Ever want to play in other States?

Reply #26

unseen — Tue, 15 Jun 2004 18:30:51 GMT

it would too much of a pain to fix lotteries. They are after all audited..if you remember the famous case of the guy in Penn who fixed the balls so that only 4's and 6's would come up and then bet thousands on numbers with 4's and 6's. He and some friends ended up winning over a million but were caught later on. You can submit tickets something like 10 minutes before the cut off time. They would have to go in 10-20 minutes before the drawing check all the numbers and then go in and fix the balls... [ More ]

Reply #25

RJOh — Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:40:54 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on June 14, 2004 I can't really say whether lotteries are fixed though I would never play in a computer drawn game, that's for sure. Most people think of fixed meaning who wins is predetermined. However, the lottery wins when everyone loses. It would not be all that hard when the amount wagered on each Pick-3 and Pick-4 number is known prior to the draw, to make sure a particular digit necessary to complete a over subscribed number isn't drawn. When all is... [ More ]

Reply #24

LANTERN — Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:03:36 GMT

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Reply #23

BobP — Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:55:25 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by LANTERN on June 13, 2004Can you explain better about that neteller acct, where and how you get it?And whatever else we might need to know, please.This is the kind of thing that Filos has been telling me about, that he does on Europe, with bookmakers or whatever the word is, he plays many different european lotteries whenever he wants, he is from Italy.He tells me that I am wasting my time buying state lotterytickets, that I and everybody else should always use the boo... [ More ]

Reply #22

winsumloosesum — Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:27:00 GMT

Win D,Maybe we should go back to Chances Are Sappy Love Songshttp://www.sappylovesongs.net/ChancesAre.htmlwsls

Reply #21

winsumloosesum — Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:10:45 GMT

It would also be nice to receive rebates like ehorse.com pays each month on the amount wagered.wsls

Reply #20

winsumloosesum — Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:09:34 GMT

That is a strange rule about not playing in your own state.I found this out also to a degree in playing the horses. I tried signing up to a service but was declined due to the fact that I lived too close to a local track that was being used for betting purposes. Maybe they thought I could fix races!!I was able to play using ehorse.com and Neteller account and never had an issue on money transfers from winnings.wsls

Reply #19

LANTERN — Mon, 14 Jun 2004 01:00:42 GMT

Can you explain better about that neteller acct, where and how you get it?And whatever else we might need to know, please.This is the kind of thing that Filos has been telling me about, that he does on Europe, with bookmakers or whatever the word is, he plays many different european lotteries whenever he wants, he is from Italy.He tells me that I am wasting my time buying state lotterytickets, that I and everybody else should always use the bookmakers ( I am not sure if. that is the right word f... [ More ]

Reply #18

Littleoldlady — Mon, 14 Jun 2004 00:10:39 GMT

Yes, I did that, too. Waiting patiently for verification

Reply #17

qutgnt — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:37:12 GMT

I have a neteller acct that makes it simple for all the online sportsbooks and stuff to pay, I suggest everyone start one up (just like paypal).

Reply #16

Littleoldlady — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:28:18 GMT

I can't believe a 25 cents play..I went there and registered ( ) but haven't done anything else yet..I have no idea where to get a prepaid atm card from..I think I saw them once but don't know where....I am game to try it..

Reply #15

RJOh — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 22:20:25 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on June 13, 2004Those predictions forum stats are misleading however. It doesn't count the one's that are leaned on and thats all the difference in the world. That's really everything. Most folks lose most of the time. Some folks win really big sometimes. I agree the overall figures may be misleading, but you can track the winners separately and see the numbers of predictions they made that day to get an idea of their batting average. With average payback being... [ More ]

Reply #14

qutgnt — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:49:22 GMT

There really isnt much to say, its pretty self explanatory. They do pay and they do pay on time. A ten percent house edge is still a huge edge, like playing propositions in craps. Some of these sites as pinnaclesports.com offer ridiculously low house edges in sporting dvents. I just say that people need to play where they get paid the most. And to me is a no brainer. You can play many states and at those rates you could bet half what you usually do (25cents).

Reply #13

JAP69 — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 19:00:04 GMT

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Reply #12

WIN D — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:19:43 GMT

I've really never done predictions. Those predictions forum stats are misleading however. It doesn't count the one's that are leaned on and thats all the difference in the world. That's really everything. Most folks lose most of the time. Some folks win really big sometimes. That's it. No one talks money. I only posted predictions (really just my plays) one time for one week..... and that was on the discussion forum to prove a point to a PROTAGONIST type. I posted and won over a thousand buc... [ More ]

Reply #11

JAP69 — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:05:58 GMT

Get me one of those prepaid cards I would give it a go. Will check on one of them cards this week if I get the timeHave thought of those sites before but only checked the carib sports site without opening an account.I would play the states east of the Mississippi.

Reply #10

RJOh — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 17:39:32 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on June 13, 2004 ...for some folks on this forum this is like a license to steal. They would have to ban them .....not as card counters but Number Trackers Banned for life. LOL Since most of these Number Trackers are posting on the prediction board, anyone can use their numbers like a license to steal if they are really that good. So far the board using State payout rates has averaged 40-50% pay back so it may be harder than you might think to make a pro... [ More ]

Reply #9

WIN D — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:50:09 GMT

That's just too much to take in . The only draw back is you can't play your own state. I wonder why. Ofcourse...you are Ill. and play Iowa. Isn't that actually the same game? But ...for some folks on this forum this is like a license to steal. They would have to ban them .....not as card counters but Number Trackers Banned for life. LOL Gutgnt.... tell us anything else you know about this that might help. I see there are no str/box. At these payouts ....I guess that's moot point.... [ More ]

Reply #8

qutgnt — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:18:39 GMT

Yes I have played with them before and they do pay. Why wouldnt these sites pay out 90%? They are still in the long run going to make a lot of money. There is so much more competition out there these days that if you shop around you will get good deals. If you are lazy and want the govt to have even more of your money best of luck to you.

Reply #7

WIN D — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:08:07 GMT

Good grief!!!!!! This thing is almost to good to be true. Hmmm Lottery From HomePlay all states* Pick 3 and Pick 4 lotteries from your home computer with higher payouts that your states lottery. Pick 3 pays 900 to 1, Pick 4 pays 9000 to 1. (*Except your home state.)InformationSelect your lucky numbers. The numbers are 0 through 9, if you are playing Pick 3 select all 3 numbers, Pick 4 select all 4 numbers. Don't have a number in mind? Click on Quick Picks to randomly select them for you.Choos... [ More ]

Reply #6

WIN D — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:44:36 GMT

Thanks gutgnt. Have you been playing with them a long time? That 90% sounds interesting. I just can't figure why these sites are not brought up more on the forum. Seems like a better way.....if you can trust them.

Reply #5

qutgnt — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:37:32 GMT

The BEST online site to use for pick 3 and pick 4 is . They payback 90% on these bets. (not a crappy 70%) They are a big book so no need to worry about them not paying. I never have had a problem. Why people play their state lotteries when they pay back 50% and not online is way beyond me. A 90% payback game I can see as being beatable. The only problem with this site is you cant bet the state lottery that you reside in. But I dont see why that should matter. If you live in ILL play i... [ More ]

Reply #4

winsumloosesum — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:12:56 GMT

Sounds like a plan Win D.Do they have a limit on the numbers of the same tickets you could purchase?I guess the best thing is to play and see?wsls

Reply #3

IWish — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:00:32 GMT

I have not use them for awhile. Doubles payout are $100. They do not play front and back pairs. You can not call your cash 3 plays in. The cut off time is about 6 minutes early than the state in which you are playing. The sign up is free. You can sign up for and account and just take a tour before you make a deposit.

Reply #2

WIN D — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:51:02 GMT

Thanks Iwish. You said you used it for awhile for cash 3 ? Do you still use them on occasion? Whats the cut off time before State draws? Can you call in your picks? Hey ...5o.oo for box hit is good how about doubles? Do they do front and back pairs too? Did you ever play another states game there? Did you find yourself playing more than you wanted to? It seems so easy. Maybe too easy for me. Probably end up playing 3 states all at once. Hmmmm Ofcourse ......I could win more when I did. Ahhhhh

Reply #1

IWish — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:30:31 GMT

Hey WindI have being a member of that website for about a year. I have never had a problem with payouts. I use it for my sports wagering activities and for a while I was using it to play my cash 3 numbers. If you can keep money in your account you will never have to leave your house. The payout is more and yes I have won on a couple of occasion for 6 way box hits which I collected $50. The good thing about this site is you can get your money the same day by using a prepaidatm card. This card i... [ More ]

Ever want to play in other States?

WIN D — Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:48:29 GMT

Ever want to play Cash 3/4 in other states? I have. Many times I have seen a special situation in another state that I wished I could play. Special trap situations that are about to fall into place. These don't come up that often in just one State..... but at least one of our States is undergoing one of these kinds of opportunity each day. The only way to play the cash 3/4 games in other states ....that I know of..... is through a company outside the country. The only one that I have seen is c... [ More ]