Guru V1.8- sep,oct,nov,dec,jan??

Reply #70

vick — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:04:24 GMT

i understand, let me know w

Reply #69

Raziel — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:13:37 GMT

Vick: Not yet, I've been waiting for 1.8 to come out becauser I thought 1.7 did not support it. Although I have asked Guru numerous questions on it and have followed the many posts on it. So i do understand how lottosync works.....However how you are picking for Keno intrigues me.....since you are having success with it I'm now considering purchasing 1.7 and will try it and wait for 1.8 later.Raziel

Reply #68

vick — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:07:42 GMT

Raziel do you have lottosync

Reply #67

Raziel — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:22:26 GMT

Vick: How do you modify the inputsRaziel

Reply #66

vick — Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:17:08 GMT

Guru ok will do soon .--------------------------------Raziel i use the predicted numbers of the lottosyn program to make keno numbers, eyt you have to modify the inputs slighty.

Reply #65

Raziel — Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:13:20 GMT

Vick good going Always pleased when fellow canadians winI play Ontario Keno as well.....tell me how do you pick your numbers for Keno...I did not think 1.7 supported Keno.....Do you just randomly pick the 10 numbers you input out of the 20....or do you have a a system of picking your numbers to keep it consistent.thanks Raziel

Reply #64

Guru — Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:23:58 GMT

Vick:Can you send me an email or a private message expanding a little on your method for doing keno predictions withlottosync 1,7. It would be nice to check out. It may even contribute in the development of LS 1,8thanks,marco

Reply #63

Guru — Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:49:49 GMT

Very happy to hear that fro

Reply #62

lottoshlep — Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:31:42 GMT

Nice!! Congrats Vick ...

Reply #61

vick — Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:03:36 GMT

I just won $1000 in keno

Reply #60

dragon — Tue, 21 Sep 2004 15:02:39 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Guru on September 21, 2004NONO RJOH:That is not what I was trying to explain.Permutations was a wrong term to begin with. I used it just because the others used this term and I did not want to confuse them.What they meant was not permutations, but combinations. Now in a 42 number lottery there are 5,245,786 possible combinations.What I was trying to make clear was that those 5,245,786 individual combinations of six numbers may appear in a time series in almost infinit... [ More ]

Reply #59

Guru — Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:36:29 GMT

NONO RJOH:That is not what I was trying to explain.Permutations was a wrong term to begin with. I used it just because the others used this term and I did not want to confuse them.What they meant was not permutations, but combinations. Now in a 42 number lottery there are 5,245,786 possible combinations.What I was trying to make clear was that those 5,245,786 individual combinations of six numbers may appear in a time series in almost infinite ways. I'm not talking about the order of the numbers... [ More ]

Reply #58

RJOh — Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:39:39 GMT

Correct me if I'm wrong.The number of permutations of 6/49 = 49 x 48 x 47 x 46 x 45 x 44 = 10,068,347,520The number of permutations of 6/6 = 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 x 6 = 720There are 10,068,347,520 ways a group of 6 numbers of 49 can appear.There are 720 ways any group of 6 numbers can appear.If each of those groups of 6 numbers are only shown in a descending order, they can only be shown in 10,068,347,520 / 720 = 13,983,816 ways.The number of combinations of 6 numbers in a group of 49 = 10,068,347... [ More ]

Reply #57

Guru — Tue, 21 Sep 2004 08:20:08 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by dragon on September 20, 2004same here.I just wonder why it would take billions of tries before the results come out.Oh God! Particularly when there are only several tens of millions of permutations in most 6/xx lotteries....Aha. This is an interesting misconception. There are indeed only a limited amount of possible permutations (horizontally) in a lottery, but the possibilities of order in time (vertical order) in wich those permutations can appear are almost infin... [ More ]

Reply #56

dragon — Mon, 20 Sep 2004 22:08:36 GMT

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Reply #55

trance — Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:57:46 GMT

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Reply #54

dragon — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:33:06 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on September 15, 2004I hope this explains it a little better.RJOhI am sure guru is a crack programmer and knows his stuff. Perhaps he is simply not doing a very good job explaining what's going on to non-programmers. It is really not my place to criticize him. I am not using his program. It sounds like my comments didn't help at all.

Reply #53

dragon — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:28:55 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Guru on September 15, 2004dragon:It's not because you don't understand what it means that it has no meaning !!Excuse me? Where did I insinuate that something has no meaning? I simply asked a question, hoping for clarification. Take another look at the sentence below that is not taken out of context:It takes billions of tries because the similarity must be unique enough to allow accuracy.What similarity (to what?) is unique enough to allow accuracy (measured by what... [ More ]

Reply #52

RJOh — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:15:51 GMT

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Reply #51

vick — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:04:43 GMT

boys = upgrade your computers i can usually do the 649 type lottos in 30 min to 2 hour for ver 1.6 with the default samples, and about 4 to 5 hours with ver 1.7 with default sample, and 5.5 hours for keno with 1.7 default, this with a p4 3 ht 800 mhz with 1 gb.Now, i imagine if you had the latest processor, if i am not mistaken is the p4 3.6 800 HT Extreme edition [with 2 mb cache] you would probably see a 30 to 50 % improvement, and also get yourself 1 sweet fast computer in the process

Reply #50

LANTERN — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:03:17 GMT

Am also thinking about physical characteristics of the random dvent such as the individual speed of the balls or numbers and the time in between each ball and or number, but these apply and might be factors to or for the actual lottery draws, but they might have nothing to do with the way LottoSync gets the numbers, but for an actual physical reproduction of the particular random dvent thay would be important, also spin of the balls if any.You are trying to reproduce a physical dvent in a virtu... [ More ]

Reply #49

Guru — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:39:21 GMT

pff.

Reply #48

Guru — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:25:44 GMT

dragon:It's not because you don't understand what it means that it has no meaning

Reply #47

Guru — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:13:40 GMT

Lantern

Reply #46

ocguy — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:47:19 GMT

Dragon,You have the balls man. Its about time!Dave

Reply #45

dragon — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:41:30 GMT

Well, this is the debate we have about every lottery program all the time. I don't think that's subject to discussion here anymore. When I read guru's sentence above, I just couldn't figure out what he was saying at all. That sentence had no meaning.My challenge is that even if you have to do 1 billion comparison operations of 6 and 6 numbers, and if each were to take 1000 clock cycles, in a 1GHz machine, you should be able to do that in a second. Since this thread questioned the efficiency of t... [ More ]

Reply #44

LANTERN — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:04:51 GMT

I might be wrong, but this is what I think. The last 3 draws entered are perhaps sort of like a fingerprint of the randomness of the game at that particular time and maybe LottoSync produces a random stream output of numbers and compares the sequence of the numbers of the last 3 draws against it's random output and tries to find the same sequence or as much the same as possible in it's output as it was on the 3 draws entered and when it finds it it follows that sequence and records that number... [ More ]

Reply #43

dragon — Wed, 15 Sep 2004 05:26:25 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Guru on September 14, 2004It takes billions of tries because the similarity must be unique enough to allow accuracy.What

Reply #42

Guru — Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:51:39 GMT

Paul:Lottosync does not just look at those last 3 draws and do some hocus pocus pattern analysis with the few numbers in it. (that would only take a nanosecond to compute).No, it forces a random flow into the state of the last three draws. It analyses patterns in the data it generates and compares this to the state your lottery game is in. It really takes billions of tries to come to a satisfactory similarity between the generated data and the actual lotto results.It takes billions of tries beca... [ More ]

Reply #41

paul762 — Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:31:05 GMT

guru, GH software can recognise patterns instantly from hundreds or thousands of draw results, yet LS took 10+ hours for a prediction from the last 3 draws, something doesnt seem quite right, thats all.

Reply #40

Guru — Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:30:08 GMT

Paul:It is based on an average of 8 hours. Wich should be not too different from aprox. 6 hours, but testing a system should be done with the most safety margin.Clearly you wish for a system that is fast (let's say top predictions in 10 minutes). I wish I could fly from Europe to Australia in just 10 minutes. But we'll both have to admit that this is currently out of reach.Things just are the way they are. I never wanted to create a system that would have to run for hours, but unfortunately ther... [ More ]

Reply #39

Guru — Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:29:16 GMT

Reply #38

paul762 — Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:27:38 GMT

guru, you mentioned previously about the accuracy of 3 numbers from 9 every 3 draws, but i'd like to know if this accuracy is based on the 30 min. prediction or the 6 hour+ prediction.

Reply #37

vick — Sun, 12 Sep 2004 01:30:55 GMT

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Reply #36

spock — Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:00:35 GMT

I can see Guru now with that white beard red coat and 1.8. in the sack...

Reply #35

Guru — Sat, 11 Sep 2004 15:17:30 GMT

Paul:nonononono After 30 mins there is a first result, but the longer you let it run the better. Let's say for a pick6 prediction running on a 2 gigherz computer 3 to 6 hours is more than enough.The first results of lottosync. is like the first results of the elections when not all votes are counted yet. They give a good indication of what the final results will be, but things may still shift a bit.Raziel:Keno will be supported

Reply #34

Raziel — Sat, 11 Sep 2004 14:51:05 GMT

Will 1.8 will still support KENO GuruRaziel

Reply #33

paul762 — Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:25:21 GMT

guru, I dont understand, why would I want to let it run longer if after 30 mins. it already has the best results it can find? this sounds like there will be accuracy problems again, just like when we had to choose the sample rating, but now its how long you leave it running. looks like i'm going to be stuck with the second(losing) group again and i'll probably end up with the same results as with 1.6

Reply #32

Guru — Sat, 11 Sep 2004 06:42:03 GMT

Paul:Haven't made an exact speed comparison with v1,6 and 1,7, but it's going to be significantly faster.Plus. It will already have a result after something like half an hour. After that it continues doing refinement cycles on the prediction. So basicly you can let it run untill you need the numbers. After that first half hour it will always be ready with the best result it could find. The longer you let it run however, the better.I've chosen for this method because it offers more flexibility th... [ More ]

Reply #31

reddog — Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:18:24 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Raziel on September 10, 2004 I'm glad your still plugging away on it and quite happy it will be available before Christmas.When !.8 is released I'm buyingRazielwhere did you get the idea that it was going to be avaliable before Christmas? I haven't heard a straight answer about anything yet.No time frame, no updates, nothing.

Reply #30

paul762 — Fri, 10 Sep 2004 20:36:18 GMT

guru, you havent mentioned the speed issue, will 1.8 be faster than the rest? if so by how much

Reply #29

Raziel — Fri, 10 Sep 2004 13:56:46 GMT

I'm glad your still plugging away on it and quite happy it will be available before Christmas.When !.8 is released I'm buyingRaziel

Reply #28

Guru — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:38:46 GMT

Trance:Absolutely. I plan to do so later this year.

Reply #27

trance — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 13:59:51 GMT

guru,why not post ur predictions by the system

Reply #26

Guru — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 11:46:07 GMT

Reddog:It won't take that long

Reply #25

reddog — Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:01:09 GMT

Well, I guess, with no reply, the answer MUST be next year.

Reply #24

reddog — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:56:03 GMT

Guru, I realize Rome wasn't built in a day, but what you have done is left yourself open. Good and slowly good mean one to two years.Last preseption given to us back in May was it would be ready in September time frame. Do you mean this year

Reply #23

GRRowl — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:56:00 GMT

Guru, thanks for the update.

Reply #22

Guru — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:50:17 GMT

To all interested:I am aware that some of you are anticipating the release of 1,8 but I'm doing this good and slowly at the moment. I don't want to make the same mistake as I did with the buggy 1,7 version.Believe me, 1,8 will be worth the wait. It is definetely going to make a real big difference.

Reply #21

paul762 — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:23:00 GMT

lottosyncman, you are right I suppose, we did get 1.6, it just wound me up, wheres the respect!! forget the greed!! if it was about greed, no-one would be helping each other by giving out all the advice etc. sorry guys it just rattled my cage.

Reply #20

BobP — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:05:22 GMT

Let's not kill the golden goose because we're impatient for the eggs. BobP

Reply #19

lottosyncman — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:31:52 GMT

take it easy everyone! listen we did buy software it was 1.6 so in essence we got lotto software the upgrade is just a gesture what if guru told us we would have to pay for 1.8 i guarantee a few of us would be not anticipating its release

Reply #18

paul762 — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:28:06 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by psykomo on August 27, 2004LP Members: (8-27-04)May I ask, where is your respect? (Forget the...GREED.)?a lot of people have been waiting a long time for this software, so keep your face out of my business, its my right to ask where the software is or how its going, becasue ive paid for it, and the goods havent been delivered yet. if the product wasnt upto the standard he wanted it at, then he shouldnt have sold it at that time, this thing has been running on for too

Reply #17

reddog — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 10:31:34 GMT

True, I didn't look at that wa

Reply #16

Colin F — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 07:27:54 GMT

Reply #15

plumbusa — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 06:36:12 GMT

I bet you are.

Reply #14

BobP — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 05:40:47 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Colin F on August 28, 2004reddogCredit should be given where credit is due; Bobo7703's result is very good - equivalent to a 10 out of 10 at the Olympics. Here's why.For the prize structure used my tests with Random Selections show about 44% is returned for say around i$10,000 spent. Now, please note if you get a straight on the last draw having spent that much it doesn't make a big percentage difference. If you've only spent a $1,000 it could put you into the 100... [ More ]

Reply #13

Colin F — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 05:00:17 GMT

reddogCredit should be given where credit is due; Bobo7703's result is very good - equivalent to a 10 out of 10 at the Olympics. Here's why.For the prize structure used my tests with Random Selections show about 44% is returned for say around i$10,000 spent. Now, please note if you get a straight on the last draw having spent that much it doesn't make a big percentage difference. If you've only spent a $1,000 it could put you into the 100% + mark but you get that with Random elections.I will bel... [ More ]

Reply #12

reddog — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:56:57 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Colin F on August 27, 2004Paul 762 et alARE YOU BLIND?Look in the Predictions Sections for Pick 3 and see the brilliant performance of Bobo 7703 - Spent i$11,450 and has got back i$6,930. Yes, that's a whopping big 78%.Forget Guru and all the other false prophets. Their day has gone. The new reality is starring you in the face. I suggest you study the methods of Bobo. He in my opinion is a REAL GURU. Uh, Colon, that is a - $4,520 loss. If Bobo had of spent $11,45... [ More ]

Reply #11

psykomo — Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:03:18 GMT

Guru, we all know anything worthwhile is a tough........ business. If you design airplanes, boats or cars, it is a TOUGH business. I am sure, software is not the easy art or ....science. Believe me, I have respect for( YOU ),Belgium and all of the people in your country. LP Members: (8-27-04)May I ask, where is your respect? (Forget the...GREED.)?IT took 52 years for a Belgium farmers son to organize and build a memorial monument to an American warrior.... pilot (ACE) shot down on his fathe... [ More ]

Reply #10

Colin F — Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:50:28 GMT

Paul 762I know that but you have the PowerBall Game there.Now, how do you go about getting the PowerBall? I know it's hard when you're considering 49 numbers or so cycling over. I'm thinking of Pick 3 and Pick 4 as 3 or 4 PowerBalls cycling away even before I've got down to the nitty gritty of testing it out. If someone else has a better conceptual way of looking at it I'd love to hear it.OK. If you're getting exceptional results with 3 PowerBalls then there is something there I'd like to know a... [ More ]

Reply #9

paul762 — Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:35:41 GMT

colin, there are no pick 3 or 4 games in the uk.

Reply #8

Colin F — Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:47:02 GMT

Paul 762 et alARE YOU BLIND?Look in the Predictions Sections for Pick 3 and see the brilliant performance of Bobo 7703 - Spent i$11,450 and has got back i$6,930. Yes, that's a whopping big 78%.Forget Guru and all the other false prophets. Their day has gone. The new reality is starring you in the face. I suggest you study the methods of Bobo. He in my opinion is a REAL GURU.I haven't started on Pick 3 or Pick 4 yet (learning all this asp stuff) but he has certainly put the wind up me.How can I... [ More ]

Reply #7

BobP — Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:46:44 GMT

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Reply #6

ocguy — Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:09:26 GMT

Ok people lets get real here for ONCE!!First off ill say that i purchased this software so don't jump down my throats after i say what I'm about to say.This program and all others before it and those to come after it are like fortune tellers . A fortune teller is an expert at reading you and manipulating you. The programmer of lottosync (guru) knows you are in search of the proverbial pot of gold that is the lotto. However you cant predict something from randomness. The only thing that will win... [ More ]

Reply #5

paul762 — Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:49:18 GMT

3 numbers 50% was on belgian lotto trial, on a previous post, when we had all the hype about 1.6, I never had anywhere near that on uk lotto either, and I also tried using numbers on next draw, lost also. apparently I was in the group who never won, dont know what happens if this happens with 1.8 though, as you say ,it will have to impress. probably wont bother after 1.8.

Reply #4

spock — Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:41:30 GMT

Tried using predicted numbers on second draw guess what lost twice as much on same numbers.. 1,8 needs Tobe one hell of an improvement.In my experience 1.6 never lived up to expectations.(3 numbers 50% no way

Reply #3

paul762 — Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:19:17 GMT

due to the previous V1.6 trial and the prediction engine odds report of V1.8 it doesnt look like there will be much difference in prediction accuracy anyway, V1.6 TRIAL=3 NUMBERS FROM 10- 50% OF THE TIME, V1.8 ODDS REPORT = 3 NUMBERS FROM 9 -33.3% OF THE TIME. Im also not into the fact of using the same predicted numbers on the second draw, as this doubles costs.just an observation.

Reply #2

reddog — Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:08:14 GMT

yea, I'm pretty disgusted with this slow developement.

Reply #1

spock — Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:41:34 GMT

With all this talk about free predictions i wonder if we will get it for xmas??LS1.6 is a wast of time..And money.

Guru V1.8- sep,oct,nov,dec,jan??

paul762 — Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:41:38 GMT

any sort of time frame avai