Keep games Separate ..Midday&Eve.

Reply #18

LANTERN — Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:16:40 GMT

WoodyWhat if they 5 or 100 test drawings or if they use the machines and or ball in other games or not, in the end all that you have to work with is the history of the draws, regardless of how the numbers came to be, in the end you are only left with thew history of the draws and that is all that you have to work with, so use that to get the winning number with, you, I and anybody else can do it.

Reply #17

Woody — Mon, 05 Jul 2004 18:41:49 GMT

In Texas the mid-day and night games are generated by the same machines and same balls...........so why would you treat them as separate games?? That would be like taking a one a day draw and useing every other draw in your analysis??? Doesn't make sense to me. Another consideration is that if your state runs a test of the machines prior to a draw that further complicates the ability to analyze the previous drawing......... in Texas they run (I think) 5 test drawings prior to the record draw b... [ More ]

Reply #16

LANTERN — Wed, 30 Jun 2004 05:38:26 GMT

color=#0000ffjoyjoy8What ever they do or don't do, or however they do it does not matter, in the end all the matters is the numbers that come out, the winning numbers, the history of the draws, the game's matrix and it's statistics.The statistics of the numbers (Of the history) is all that matters in the end, what they do or not or how they do it to arrive to the winning number(s), does not really matter, the only thing that counts are the numbers that come out and their statistics.Logical or il... [ More ]

Reply #15

gilla — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:56:54 GMT

I try to look at all three...,mid,eve, and combined....when I can't see anything from the mid or eve, I look at combined....in looking at positional, I tend to look at the combined more.....If you see something in both,,,usually pretty good.....

Reply #14

joyjoy8 — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:43:30 GMT

In Texas the TLC uses the same balls and the same machines for both draws, changing machines and balls on the first day of each month. That would seem that it would be one continous draw. They also do 4 sets of pre-test before each draw, (which I consider {cheating} lol. What that means to me is that I am never doing a rundown or using a system on the last number drawn. Out of the thousands and thousand of dollars collected each day by the TLC. Average payout is usually less than 400 winners E... [ More ]

Reply #13

WIN D — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:59:30 GMT

Here is a good example on the pro side of combining draws.Like I noted before, I do look over my shoulder at the other draw. Below is combined Midday and Evening Draws for Ga. until today. 882 631 starting with the middle position digit 3 follow the unbroken zig zag line of six odd digits all the way down to first position 7 in 761. Six odds in a row ! 944 535 253 659 761 203 Notice the zig zag line ended with the expected even digit zero. Now notice the unbroken straigh... [ More ]

Reply #12

TomCat — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:44:55 GMT

Oh, did I mention that my customers and I hit the 4 digit STRAIGHT in the midday? If you want to have access to see the actual worksheet I provide my customers it is online still till tonight... In our forums I told people to prepare for a triple and double double in the 4 digit - they are way behind....You can see the actual tickets I won on at http://www.winthelotto.net/mostrecent.html (tonight I will scan the check from the State of Michigan so you can stare at that as well!!)I did promise

Reply #11

TomCat — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:23:47 GMT

I do need to clarify my position on this thread though. I treat the games seperate AND combined. Thus I could not vote in the poll because it makes you chose one or the other. I think it is equally important to track the 3 digit as a single game, the 4 digit as a single game AND then combine them as one game. More often then not I win on the combination data, but there are days the individual game data gave me the winner and not the combo data....

Reply #10

LANTERN — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:18:56 GMT

TOMCatI was wanted to bring some humor to this.I am glad that you have a winning system for the pick 3 also.Some people just cry that Can't be done can't be done And never learn or anything.But they do keep on crying that they can never win.But never do anything about it.As you well know Can do, works better than can't do That is why you can win the pick 3 and can't do people don't.Good job TomCat.

Reply #9

TomCat — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:51:17 GMT

Ouch! Needless to say I hate that saying....

Reply #8

LANTERN — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:48:15 GMT

As I said, whatever works for you best it all has to do with your particular system, they say that there is more than one way to skin a cat (Sorry TomCat

Reply #7

TomCat — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:24:25 GMT

Here is some proof to why I like to treat it as one game... This is just one of the postings I made on 6/27 around the country to attract people to my website.... 747 fell last night in Michigan, one day after I posted it would fall....The MAIN REASON you need to treat the games as just ONE game, that I call Combo is because in Michigan, and most other states, it is a mechanical device that draws the numbers. Each popcorn ball machine is unique, and rotated daily to create more randomness... [ More ]

Reply #6

LANTERN — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 06:29:02 GMT

It all depends in what system you are using.With some methods it's best to separate and with others together, it has happened to be both ways, depending on the particular system, if it works best together then together, if separate then separate, do it by trial and error, test and find out for sure.The systems that I use now require separate draws to work.But some things that I tried before worked best with the 2 draws together, but the new (not so new) methods work better than the old ones.What... [ More ]

Reply #5

WIN D — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:00:32 GMT

I agree with you Orangeman.......but you can inter splice as many games as you like. We could include Florida and Texas and their Pick 4 games as well ..... and they would interact too. I also think that you could play every other game draw with any another state and it would interact. Really. The laws of probability would still apply as long as you were consistent. I sincerely believe that you could stack every U.S. p-3 game.... one on top of the other.... and we could make that work too. It's... [ More ]

Reply #4

orangeman — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 02:42:37 GMT

My studies have shown that the midday and evening drawings interact. It is instructive to stack them together and see what is revealed. The skip number is also valuable. These things interact.Orangeman

Reply #3

WIN D — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:33:06 GMT

uc11, That is an interesting site. I know of one other person who mixes the pick-4 and 3 data. He does better than most. It has to do with Touch and No touch of the number combinations. I think there are 54 touch combinations alone. No human can crunch that much. He was one of the first to use a computer for that type of system. I do not get it myself. I do know that it does force you to play both games...... or you could miss.

Reply #2

UCI1 — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:55:10 GMT

I think it depends on the analysis that your using. If you want to consider that the midday and evening drawings are coming from the same 3 machines and/or ball sets. If I understand the TomCat forum http://www.winthelotto.net , Tom uses the pick3 and pick4 combined as well as seperate in his analysis.

Reply #1

rrr661 — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 20:38:55 GMT

in my opini

Keep games Separate ..Midday&Eve.

WIN D — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:19:30 GMT

They are two different games. If you don't mind playing both games everyday then I guess it's ok. If you don't mind playing and spending twice as much money on a Trap it's OK.I still say... The best FILTER anyone can use is to Separate the two games