Powerball Wheel Design discussion...

Reply #31

hypersoniq — Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:42:06 GMT

2 numbers came out in the powerball saturday that do not appear in the 90% and 100% lists above, but it's cool because they are saturday data ;-)I recently reworked a VBA macro to list all of the combos that are possible with the 90% wednesday range, there are 2.2 million and I have yet to eliminate oddballs (all 5's like 1-2-3-4-5 and 4's like 20-21-22-23-49)... consecutives that have been drawn are mostly 2 and sometimes 3... it left me with an excel file that is 66.4MB

Reply #30

hypersoniq — Sun, 11 Apr 2004 03:53:31 GMT

I think I will try a 7 to 10 line test for wednesday, since the announcer numbers are lining up in 4 of 6 positions, mixed with the last wednesday repeat coverage... it looks like the 35 and 37 could possibly repeat and shift left (from WB4 WB5 to WB3 WB4) ... 2 may be due for it's second three-peat in overall history, and 51 looks promising for WB5... still no clue on PB, but decade 3 (20 to 29) is overdue...

Reply #29

hypersoniq — Sun, 11 Apr 2004 03:48:25 GMT

It would be interesting to post a picture of the stats page... it runs from column A to column GZ

Reply #28

four4me — Sun, 11 Apr 2004 03:25:05 GMT

Hypersoniq wrote: I just counted.. I have 27 worksheets spread out over 5 separate excel workbooks dedicated to the powerball alone... every other game I track has 1 book, 1 sheet... Data overload! I wonder which is important... which is extraneous and where to get the wheel numbers from. The one thing about the sheets is that each one must be updated by hand... I tried some automation, but then you don't get to see the numbers change as it happens...If all goes well, the first roughly 2/3 of th... [ More ]

Reply #27

hot lotto — Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:46:36 GMT

Does anyone know how to post Excel Picture here

Reply #26

hypersoniq — Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:44:23 GMT

I just counted.. I have 27 worksheets spread out over 5 separate excel workbooks dedicated to the powerball alone... every other game I track has 1 book, 1 sheet... Data overload!I wonder which is important... which is extraneous and where to get the wheel numbers from. The one thing about the sheets is that each one must be updated by hand... I tried some automation, but then you don't get to see the numbers change as it happens...If all goes well, the first roughly 2/3 of the wheel will repres... [ More ]

Reply #25

plnwebguy — Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:30:20 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on April 09, 2004the most frustrating thing about developing any type of strategy is running out of ideas for what to do next...Second of all is when no matter how much you develop a system, it never maintains a good success rate.The numbers defy categorization, there is no set final definition of hot/cold/warm that everyone can agree on, there are still many fundamental problems that need to be solved, still far too many things to identify and test... it s... [ More ]

Reply #24

hypersoniq — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:58:24 GMT

the most frustrating thing about developing any type of strategy is running out of ideas for what to do next...Second of all is when no matter how much you develop a system, it never maintains a good success rate.The numbers defy categorization, there is no set final definition of hot/cold/warm that everyone can agree on, there are still many fundamental problems that need to be solved, still far too many things to identify and test... it seems like a constant uphill struggle... how many dvents

Reply #23

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Reply #22

hot lotto — Fri, 09 Apr 2004 04:46:48 GMT

HYPER,Good comments

Reply #21

hypersoniq — Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:41:03 GMT

All 5 numbers contained in the 100% and 90% lists in their respective positions...

Reply #20

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Reply #19

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Reply #18

hypersoniq — Tue, 06 Apr 2004 18:51:34 GMT

Here is the first visual aid for the wheel concept... the 100% list and the 90% listHow it works, pick one number from each column, they are the actual ranges (with no-shows deleted) that the winning combos came from... The 100% list includes ALL wednesday winners, and the 90+% list contains almost all of the winners (better than 90%)*** The 100% List ****B1 B2 B3 B4 B501 03 07 08 1902 05 11 09 2203 06 12 17 2304 07 14 18 2405 09 16 19 2506 10 17 20 3107 11 18 21

Reply #17

RJOh — Tue, 06 Apr 2004 02:42:28 GMT

I've done something similar with MegaMillions but I used 75%+ range to pick my numbers for tomorrow night's drawing.pos1 01 to 17pos2 06 to 32pos3 14 to 35pos4 21 to 49pos5 39 to 52range 21 to 50gaps 1 to 26sums 85 to 18551% of all previous drawings have fallen completely within these parameters.I've added these additional parameters when picking my numbers and comparing them to the previous 197 drawings(both Tuesday and Friday).matched one 60-76matched two 7-17matched three 0-1The five numbers... [ More ]

Reply #16

hypersoniq — Tue, 06 Apr 2004 01:51:57 GMT

thanks, good luck to you also... it should work, if either tuesday or friday on MM have a significantly higher number of repeats when separated by day-of-week.I just finished marking off where the 90+% ranges were at for PB wednesday data...100% range of all wednesday drawsWB1 01 to 26WB2 03 to 37WB3 07 to 43WB4 08 to 50WB5 19 to 5390% to 97% range of all wednesday drawsWB1 01 to 20WB2 05 to 31 (08 and 29 not yet drawn in range)WB3 14 to 40 (15 and 37 not yet drawn in range)WB4 17 to 47... [ More ]

Reply #15

RJOh — Mon, 05 Apr 2004 22:20:04 GMT

If this works for PowerBall 53 numbers, will it work for MegaMillions 52 numbers? Sounds similar to what some have tried to do to trap the MegaMillions jackpot. Good luck to you.RJOh

Reply #14

hypersoniq — Mon, 05 Apr 2004 19:57:46 GMT

Wednesday data charted, finally... I see by doing that that I missed the tail end of the PB trend which went on for 6 drawings... PB then PB-1... the 35 last wednesday busted it up, again always too late...I figure I should save enough $$$ by not playing saturdays anymore to give the wheel a try this run if it rolls that high... Still establishing guidelines for the number placements, and luck is still a major factor, but I think I can at least be in the position to have the numbers in the right... [ More ]

Reply #13

hypersoniq — Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:23:40 GMT

oops, I made a mistake, there would only be 16 lines containing non-repeaters, not 21....

Reply #12

RJOh — Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:07:54 GMT

In the last 50 drawings all 5 white balls have occurred at least one during the previous 7 to 59 drawing averaging 23.6 and a median of 20 draws. More the 50% of the time all 5 numbers have been in the previous 23 drawings. This fact may only eliminate 3-6 numbers at the most, but every little bit helps.RJOh

Reply #11

four4me — Sun, 04 Apr 2004 15:57:02 GMT

Hypersoniq wrote: My end goal is to use every number, and have a reason to use it, then it could simply be an excel thing to fill in what is needed and have the lines fall into place automatically... Because I am trapping the absence or occurrence of dvents rather than numbers, it should be general enough, and since it uses actual draw history, the source of entropy should be good enough too, it will be modelled on the history itself...Time will tell... still about 103M away from a live go (prov... [ More ]

Reply #10

hypersoniq — Sun, 04 Apr 2004 15:08:37 GMT

there are situations where the 25 lines based on repeats can be consolidated, this week is a prime example, as the number 20 was in a chain 2-3 and 4 weeks ago... it could have been eliminated last week (because chains seem to ALWAYS break at 3) and this week it shows up in 2 playable groups of 5.

Reply #9

hypersoniq — Sun, 04 Apr 2004 14:35:15 GMT

My end goal is to use every number, and have a reason to use it, then it could simply be an excel thing to fill in what is needed and have the lines fall into place automatically... Because I am trapping the absence or occurrence of dvents rather than numbers, it should be general enough, and since it uses actual draw history, the source of entropy should be good enough too, it will be modelled on the history itself...Time will tell... still about 103M away from a live go (provided it rolls that... [ More ]

Reply #8

plnwebguy — Sun, 04 Apr 2004 11:03:44 GMT

I went back and looked and the 6 and 26 had been drawn the last week in Feb., so going back 5 weeks would have hit 4 out of 5. I have noticed something about the powerball that may help you cut down on the ones to not wheel - it doesn't seem to repeat over a month's time. The number 6 was the exception for March, being drawn twice, but all the rest were unique.I did go back and look at Wednesday's draw back to the first of the year and see what you mean about repeats, 17 comes to mind. It eve... [ More ]

Reply #7

hypersoniq — Sun, 04 Apr 2004 09:25:02 GMT

I have looked at decades and columns based on how the balls are dumped into the machine... every time I think I figured something out, the next draw would always shred the theory to bits (Announcers, Announcer Ranges, Decade+Last Digit, Column+Last Digit, Skips (the hot-cold-warm scenario) etc...)The only relatively consistent thing I have found are the repeats from 1 to four draws back on a wednesday... completely excluding saturday draw data... The ranges per position are definitely narrower t... [ More ]

Reply #6

plnwebguy — Sun, 04 Apr 2004 03:12:02 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by plnwebguy on April 03, 2004Here are a couple other things to maybe look at to narrow down the number of balls:I was updating my Mega Millions database with last nights numbers and replacing the last date drawn dates and noticed every one of the white balls had been drawn within the past month. I don't know how often that happens but that may be another way to narrow down the numbers. It basically follows along the lines of hot/cold numbers. But to give an example,... [ More ]

Reply #5

plnwebguy — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 18:57:47 GMT

Here are a couple other things to maybe look at to narrow down the number of balls:I was updating my Mega Millions database with last nights numbers and replacing the last date drawn dates and noticed every one of the white balls had been drawn within the past month. I don't know how often that happens but that may be another way to narrow down the numbers. It basically follows along the lines of hot/cold numbers. But to give an example, here are the white balls for Powerball that were drawn... [ More ]

Reply #4

four4me — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 18:27:06 GMT

Do you take a list of numbers from one to 53 and write down how long a number has sat out and or most recently hit. Keep really cold numbers in one list really hot numbers and lukewarm numbers on another list. I think lukewarm numbers are the key and one cold number and one hot number. Try making tickets without wheeling them and see what happens. By selecting the numbers to play from the three groups. Or take the numbers you selected and wheel them. Actually you could do each example separately... [ More ]

Reply #3

hypersoniq — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 18:13:06 GMT

One of the big problems I am facing right now is how to populate the first 25 lines in addition to the numbers that are repeated... I need to more closely analyze the trends... like... if the First number repeats, does one from 2,3 or 4 draws back accompany it more than 50% of the time?... I am basically trying to forecast dvents (repeats) rather than actual numbers, by using the wheel format I can account for each number repeating.I have the lines built up on a spreadsheet, when I enter the las... [ More ]

Reply #2

four4me — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 06:47:09 GMT

I never tried it like you have it posted. I think it's a good idea because some numbers do repeat and leaving them out narrows your chances greatly. In the same respect if no repeats show up your dependent on the remaining numbers to show either way you still have a chance.I tried breaking the spread into three groups so I could wheel the whole group of 52. And wheeling them. Two groups had hot and cold numbers and the third group had hot cold and lukewarm numbers. Sometimes I capture three whit... [ More ]

Reply #1

hypersoniq — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 06:35:43 GMT

another, simpler wheel would involve 44 lines and be open for both draws (Wed. Sat.)...made up of four eleven-line groups that contain all 53 numbers (all 53 can be caught in 11 lines with 2 open selecctions), all 42 powerballs and 2 picks for powerball of your choosing...Guarantee = $3 + having all 5 white balls 4 times

Powerball Wheel Design discussion...

hypersoniq — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 04:01:45 GMT

I have been over the prediction track for some time, and I think it's time to move on into trapping...In my many failed experiments with prediction, I have come to the conclusion that elimination is a big mistake, so rather than wheel 20 or 30 numbers, I would rather catch all of them a given number of times...Here's what I am working on for Powerball so far...the UberWheel...Lines = 42 (this is the basis for the wheel, play all 42, or target 3 for elimination---riskier--- and play 39, but that... [ More ]