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• Todd

  

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• JADELottery

  

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  Interesting Read.

  Opinion Reserved, for now.

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• CDanaT

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Player$ on Apr 13, 2018

  Rcbbuckeye and Todd, I am not newbie on Lottery Post – in the past I’ve had an account here with numerous posts – I just can’t retrieve it. So what?

  What the number of posts has to do with the subject of this post? How the fact that I don’t have many posts (yet) makes this information impossible to be true?

  How many people you helped to win BIG with your thousands of posts? I mean, really BIG and not just some breadcrumbs from somebody’s banquet table, what they can do by themselves?

  Raven 62, Is it so hard to understand why this ex-official have chosen to be “anonymous”? Would you want him to go to the media light with this story and then suddenly commit “suicide” at 73 and become the martyr of truth? Multi-billion industry is uncapable of that?

  Typical in all forums – if you have nothing to say about the topic, go after the source…lmao

  CDanaT,

  I may know more about statistics and math than you, but it’s not the point.

  “NEVER had more than 4 numbers right (on 1 line) with chosen numbers, done quick picks, been in pools, reviewed stats. etc.” This is my point – what if no matter how hard you try, somebody has the ability to nullify all your efforts and steer the outcome his way?

  Would you like that (spoiled ending)? No matter if it’s a game or entertainment, or both?

  You can repeat your mantra “ITS A FRIGGIN' GAME OF CHANCE (and it’s not rigged)” as many times as you like and call “negative” anybody who doesn’t see things your way - it’s your choice. FYI, I am neither negative nor stressed – are you diagnosing over the internet? lol

  If I got angry for a minute after reading this story, it’s understandable (everybody would, if it were true).

  “Don't play, don't talk about and don't think about it” – isn’t what this forum is about? Discussing the lottery?

  Don’t others have the right to know what (possibly) is going on?

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  This is my last post in this thread – I posted and said everything I wanted to.

  As I said, multi-billion industry is capable of many things – even to have somebody monitoring the lottery forums and steering away from / flooding the important topics.

  Anybody with the brains will decide for him(her)self, if this story is the truth or not and act accordingly.
  

  Allegedly you know more about math and statistics than I do. 

  Assumptions(which you are doing) are the mothers of all screw-ups. (see Eddie Tipton)

  IF there  wasn't a winner at a game of chance, I would think that something was wrong. I would greatly appreciate knowing about deception backed by facts, not some article that was posted on that bastion of truth known as"Google"

  Your postings are in fact condescending and Bigoted..."I know more about statistics and math than you"

  In your reply to Todd earlier you stated:

  "your fierce attacking this post can only mean 2 things - Either you are affiliated with the FL Lotto(and all written above) or you are angry (just like me)"

   

  You made another assumption that Todd was angry and a FL. Lotto affiliate. He brought forth statements of concern about your posting and even suggested you should report the "alleged" illegalities to the proper legal authorities. Seems reasonable and fair.

  
  You typed in a reply to me above,"FYI, I am neither negative or stressed"..... FYI, Emotional Stress includes resentment, frustration, having fear, grief or sadness and anger.

  I am glad it was your last gormless reply and thank you for posting. Have a good weekend and good luck with your life choices.

  Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.
• Duchess69

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Apr 13, 2018

  What username did you post under previously?

  Smh I knew it

  
• grwurston

  

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  How was the article posted?  anonymously 

  The article was posted by ExLottoOff      Obviously not a real name. 

  So anonymously would describe 99.9% of the people on LP.

  I am not in favor of RNG's. But everyone is quick to complain when they think the RNG's have been rigged against the players, or whenever something just doesn't happen according to what people think should happen statistically or otherwise. And rightfully so, as has been proven in the past.  So why should ball drawings get a free pass?

  I know people are going to get fired up over this but tell me. Who has NOT watched a ball drawing and at some point said, "Are you kidding me?"  "Where the hell did that come from?"  "I don't believe that came out again!"  "I can't believe all these doubles."  "Another triple? That's the third one this week."  "When is the (pick your digit) gonna come out? It hasn't hit in 3 weeks."  Or something like that. Not because you lost, maybe you didn't even play, but just because it's so weird for that to happen. 

  Admit it, you didn't think just for a minute, that it's not all random? That something was going on? We've all done it. Things have been kept secret from the public before. Well, what if this guy is right? 

  

  When playing the lottery the thing that should matter the most is: Are you winning more than you spend?  Good  Luck!!!
• Artist77

  

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  I remember a member who used to post that he worked for the lottery then later admitted it was false. Maybe it was import chips???  I called him the I-chipster. 

  As they say in DC, if you see something, say something.

  And yes, random numbers do repeat and cluster sometimes.

     DO NOT BE AFRAID.

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• thamizhpayan

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Apr 12, 2018

  You ask at the end of your story, "What do you think of that?"

  I'll tell you what I think:  If you believe the lottery is cheating, then you either go to the police or you retract your statement.  Nobody has any idea who you are or if you are telling the truth about anything, including working at the Florida Lottery.

  I have seen countless people over the years come on here and spin tales about the lottery being rigged.  Obviously, most of the time it is just someone who doesn't win very often being angry and lashing out.  In one spectacular case (Eddie Tipton) it was true.

  Rigging the lottery is a major crime.  Eddie Tipton was sentenced to prison for 25 years for doing it.  If you have witnessed a crime, then I believe you are in jeopardy if you don't report it.

  I look forward to reading about your police report in the local Florida news.

  
• thamizhpayan

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Player$ on Apr 12, 2018

  Todd, I never said it was my story, I just found it while googling "Florida Lotto rigged" just for fun. So, since I never witnessed anything like this, I can't go to the police.

  "I have no idea who they are or why they are posting this diatribe" I think, I explained it clearly, isn't it? I am just an average player, who got tired to lose and (as a scientist) was looking for another explanation for that (it's either not so good player/system or somebody else, who can undermine/nullify all your efforts in the end!).

  I don't know about "countless people over the years" and their tales, this story just got me - it looked sincere and not like whining of another loser.

  Your fierce attacking this post can mean only 2 things - either you are affiliated with FL Lotto (and all written above) or you are angry (just like me) because this post may be the unpleasant truth (I am sorry to burst your bubble).

  And the meaning of this post is "Forewarned is forearmed". If we know about the problem, we can look for the solution. Demand more rigorous public presence and control at FL drawings, e.g. (I regret that I found this story after I left Tallahassee, otherwise I would do it myself).
  

  "Anything" you search on google will give out 100s of articles. Genuinity flies off the window once you start reading sites other long standing media sites.

  Fake news - text and video dominate a lot nowadays.

  Many you tube videos titles and thumbnails are far away from actual content just to get likes.

  That was misused a lot earlier. That's why you tube started restricting whom to pay - its a combination of number of subscribers, number of views, likes/hates, etc.,
• thamizhpayan

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Apr 13, 2018

  I remember a member who used to post that he worked for the lottery then later admitted it was false. Maybe it was import chips???  I called him the I-chipster. 

  As they say in DC, if you see something, say something.

  And yes, random numbers do repeat and cluster sometimes.

  The one thing that came to my mind was the women who was not in the towers on 911 day. She ended up joining hands and acted as being part of those groups. The same mentality is with people who create fake news/threads - diverting attention towards them, psychologically playing with others mind and "I didn't win so it's rigged" attitude.
• LiveInGreenBay

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Apr 12, 2018

  You ask at the end of your story, "What do you think of that?"

  I'll tell you what I think:  If you believe the lottery is cheating, then you either go to the police or you retract your statement.  Nobody has any idea who you are or if you are telling the truth about anything, including working at the Florida Lottery.

  I have seen countless people over the years come on here and spin tales about the lottery being rigged.  Obviously, most of the time it is just someone who doesn't win very often being angry and lashing out.  In one spectacular case (Eddie Tipton) it was true.

  Rigging the lottery is a major crime.  Eddie Tipton was sentenced to prison for 25 years for doing it.  If you have witnessed a crime, then I believe you are in jeopardy if you don't report it.

  I look forward to reading about your police report in the local Florida news.

  Something just doesn't make sense about what Eddie Tipton was able to do.  OK so he programmed the RNG computer to spit out a certain set of numbers on a certain date.  But what about the pre-draws?  Did all the pre-draws on that date contain those same pre-programmed numbers?

  Never give up. 
• Todd

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Apr 15, 2018

  Something just doesn't make sense about what Eddie Tipton was able to do.  OK so he programmed the RNG computer to spit out a certain set of numbers on a certain date.  But what about the pre-draws?  Did all the pre-draws on that date contain those same pre-programmed numbers?

  That's a good question.  I'm not sure that they do pre-draws with computerized drawings.

   

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• rcbbuckeye

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by LiveInGreenBay on Apr 15, 2018

  Something just doesn't make sense about what Eddie Tipton was able to do.  OK so he programmed the RNG computer to spit out a certain set of numbers on a certain date.  But what about the pre-draws?  Did all the pre-draws on that date contain those same pre-programmed numbers?

  If they did have pre-draws, I suppose it was possible for him to program his numbers for the official draw only.

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• KY Floyd

  

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  I can't imagine why anyone os getting worked up about the lottery being rigged when some pizza place in Washington is running a child sex ring out of the basement they don't have.
• Todd

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by KY Floyd on Apr 16, 2018

  I can't imagine why anyone os getting worked up about the lottery being rigged when some pizza place in Washington is running a child sex ring out of the basement they don't have.

  That doesn't make any sense.  Is there a reason people shouldn't be concerned with more than one thing at a time?

   

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• CARBOB

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Apr 15, 2018

  That's a good question.  I'm not sure that they do pre-draws with computerized drawings.

  Todd, I don't believe it would make a difference, pre-draws or not. All he has to do is program the number of pre-draws in the drawing. Which brings up another question, what if they changed the number of pre-draws every drawing? Would that have stopped the rigged draw??