Excellent Root Reduction Method!!

Reply #79

DailyPick3 — Sun, 02 May 2004 14:04:56 GMT

Reducing Combo's after Root Reduction!!Use Last 3 dif digit draw!Last numbers drawn=912912801790689578467356245134Start with last numbers drawn in actual position (9-1-2)Subtract 1 digit and list downward until you reach the starting digitOut of this list we want a 2# hit =1Bad example - 145 would not be good. 2# hit = 2 (1-4 4-5 hit on lines 8 9).Good example - 348 would be good. 2# hit = 1 (3-4 hit together on line 9)Using this method here are the allowable combo's for Texas Mid 5-1-0404... [ More ]

Reply #78

reddog — Sun, 02 May 2004 12:39:48 GMT

My head and eyes are hurting so bad right now from trying to get this beast into the cage. Man

Reply #77

Blackapple — Sun, 02 May 2004 11:03:49 GMT

Simplicity is the aim.

Reply #76

Blackapple — Sun, 02 May 2004 11:01:53 GMT

4 6 3 1 3 6 4 1 1 9 4 9 1 5 1 4 1 6Here are the keys 1,9(0) -then compare and match with 1,7,6,0 Pairs: 71,79,70-61,69,60,-01,90,00-11,19SIX sum needed 798=24=6.This example takes the center red digits(6 1)on line 9 10 and does a 4-3 3-4rundown doing only 6 1 in this order.

Reply #75

Blackapple — Sun, 02 May 2004 10:45:30 GMT

Another example 8/11/2003 PA> lotteryRequirements :the most recent four have different digits in each column841=4655=7 Eliminate=4,7,9196=7423=9 Allowable roots=1,2,3,5,6,8509 Winning root=6084273312=6 8/15/03 798* came760=4931 =4 * One from each column * Must use at least one red digit * The selection field is in green

Reply #74

Blackapple — Sun, 02 May 2004 09:55:33 GMT

Another example:And your last 4 rows look like this5 7 24 6 86 5 12 9 0 Know you must use a 6 or 5 or 1--------------------------------------------4 6 8 Take 5 6 in this order 6 5 1 Place 4 3 in between2 9 0 4 5 3 6 9 8 9 8 8 Brown is the first set of keys 9,8 Place 3 4 in between 3 5 4 6 8 9 1 8 1 Brown is second set of keys 8All brown keys 9, 8Compare

Reply #73

Blackapple — Sun, 02 May 2004 09:22:44 GMT

When its time for digit selection,find the rundown's near bottomcenter numbers8 8 57 7 29 3 90 9 42 6 81 1 63 2 36 5 4 Take 0 5 in this order4 0 7 Place 4 3 in between 5 4 1 4 0 3 5 4 3 8 7 2Brown are the first set of keys 4,7 Place 3 4 in between 3 0 4 5 3 4 9 7 4 Brown are second set of keys 3,7All brown keys 3,7,4Compare with the must-use red 5 4 0 7The 7 o... [ More ]

Reply #72

Blackapple — Sun, 02 May 2004 03:07:27 GMT

Keep it Simple

Reply #71

Blackapple — Sun, 02 May 2004 03:05:35 GMT

Another example 885 PA. Lottery 12/6/1998885=3 Eliminate 374 roots772=7939=3094=4 Allowable roots 1,2,5,6,8,9268 116323650=2 Winning root =2 --722407=2 541=1 came 12/11/1998 --------------------------------------------Highlighting the winner2 6 81 1 63 2 36 5 04 0 75 4 1

Reply #70

Clipper — Sun, 02 May 2004 03:05:25 GMT

As you can see from what you found....Sums 11-20 have been playing twice as much as 0-10 and 0-10 3 times more then 21-27 <G> Another decision you can make is whether the next Sums will be Even or Odd.I've heard that many things can be done with Excel. I've had some instructions in the software but nowhere capable of programming something in it. I do know there is a program in Excel for sale on the web that incorporates the alpha patterns like I use. Perhaps somebody will pick the idea up for... [ More ]

Reply #69

retxx — Sun, 02 May 2004 02:09:06 GMT

thanks clipper. I checked the last 63 days here and here is what i came up with;0-10=18 11=20=36 21-27=5can you tell me if I eliminate the 21-27 thats 5 but it still leaves a slew of umbers with the 9 plus the 3 12,and the 5 14. what next?thanks for any helpAlso what do you think about my idea for someone to write it into excel and have it do the calculations and suggest the numbers to play. I know there are many smart people on lottery post who can do it. Come on people.

Reply #68

Clipper — Sun, 02 May 2004 01:42:34 GMT

retxx = One suggestion I would make to you is to consider what Sum plays the most. Sums 11-20 will play 2 1/2 times more then Sums 0-10 and Sums 0-10 will play 3 times more then Sums 21-27.I track the denominations to determine when it's going to be something other then Sums 11-20.

Reply #67

retxx — Sun, 02 May 2004 01:33:16 GMT

confused;need help. After I did the formula I ended up with 3 root sums.the 3-5-9It gives me 3-12-21,5-14-23,9-18-27with no doubles to consider i still have 16 numbers x the 3-5-9 to playCan someone tell me how do I reduce this inordinate amount to a playable and reasonable investment? hope someone hears me and helps with a good step by step explanation. Thanks

Reply #66

Blackapple — Sun, 02 May 2004 00:01:42 GMT

Another piece of info.Doubles can be used.Just as long as there are different digits in the first threecolumns.

Reply #65

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 21:51:01 GMT

Another important piece447=6300=3195=6These are the last 3 rows frommy example. Do this and comparewith Allowable roots,in this case9,5,6,8,7,2 - 6,3,6The six considered an root toplay within 7 days.

Reply #64

Clipper — Sat, 01 May 2004 20:11:26 GMT

I havent even gotten it copied yet DailyPick3 lol Once I get some things organized around here I plan on working on it though <G

Reply #63

DailyPick3 — Sat, 01 May 2004 19:56:57 GMT

I am having major computer and internet probs today. Bad storms here. Will look into and elaborate myself on the findings, see if can post all in one step by step approach from begining to end. Unless Clipper beats me to it (hint hint hint)Daily

Reply #62

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 19:40:48 GMT

You can do both use the red digits.(no comparsion)or just take one digit fromeach column (using the rootreduction method #1 tothe fullest.

Reply #61

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 19:26:49 GMT

Hope someone will rehash these findingsfor public consumption.Filters along withred digits needed.

Reply #60

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 19:22:57 GMT

Errors foundAfter eliminating the most recent rootsthe more the better.Allowable roots kept,no comparsionsmade with most recent 3 draws digitsAs it might eliminate winning rootThis works with the center red digits.

Reply #59

Clipper — Sat, 01 May 2004 19:19:58 GMT

Peter = it looks like a lot when discussed over several post but once I get it all combined into one it probably wont look so overwhelming. Will send you a copy of it then <G

Reply #58

PeterAdvanced — Sat, 01 May 2004 19:09:34 GMT

YOUTH is waisted on the young .

Reply #57

PeterAdvanced — Sat, 01 May 2004 19:09:05 GMT

TOO much stuff to learn let alone copy so what's the use...

Reply #56

Clipper — Sat, 01 May 2004 18:56:05 GMT

Thanks Blackapple. Will need to copy this into Office so can study closer. Was waiting for the end <G

Reply #55

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 18:51:16 GMT

I'm done.Thank you.

Reply #54

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 18:49:25 GMT

The opposite end is not for this reduction method.Reduction method or not that 4 or 0 can be depended on withinseven days ,fact

Reply #53

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 18:46:11 GMT

4 4 7 3 0 0 1 9 5 The source ,the lead of upcoming combos.The other end likewise.

Reply #52

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 18:35:59 GMT

Within seven draws from the initial workoutnumber 956 you win.

Reply #51

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 18:31:53 GMT

956=20=2589=22=4728=17=8614=11=2071=8833262447300195 ELiminate sum total 2,8,4 Allowable sum tot. 1,3,5,6,7,9 List of digits from the most recent 3 draws 9,5,6,8,7,2 Sum totals sought 9,5,6,7 * Conditions you must use at least one red digit * One digit per column Only up to the green starting your combo formation. Winners 033=6,414=9

Reply #50

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 18:09:35 GMT

Here we go,PA. lottery 956 1/27 niteThe last four,most recent at the top956589728614Each column no repeatsThe remaining six do the cashorundown,take each position (column)What was the number before 614it was 058 ,so put 0 under the 6(not a repeat) For col.2 can't do 5 you have one For col.3 can't do 8 you have one Go the next combo previous to 058956728614071833262447300195

Reply #49

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 17:40:53 GMT

Checking into whether DailyPick wantsme to post here or start a new post.Either way, the first five digits for eachcolumn must not repeat to start with.IT has worked using four.But for thiswe will use five.

Reply #48

DailyPick3 — Sat, 01 May 2004 17:20:11 GMT

I'm itchin to start another hot topic, but would have liked to have gotten this one ironed out first. Because this is the starting point for selecting your numbers. Anyhow, I am posting it now.Daily

Reply #47

DailyPick3 — Sat, 01 May 2004 17:17:52 GMT

Blackapple--- JUST DO IT!!!I don't mind any add ons to this method. Most of us are pick 3 veterans of many years, I posted this method for input like yours so type away any time...Daily

Reply #46

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 17:11:38 GMT

I giving everyone a chance if youpay one,two or three numbers fora week you should get something back.Once I explain ,you Blackapple interpretershelp me. Do not just run with it.

Reply #45

Clipper — Sat, 01 May 2004 17:03:42 GMT

Know that feeling as well Blackapple. Just so much I can provide without giving out key information to my system lol

Reply #44

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 17:02:48 GMT

Thank you,Ram. That beast looks like youravatar

Reply #43

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 16:58:40 GMT

I giving DailyPick time to get abroadbecause it is he who helped pavedthe way. Cash34ologist is principalteacher.I thank him heartily forgiving us a glimpse of digit activity.I know he can not give away more of hissecrets then he would not have a business.

Reply #42

ram — Sat, 01 May 2004 16:56:25 GMT

Release the Beast!.../Ram

Reply #41

Sandy K — Sat, 01 May 2004 16:44:18 GMT

Blackapple, you are teasing us!!!I just wanted to post something so this thread remained on top....hopefully, more will see it and POST THAT YOU WANT BLACKAPPLE TO Release the Beast

Reply #40

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 16:27:20 GMT

Thats six.You will be glad you waitedfor this info.

Reply #39

mglsr — Sat, 01 May 2004 16:22:36 GMT

beasts need out blackapple

Reply #38

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 15:53:45 GMT

Count of five thus far.

Reply #37

retxx — Sat, 01 May 2004 15:45:58 GMT

add mine also,by the way it would be great if someone could put the numbers into excel and have it do the roots and pick the playable numbers. might crack the code. any responses to this post? thanks

Reply #36

Sandy K — Sat, 01 May 2004 15:18:59 GMT

Release the Beast, Blackapple.

Reply #35

txpolo — Sat, 01 May 2004 15:16:42 GMT

Ok Blackapple,please release the Beast.

Reply #34

reddog — Sat, 01 May 2004 14:42:19 GMT

Got to go. My son is bugging me about a haircut. I will catch up later.

Reply #33

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 14:38:56 GMT

By 11:30 Eastern Time or sooner maybe enough folks would have responded.

Reply #32

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 14:35:00 GMT

Thanks Clipper ,You make twoThere are 100 people online nowC'mon respond, Make my day.

Reply #31

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 14:32:21 GMT

This fine, You make the first response.There are others who know the add onsteps but wish not to post for the masses.Well I will tell what I know that will helphopefully other will come forth to add waysto enhance this method (#1).I have alreadyPM DailyPick.

Reply #30

Clipper — Sat, 01 May 2004 14:27:41 GMT

Im sure you are going to get the attention of a lot of people. Im working on Root Sum Databases myself even though I have the software I have. This is something else Im able to use my software to track.

Reply #29

reddog — Sat, 01 May 2004 14:24:24 GMT

where do you want us to respond? Here

Reply #28

Blackapple — Sat, 01 May 2004 14:21:50 GMT

I know the missing steps to Root ReductionsMethod #1. I know there are others who do.First I will converse with TexasDailyPickThis is ground breaking stuff he revealed.Been looking for this answer for months.If I can get ten responses to this postasking me to release the beast,I willtell important items needed to findthe hit.

Reply #27

PeterAdvanced — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 23:01:06 GMT

Give me your email adress so I can send a song

Reply #26

Clipper — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:52:56 GMT

Too late....already made my database lol Havent had chance to look at it yet as too pooped from entering two months worth of Midday and Evening informatoin lol

Reply #25

DailyPick3 — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:03:19 GMT

Clipper, no need to work on it I don't think. Can't hit everytime. It has missed a few, but lowers the total roots dramatically. Show me another method that reduces this well and hits every time. I will spend some time this weekend to look at the possibility of combined day and eve for this method. I also like the option of tracking even and odd roots. Blackapple has tested late last night this reduction method with eve and mid combined.Blackapple.... How were the results with combined eve and... [ More ]

Reply #24

Clipper — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:52:05 GMT

Well DailyPick3....921 played which would be Root 3. Looks like both of us missed this one. My Midday database sure was indicating Root 4 or 6. Looks like I better work on that Combined Database Root info

Reply #23

Sandy K — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:37:28 GMT

Webmaster Leroy,I disagree. I think it might depend on the state. But the combined draw is the only way to go in Michigan for tracking.I have been tracking for years now and there are a number of people who agree with the Michigan combined draw (Sedertree, TomCat, me....etc.) so I think it just depends on the state.

Reply #22

Webmaster L — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:24:11 GMT

Daily Pick 3,Thanks for being on track with the root sum elimination I keep a sheet ongoing in excel for IL on all the games and in one of my columns I can compare the root sums as I enter the numbers directly.And rarely do the sums come in again within the week.Yes the sums for midday might appear in the Eve game but we should learn to treat them as 2 separate games.Tracking these games shows this clearly.I will implement your methods into my existing strategies.Webmaster LeRoy

Reply #21

Clipper — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:02:13 GMT

I havent gotten around to combining the two databases yet lol Something I need to work on later today after I get back from therapy and errands <G>For Midday Im leaning towards 706, 564 and 580

Reply #20

DailyPick3 — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:22:14 GMT

Thank you Blackapple!!! I was wondering if the combined day and eve would work better. I will look at later today when I have time. I use to use this method in MO for Pick 4 and always did well. Won alot of money up there on this theory some years ago.Daily

Reply #19

Blackapple — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:58:02 GMT

Green light,Everthing checks out

Reply #18

Blackapple — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 06:50:53 GMT

For Root Reduction Method # 2Eliminate the most recent 7 rootsfrom play.Response usually within 3 daysCombining day eve roots works better-------------------------------------------Will investigate Root Reduction # 1Great simplication of combo creationthrough the Generator.Truly magnanimous presentationsYou and Clipper

Reply #17

PeterAdvanced — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 03:42:06 GMT

I officially give up .

Reply #16

DailyPick3 — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 01:48:20 GMT

I ran a slight test with the evening game, seems it is slightly different.you want to use the last 5 roots instead of eliminating them. But all other steps are the same.Daily

Reply #15

CalifDude — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:20:48 GMT

You're welcome, DailyPick3 and thank you for the reminder. I have not had the time to study this, yet. But I will tonight.

Reply #14

DailyPick3 — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:16:01 GMT

Very Nice CalifDude!!But remember not to use the doubles with this method. You are looking at non doubles to reduce the roots. I don't know if the same use of this method with doubles will work or not.Daily

Reply #13

CalifDude — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:03:16 GMT

Thank you and you're welcome, Clipper.

Reply #12

Clipper — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:06:54 GMT

Thanks Dude....nice chart <G

Reply #11

CalifDude — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:14:19 GMT

Hello, everyone. I just woke up. My daughter woke me to take her cat to the Vet. So very quickly...here is a chart of the root sums that people may want to refer to: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 000 001 002 003 004 005 006 007 008 009 019 011 012 013 014 015 016 017 018 028 029 039 022 023 024 025 026 027 037 038 048 049 059 033 034 035 036 046 047 057 058 068 069 079 044 045 055 056 066 067 077 078 088 089 099 118 119 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 127 128 129 139 122 123 124 125 126 136 137 138 148 149... [ More ]

Reply #10

Clipper — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:50:38 GMT

We are zigging and zagging DailyPick3. Just saw your post for 4-30 lol Explained a little to you what I had done in regards to tracking the Root Sums as I mentioned earlier that I might do.

Reply #9

DailyPick3 — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:44:17 GMT

Clipper - I have posted Texas mid 4-30 already.Yes, roots 4 6 are right. But the sleeper root is 8. So roots 4,6 8 are what I am focusing on. The roots 4 6 by my chart show 9 + draws out and they are just itching to come back in.I am also going for neighboring pairs and 1-2 evens.Daily

Reply #8

DailyPick3 — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:38:54 GMT

Danielle I think that I get some of how you are coming up with this method but I don't understand where your getting the most 3 recent numbers? This is the first method in step number#3. Step #3, using all digits from the last 3 draws4-28 mid 6044-27 mid 2844-26 mid 785604-284-785 = 2-4-5-6-7-8 (0 digit not used)These digits are the digits you cross reference with the allowable digits on step 2. Only duplicate digits found on lines 2 3 will be the ones you would use for your root number/s for... [ More ]

Reply #7

Clipper — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:00:19 GMT

Have you come up with any Root Sum for tomorrow? Im coming up with 4 or 6 which would equate to Sum 13 or 15. Charts are indicating an Even game tomorrow which they Sum Odd.

Reply #6

Danielle — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:59:41 GMT

I think that I get some of how you are coming up with this method but I don't understand where your getting the most 3 recent numbers? This is the first method in step number#3. Thanks,Danielle

Reply #5

DailyPick3 — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:55:11 GMT

Was wondering when you would reply to this Clipper.It definitely is not an everyday hitting method, but it is a good method to use consistently.Daily

Reply #4

Clipper — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:51:01 GMT

Looks like something with possibilities. Unfortunately though it didnt work with the Texas Midday today :( 819 = Root 9. I might track the Root Sums though lol I was looking for an ODD game with either the 8 or 9 in the 3rd position. Liked the 8 to play but wasnt seeing both the 8 and 9 playing together

Reply #3

DailyPick3 — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:58:18 GMT

Doubles won't work this way, this is for only draws with 3 dif digits.Since double draws aren't used for the above method a double draw coming in today doesn't effect anything. The above NY method and results are still good for tomorrow. Only need to update on a daily basis if a 3 dif digit draw comes in.Daily

Reply #2

DailyPick3 — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:36:10 GMT

HIi Daily pick I have a question,How do I get the allowable roots? This is te NY midday numbers from the most recent to april 24I have not used nor tested any other state, but here is your answerNY Mid Draw (most recent 1st)513=root 9370=root 1798=root 6860=root 5917=root 8Root Reduction Method #1Eliminate the most recent 5 roots from play (1-5-6-8-9)Allowable roots are now (2-3-4-7)List the numbers from the most recent 3 draws (1-3-5-7-8-9)Play only duplicated numbers from lines 2 an... [ More ]

Reply #1

DailyPick3 — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:43:15 GMT

Roots (4,6,7) = allowable sums (4,6,7,13,15,16,22,24,25).Generator setupPairs (neighboing #'s) 2 skips = dueEven numbers allowed = 1-2Available combo's by sums 4,6,7015 - 124 - 034 - 016 - 123 - 013Available combo's by sums 13,15,16 457 - 067 - 349 - 346 - 348 - 238 - 267 - 256 - 456 - 178 - 078 - 367 Available combo's by sums 22,24,25 589 - 679 - 789 Daily

Excellent Root Reduction Method!!

DailyPick3 — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:18:15 GMT

Use the last 5 draws containing 3 dif digits ONLY!!Texas Mid Draw (most recent 1st)604 = root 1284 = root 5785 = root 2047 = root 2341 = root 8Root Reduction Method #1Eliminate the most recent 5 roots from play (1-5-2-2-8)Allowable roots are now (3-4-6-7-9)List the numbers from the most recent 3 draws (0-2-4-5-6-7-8)Play only duplicated numbers from lines 2 and 3 (4-6-7)Root Reduction Method #2Eliminate the most recent 9 roots from play (1-5-2-8-7-3-9-5)Allowable and playable roots are now (4-6