomness.

Reply #75

JAP69 — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:59:53 GMT

In the pick three and four games they have a chamber for each position. Why? If numbers are chosen at random why not have one chamber with with the thirty or forty balls and the first ball out is position #1 second ball out position #2 etc.They also could just as easily have three or four exit tubes for the positions.

Reply #74

JAP69 — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:49:49 GMT

fwupSo how does anyone using common sense choose their numbers to play if the draws are random

Reply #73

RJOh — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:37:31 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Fwup on February 12, 2004 So, the reason you waste your time with systems is because you don't understand that SOMEONE has to win, but spending several thousand dollars on a lottery system isn't going to improve your chances any more than someone using common sense, because it's RANDOM! Using common sense to pick your numbers is a system and shouldn't cost several thousand dollars. Making sure you don't play the same combination more than once per drawing is a system... [ More ]

Reply #72

Fwup — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:25:11 GMT

Quote: You still don't get it do you? you will never be able to understand the concept of GAMBLING because your not a gambler.The concept of gambling is to reduce the odds sufficiently to enable you to win more than you lose.Quote: By the way what are you tryig to accomplish with your statements? get us to stop playing the Lottery with our systems and software? or are you trying to convince yourself that they don't work.I'm trying to participate in a discussion about lotteries. Isn't that the pu... [ More ]

Reply #71

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:22:01 GMT

Are you trying to convince us that lottery systems don't work or trying to convince yourself? did it ever occur to you that if they REALLY didn't work we wouldn't be wasting our time using them? we're not stupid you know I use to work in the Computer\Electronics field and Johhny5 is a Programmer.

Reply #70

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:16:36 GMT

You still don't get it do you? you will never be able to understand the concept of GAMBLING because your not a gambler.By the way what are you tryig to accomplish with your statements? get us to stop playing the Lottery with our systems and software? or are you tryingto convince yourself that they don't work.

Reply #69

Fwup — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:58:18 GMT

Quote: Lets get physical then... Yes.. the balls do not know what numbers are on them.. but You do. Yes.. the balls have to go on physical conditions.. and don't know that ether..but you do... and yes.. if you have first 1 then 2 then 3 then 4.. I would say.. that if 5 was the ball that has traced itself to be heavier then 6,7,8,9 or 10.. it will be the next ball in the chute.. and that my frind is not randomness.. its called taking an educated guess.Or as science calls it.. A THEORY.Yes, bu... [ More ]

Reply #68

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:49:30 GMT

Quick-Picks are based on Luck and Random Odds if 10,000 or more players buy a quick-pick in the Play 4 there's gonna be winners but your ticket may not be one of them that's where luck plays it's part.I would rather make my own luck by selecting numbers myself,when I played quick-picks 10 yrs ago I NEVER won anything when I started using strategies and software I started winning.So if my winnings went from Nothing to Something how do you explain it? it's really common sense we're not saying that... [ More ]

Reply #67

DirtyWrat — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:53:12 GMT

Thomas,Please call your brother.

Reply #66

Thomas Covenant — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:41:04 GMT

>>>that you can say what ever you want.. but the proof is in the pudding.. I myself have won $5000 not too long ago.. and in the past other winnings..<<<And other people have won NOT using systems. The proof is not in the pudding, the proof is having a public and documented test.

Reply #65

Johnny5 — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:13:36 GMT

Quote from FWUP The answer is the same chance as any other number . Why? Because the balls don't know what number is painted on them. Balls don't pop up into the chute because of some mathematical progression of numbers. They pop up because of physical attributes of the balls, container, air supply, etc. The number painted on them is irreldvent. End Quote Have you ever done wheather testing.. or vacum testing of any kind???Lets get physical then... Yes.. the balls do not know what numbers are o... [ More ]

Reply #64

Thomas Covenant — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:21:07 GMT

>>>By the way Thomas Covenant ....I'm not very impressed with your Slot machine hit back in the olden days. The Odds on Pick-3 are 15 to 18 times worse than any Vegas slot. Try this. <<<Wasn't really meant to impress. If I had kept playing, I would have lost the money, just as you do when you keep playing Pick 3.

Reply #63

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:13:44 GMT

But some people will say spending $200 to play is too much money but the thing they forget is that it's GAMBLING if you went to a Casino to gamble you'd spend that in 1 night instead of $200 spent over a 5 day period.If you guys really want to WIN be prepared to spend the cash I know a guy in Isreal that wins regularly spending $60-$100 on the Pick-3 Steve Player spends anywhere from $500-$1000 on the Daily games.This is the best way to get consistant hits select more numbers and play more com... [ More ]

Reply #62

MikeK — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:56:12 GMT

Jeff,You mentioned that the use of computers is bad. Actually I am finding that the use of computers is much better for systems, in PICK 3 particularly with strgith hits. California also uses computer generated numbers as well.Here as a player's example yesterday'sh*t of the PICK 3 Wheeling ZID System/ Dr. Zid plays in California, PICK 3 Straight only, and uses a Hot Number Wheel (40 Numbers) and plays the same numbers for 5 draws, amount $200, win $500..System ZID - PICK 3 Straight WheelingDra... [ More ]

Reply #61

goose — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 06:49:53 GMT

wheeling is the key and what really matters

Reply #60

whodeani — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 02:29:56 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by prob987 on February 11, 2004 A wheeler in California won about four or five years ago, and won the 1st prize, the second prize, the third prize, etc. Lottery officials were amazed by this. The reason they were amazed is that they'd never seen such a situation before. The reason they'd never seen it is because wheelers are less likely to win than the purchasers of quick picks. The majority of winners buy quick picks, although occassionally people have special numb... [ More ]

Reply #59

WIN D — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 02:27:59 GMT

Ok I'll be playing the Triples on the Ga. Midday for the rest of Feb. among other things. I'll let you know if I see any other high probability opportunities come along. They don't grow on trees ya know. I wait. You lose most of the time you know.....so the wins have to count. By the way Thomas Covenant ....I'm not very impressed with your Slot machine hit back in the olden days. The Odds on Pick-3 are 15 to 18 times worse than any Vegas slot. Try this. P.S. Thomas..... did you call... [ More ]

Reply #58

JAP69 — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 01:48:40 GMT

Todd will have set in place soon to come is a hit percentage for the posters of predictions.I like the term that Pick 4 master has said [handicapper].Now when I post as a handicapper that does not represent that I play all the selections posted every draw. They are posted as my best choices for play for the lottery players to select from if they choose. Of course I need to get hits among the selections on occassion to be up to speed.

Reply #57

Fwup — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 01:02:22 GMT

Win D,That's good. Now try it again. If you can win again before you spend the money you just won then I'll be impressed. Everyone wins now and then. The point of having a system is to win more often than you lose.Fwup

Reply #56

Thomas Covenant — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 00:48:34 GMT

Well WinD, I played a slot machine about 20 years ago(my first time) and invested $5.00 in quarters. I won $125. I have never played again(I found it boring) But if I had played consistently, I would be way in the red right now. No matter how you pick your numbers, you are going to win sometimes, but you will lose more. Of course that's hard to prove. No one here tracks their winnings against their losses. It's easy to say you beat the odds when you just pick out the winners to display. Do you e... [ More ]

Reply #55

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 00:44:08 GMT

HYPERSONIQ I'm talking about predicting the EXACT 6 numbers that are drawn in the Lottery.But if you select18-20 numbers it definitely increases your chances of trapping the winners as opposed to just trying to get 6.Just selecting 6 numbers is what I call PREDICTING the winners selecting 18-20 numbers is TRAPPING the winners.It's easier to select the losers because there's more of them in a 6/49 game only 6 numbers are drawn therefore 43 numbers will be excluded, so if you tried to selec... [ More ]

Reply #54

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 00:33:05 GMT

True but the difference is that it's just wheeling 3 numbers and software let's you wheel 6 or 8 numbers which will increase your chances of getting them all.Quick-Picks aren't that reliable even though they win I use to play quick-picks years ago and never won a dime.When I learned about lottery software and wheeling I started winning,also I'm not referring to REGUALAR wheels I'm referring to what I call Smart-Wheels which are Lottery Wheels that let you apply Filters to them,most Lottery sof... [ More ]

Reply #53

hypersoniq — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 00:32:25 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on February 11, 2004 There is no way of PREDICTING winning numbers but you can TRAP the winning numbers by selecting a GROUP of them to Wheel. In order to trap, unless you are playing a full wheel of al of the numbers, you still need some reason to favor some numbers and exclude others, right?even the best wheels on the net contain the word IF in their description (e.g. 3if 6 in xx, etc...). IF you say you can't predict winning numbers, then how ex... [ More ]

Reply #52

prob987 — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:49:20 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on February 11, 2004 There is no way of PREDICTING winning numbers but you can TRAP the winning numbers by selecting a GROUP of them to Wheel. Anyone who wins the lottery, even on a quick pick, traps the winning number. Wheeling reduces your probability of actually winning per dollar, although it does raise the expectation value: If you win (in spite of your lowered odds) you will win more money than you would otherwise because you will garner mo... [ More ]

Reply #51

LosingJeff — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:04:45 GMT

Feel lucky if your state uses the balls; Indiana uses a computer! I wish we had the balls. Its hopeless with a computer picking your numbers. Jeff

Reply #50

WIN D — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:42:53 GMT

Hey Thomas Covenant Love your anti- gravity piggies ! LOL $500.00

Reply #49

WIN D — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:39:18 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on February 10, 2004 Let's play a little game. I will play the #40 number combinations below for the next week or 7 draws on the Ga. Eve. Pick-3 . I will play all #40 numbers in combo for .50 cents each.($20 per day) My partner in crime will play all 40 numbers for $1.00 straight.We will both play the #17 numbers in bold for $34.00 per draw for the next 2 draws only ...one dollar Straight and one dollar S/B. When thefirst hit occurs we will rearrange t... [ More ]

Reply #48

golotto — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:39:12 GMT

Quote: O

Reply #47

goose — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:45:40 GMT

whatever it is lottery system or gamble,one thing is clear,lottery is never gambling been gained by luck nor something dead,been figured out by systemsgoose

Reply #46

Thomas Covenant — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:39:11 GMT

>>>Those that do not try going to vegas or Atlantic city and stand behind a player with 50 or 100 grand on the table for gamblin and tell them they will lose, the house has the edge, no system will work to win. Come back and tell me what reaction you get out of them.<<<I wouldn't do that. A casino isn't a discussion forum. This is.

Reply #45

JAP69 — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:34:18 GMT

Those that use lottery systems believe in them. Those that do not will not.Those that do not try going to vegas or Atlantic city and stand behind a player with 50 or 100 grand on the table for gamblin and tell them they will lose, the house has the edge, no system will work to win. Come back and tell me what reaction you get out of them.Gamblers enjoy what they are doing wether it be lotteries or anything else. Wether they play $1.00 a day on the lottery or throw 5 grand in the poker pot.

Reply #44

goose — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:28:25 GMT

I have become a christian.Lottery is the same.Lottery is holy,which is controled by some kind of power fromsomewhere.If you dont belive it at the beginning,you will not have any result in the end.We can only find a personal place in ourselves to communicate with God can we feel and talk to him.Goose

Reply #43

Thomas Covenant — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:08:06 GMT

>>>Sorry if I insulte

Reply #42

Thomas Covenant — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:02:21 GMT

>>>In 1901, Guglielmo Marchese Marconi stated that he could send wireless telegraph signals across the Atlantic Ocean. Many in the press and scientific community labeled him as crazy and said laughingly such a thing could never be done. Marconi wasn't discouraged and built an antenna at Cornwall, England and another at St John's, Newfoundland and on December 12, 1901, against all odds and despite all skeptics, sent the first wireless signal across the Atlantic. ...to the total disbelief and ama... [ More ]

Reply #41

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 19:49:15 GMT

It doesn't matter he doesn't even play the Lottery so his comments don't make any sense.My point was that by going into a Forum like I mentioned can just start TROUBLE not a peaceful debate.If you don't believe in something whether it's GOD or using SYSTEMS to play lottery games that's your business but there's no need to go making comments to purposely irritate people in a place you really have no business in except to irritate people.If I were Jewish I wouldn't go in a Neo-Nazi forum to voice... [ More ]

Reply #40

Thomas Covenant — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 19:22:38 GMT

Quote from Pick4Master:>>>If your not interested in playing the lottery then why are you in here trying to Rain on our Parade? That's like me being an Atheist and going into a Christian Forum saying GOD Doesn't exist because there's no physical proof or no eyewitnesses.<<<<Well, this is a Discussion Forum, and Fwup is the person who started this thread. There are two types of Christian Forums, Fellowship and Discussion. There is nothing wrong with an Atheist going into a discussion forum and p... [ More ]

Reply #39

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 19:22:03 GMT

There is no way of PREDICTING winning numbers but you can TRAP the winning numbers by selecting a GROUP of them to Wheel.

Reply #38

prob987 — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 18:30:21 GMT

The numbers are totally random and there is no means of predicting winners, as uncomfortable as many are with that fact.There are many ways however to reduce your odds when you play more than one ticket. Many lottery systems that I have seen do exactly that. To see that this is so, do the following thought experiment: Imagine buying 500 tickets all of which have the following numbers: 3-6-9-12-15 MB: 18. What are your odds of winning? They are not the odds of one ticket divided by 500!I h... [ More ]

Reply #37

winsumloosesum — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:29:07 GMT

Does it matter how software can process past draws?What if a program used the Drawn numbers (How the numbers were exactly dropped from the machine) vs the sorted numbers?wsls

Reply #36

Andrew — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:16:55 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Fwup on February 10, 2004 The number painted on the ball has no influence on whether the ball will be picked or not.... In this case, past data doesn't predict future data, because the number painted on the ball has nothing to do with whether or not the ball gets picked. The physical characteristics of the ball itself determines whether or not it gets picked. Actually, the fact that the balls are the same helps us! The characteristics we are actually predicting is th... [ More ]

Reply #35

plnwebguy — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 15:49:21 GMT

I just joined Lottery Post and been looking through the forums and thought I'd post a reply. I have a web site that shows the most popular Powerball and Mega Millions numbers. Starting this year I decided to keep track too of how often the popular numbers are the actual numbers drawn and so far it hasn't happened very often. One exception was last night, where two of the Mega Million white balls were top popular numbers, but mostly it's been 0 or 1 matches.

Reply #34

goose — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 15:30:48 GMT

we say lottery winning numbers are random,but even random numbers follow certain regulations.This regulation is the uses and skills of formula.As long as theres formula that could increase the chance of winning,theres no pure random existing in lottery play.So lotteries can definitely be cracked.What may matters is how many result(draws) we expect to have for a jackpt or a 5+0 winner.....goose

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winsumloosesum — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:46:32 GMT

ColonF,If you search this site you will find a $100,000 challenge to WinSumLoseSum. He didn't accept;15 posts and 2 of them are directed towards me. I'm honored!!I didn't save my lunch money. Sorry!!$100K. WOW! Do ya really got that kind of money mate??I think your wasting your time here with your challenge. You ought to take that $100k and shoot the load on the next 6/49 drawing.wsls

Reply #32

Colin F — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:05:46 GMT

FWUpIf you search this site you will find a $100,000 challenge to WinSumLoseSum. He didn't accept; I extend it to you.If you genuinely believe there is no basis for improving the number of wins then that is giving you a 50/50 chance. Doesn't matter if you haven't got $100,000 to wager you should be able to get a sponsor; evens is considered good odds by gamblers.Me, I'm not a gambler . The probability of me winning is 1 (which means for you it's 0).Your fixation on balls is to say the least anno... [ More ]

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dvdiva — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:44:59 GMT

if you want to see patterns in random numbers than ok. i don't think that my doubting i will ever win has any effect on the outcome or which balls are chosen. the odds are very bad and the numbers random.still if you want to believe something - great - go right ahead.i'll keep playing when the jackpot hits a certain amount and i will see if i win or not. i still think that i will loose because it helps in the post someone one other than you usual outcome and i won't get as depressed. maybe just... [ More ]

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kbcherokee — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:34:13 GMT

Track the number's on a spreadsheet for 20-plus games, and then come back and tell us there are no pattern's. Track the PB or MB seperately...Chief

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Pick-4_Master — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:33:39 GMT

Your WRONG my friend because one thing you forgot is that GAMBLING is also PSYCHOLOGICAL if you believe you can WIN you will if you don't you won't.The balls are a physical representation of the numbers without the numbers on the balls you wouldn't be able to analyse what's going on.So in a sense your giving the balls life so to speak in programming the codes are represented by variables otherwise programmers wouldn't be able to read or write the codes needed for a program to run.In the lott... [ More ]

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Pick-4_Master — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:23:17 GMT

If your not interested in playing the lottery then why are you in here trying to Rain on our Parade? That's like me being an Atheist and going into a Christian Forum saying GOD Doesn't exist because there's no physical proof or no eyewitnesses.You can't tell us that we don't know what we're doing if players are winning by doing it more often than they would with quick-picks.People still believe in him and we have plenty of players that won because they knew what they were doing and used there... [ More ]

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Fwup — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:22:29 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by golotto on February 10, 2004There are no guarantees in life or in the lotto. But by saying that you found patterns in previous data...doesn't that justify exactly what we're saying? heheA popular urban legend in the '70's was the President's Curse. It seems that prior to 1980, every US President that was inaugurated in a year ending in zero has died in office. So, looking at past data, one would predict that Reagan would have died in office. But of course he didn't. I... [ More ]

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golotto — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:08:36 GMT

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WIN D — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:50:47 GMT

Let's play a little game. I will play the #40 number combinations below for the next week or 7 draws on the Ga. Eve. Pick-3 . I will play all #40 numbers in combo for .50 cents each.($20 per day) My partner in crime will play all 40 numbers for $1.00 straight.We will both play the #17 numbers in bold for $34.00 per draw for the next 2 draws only ...one dollar Straight and one dollar S/B. When thefirst hit occurs we will rearrange the betting order at that time. 01 123402 123 03 12... [ More ]

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intel — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:54:09 GMT

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Fwup — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:49:09 GMT

OK, one more post and I'll go away. Suppose I had a lottery machine that contained 10 balls, numbered 1 thru 10. The machine is activated, and the balls start tumbling around. The first ball to pop up is 1. The next ball is 2. The next ball is 3. The next ball is 4. What would the chances be that the next ball would be 5?The answer is the same chance as any other number . Why? Because the balls don't know what number is painted on them. Balls don't pop up into the chute because of some mathemat... [ More ]

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6of6 — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:22:12 GMT

I totally agree with pick 4 master................................................

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golotto — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 15:33:52 GMT

In 1901, Guglielmo Marchese Marconi stated that he could send wireless telegraph signals across the Atlantic Ocean. Many in the press and scientific community labeled him as crazy and said laughingly such a thing could never be done. Marconi wasn't discouraged and built an antenna at Cornwall, England and another at St John's, Newfoundland and on December 12, 1901, against all odds and despite all skeptics, sent the first wireless signal across the Atlantic. ...to the total disbelief and amazem... [ More ]

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MikeK — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 15:30:24 GMT

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Reply #19

lottoscorp — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 14:54:49 GMT

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Pick-4_Master — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 14:16:50 GMT

Since you have 43 numbers that won't be drawn all a skilled player needs to do is eliminate from the 49 say29 numbers which gives you 20,eliminating 31 numbers gives you 18 and eliminating 34 numbers gives you 15. The Process of Elimination doing analysis to see which numbers are least likely to be drawn.For you to just come out and say no one can win using systems and not many win if they do shows that you don't much about Lottery Numbers and how to play Intelligently.All the numbers will come... [ More ]

Reply #17

Andrew — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 14:06:50 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Fwup on February 10, 2004 Mechanical randomizers work by mixing up plastic balls in a container, either by forced air, or the turning of a drum. The starting position of the balls are unknown, and unknowable. The air turbulence or mechanical action of the drum is also unknown and unknowable. And even if all the equipment was never changed, normal wear and tear and maintenance on the equipment would change the coefficient of friction enough from one use to another to m... [ More ]

Reply #16

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 13:59:54 GMT

FWUP first of all PREDICTING lottery numbers is for PSYCHICS and I don't recall any members being Psychic in here.And we all know Psychics can't even predict lottery numbers so why would we try? what the players are doing in here is called HANDICAPPING the game in order to bend the odds in there favor.It's done all the time in Casino,Horse Racing and Sports gambling in Lottery the goal is to select a GROUP of numbers in order to trap the winning numbers.Just selecting 6 numbers in the Lot... [ More ]

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whodeani — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 12:28:38 GMT

I have won more money playing the lottery in the last year using systems and analysis than I did in the previous ten years not using a system or any type of analysis. Now a system may not win you a big jackpot because the odds are still enormously high (not saying that you still can't though) but a system can help you win smaller tier prizes more often. Prior lottery drawings give away clues that can lead you to picking more probable numbers and to an extent sometimes predictable numbers.... [ More ]

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Todd — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:37:08 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on February 10, 2004 There is a disconnect between the state lottery games and the outside lottery industry that has grown up around it. You will find they pretend we don't exit, that's why you don't see Lotterypost as one of the links on official state sites.Bob,You don't know how right you are! That was a very astute comment. It is true for most state lotteries. However, there are some states that break with this concept, and who have been helpful and commu... [ More ]

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EXCALIBUR — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:11:41 GMT

Prediction might not be possible, unless you are a Nostradamus, but you can follow a series of related dvents to their conclusion and or you can wait for a particular dvent to happen, if you know by prior statistics or repeat observation that it will again happen.Fwup= There hasn't been many that have won. It isn't possible Most of those who win by using Systems or Software don't tell you so.The lottery is not as random as they want you to believe and if it really was, then it would be easier... [ More ]

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BobP — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 05:08:44 GMT

There is a disconect between the state lottery games and the outside lottery industry that has grown up around it. You will find they pretend we don't exit, that's why you don't see Lotterypost as one of the links on official state sites.As for prediction, it can be based on anything from the movement of the stars to shaking homemade lotto balls in a bag. The thing is you have to play something so you select a means of picking numbers that works more often then any other you've tried, that's y... [ More ]

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DreamLotto — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 05:04:05 GMT

Hi Fwup and other friends out here:You heard of Monkey Kung-Fu ...?! It wins!So if monkeying around with Kung-Fu can win, WHY can't Just Monkeying Around With Numbers ...boy?!You MUST read all the posts...for you know many a times, results achieved have been astounding or near astounding when people deviated from standard theories...!!Good Luck

Reply #10

Fwup — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 04:20:02 GMT

All lottery systems have to work on the same basic principle: using past winning numbers to determine future winning numbers. And that's impossible. There are too many random variables. Mechanical randomizers work by mixing up plastic balls in a container, either by forced air, or the turning of a drum. The starting position of the balls are unknown, and unknowable. The air turbulence or mechanical action of the drum is also unknown and unknowable. And even if all the equipment was never changed... [ More ]