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Teabaggers and other Republicans now claiming Thanksgiving is a lesson in socialism

John Aravosis (DC) on 11/21/2010 01:00:00 PM

You know who else used to rewrite history to their own political advantage?  The Soviets.  These guys are amazing.  And of course, as always, the historians say they're completely wrong. And it's not just the Teabaggers, it's Dick Armey, their patron, and Rush Limbaugh. It's modern conservatism that passing this lie.  From the NYT:

In the Tea Party view of the holiday, the first settlers were actually early socialists. They realized the error of their collectivist ways and embraced capitalism, producing a bumper year, upon which they decided that it was only right to celebrate the glory of the free market and private property.

Historians quibble with this interpretation.
Bradford did get rid of the common course — but it was in 1623, after the first Thanksgiving, and not because the system wasn’t working. The Pilgrims just didn’t like it. In the accounts of colonists, Mr. Pickering said, “there was griping and groaning.”

“Bachelors didn’t want to feed the wives of married men, and women don’t want to do the laundry of the bachelors,” he said.

The real reason agriculture became more profitable over the years, Mr. Pickering said, is that the Pilgrims were getting better at farming crops like corn that had been unknown to them in England.

As for Jamestown, there was famine. But historians dispute the characterization of the colony as a collectivist society. “To call it socialism is wildly inaccurate,” said Karen Ordahl Kupperman, a historian at New York University and the author of “The Jamestown Project.” “It was a contracted company, and everybody worked for the company. I mean, is Halliburton a socialist scheme?”
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Pelosi's new mission: Limit Obama deals with GOP

Pelosi's new mission: Limit Obama deals with GOP

 

 

JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS
The Associated Press
Wednesday, November 24, 2010; 3:10 PM

 

 

WASHINGTON -- Hers was the face on the grainy negative TV ads that helped defeat scores of Democrats. His agenda, re-election chances and legacy are on the line. Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California, chosen after a messy family feud among Democrats to remain as their leader in the new Congress, and President Barack Obama share a keen interest in repairing their injured party after this month's staggering losses.

But Pelosi's mandate is diverging from the president's at a critical time, with potentially damaging consequences for Obama's ability to cut deals with Republicans in the new Congress.

Their partnership is strained after an election in which Pelosi and many Democrats feel the White House failed them by muddling the party's message and being too slow to provide cover for incumbents who cast tough votes for Obama's marquee initiatives.

Pelosi will lead Democrats "in pulling on the president's shirttails to make sure that he doesn't move from center-right to far-right," said Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif., a co-chair of the liberal Progressive Caucus in the House. "We think if he'd done less compromising in the last two years, there's a good chance we'd have had a jobs bill that would have created real jobs, and then we wouldn't even be worrying about having lost elections."

Behind Democrats' decision to keep Pelosi as their leader after historic losses lies intense concern among liberals who dominate the party's ranks on Capitol Hill: They fear Obama will go too far in accommodating the GOP in the new era of divided government, and they see Pelosi as a counterweight.

She's played that role before. When Democrats panicked after losing their Senate supermajority last winter, Pelosi rebuffed feelers by then-White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and others to settle for a smaller health care bill. She derided the approach as "kiddie care" and pushed forward with the sweeping overhaul she painstakingly steered through the House by a razor-thin margin.

A more recent example is Pelosi's stated refusal to consider extending Bush-era income tax cuts for the highest brackets past their January expiration. Obama's aides recently signaled he might be open to doing so temporarily if that were the only way of preserving the tax cuts for the middle class - a bargain the president had steadfastly resisted before the election.

Such a deal wouldn't be acceptable to her or House Democrats, Pelosi told the president last week.

Pelosi "can provide that balance with the White House," said Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md. House Democrats "want to make sure that they've got somebody at the table with the president, looking him eye-to-eye and saying basically, 'You've got some people who have been very, very loyal to you - not just progressives but moderates, too - and they truly believe that that's not the right thing to do.' "

The White House says Obama and Pelosi have uniform goals and a proven track record of working together, and insists they're on the same page on important issues, particularly preserving the health care and financial regulation laws enacted this year against Republicans' promised attempts to roll them back.

"The president and Speaker Pelosi have enjoyed a remarkably productive working relationship over the last two years, and he looks forward to continuing to work with her on an agenda to strengthen the economy, create jobs and move America forward," said Josh Earnest, a White House spokesman.

The president isn't going to be in a position during the next two years to work exclusively with either Democrats or Republicans, his aides argue. His challenge will be determining - with input from Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, among others - what concessions he needs from the GOP to forge a good compromise, the aides say.

People close to Pelosi say she trusts the president - perhaps moreso than some of her allies in Congress do - to defend core Democratic principles in his dealings with the GOP.

Some Democrats argue that Pelosi's liberal streak might help the president in that context - a bad cop to Obama's good cop.

"In his negotiations with the Republicans, (Obama) needs to be able to say, 'Look, you say you're not going to compromise, but I've got Nancy Pelosi over here who is very passionate about these issues, and I have to listen to what she's saying,'" Cummings said.

It's not likely to be a tidy process.

A band of centrist Democrats who last week failed to oust Pelosi in favor of a fresh, more moderate face for the party is ready to side with Republicans on key issues next year. They say they're eager to work with Obama and the GOP on middle-of-the-road initiatives that are unlikely to be embraced by Pelosi or her liberal allies.

"I'd like to think there's an opportunity to do that," said Rep. Jim Matheson, D-Utah, a leader of the conservative "Blue Dog" Democrats.

The coalition, comprised mostly of Southerners who were once known as "Yellow Dog" Democrats, was born after the Republican takeover of 1994, when it was said they felt "choked blue" by their colleagues on the left.

In those days, Matheson noted, they worked with then-President Bill Clinton on welfare reform and balancing the budget - things that enraged liberals and led to angry accusations that the president was betraying his own party. Welfare is "an example of being honest brokers, working together to get things done, and that's what Blue Dogs want to do."

It's not what Pelosi or many other Democrats have in mind.

Rep. Brian Higgins, D-N.Y., said Democrats learned from the last two years and their shellacking at the polls that "we need to be more aggressive with the White House. They were looking for what was acceptable and then moving toward that, instead of what was important, and moving toward that," Higgins said. "We need to be true to our principles."

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Full-body scanners popping up at courthouses

Full-body scanners popping up at courthouses

AP

 

P. SOLOMON BANDA

Associated Press 

Tue Nov 23, 9:21 pm ET

CASTLE ROCK, Colo. – Taking a trip during the holidays isn't the only time that people might get a full-body scan to pass through security. People heading to court to testify, get a restraining order, pay a ticket or answer criminal charges could also face a full-body scan at courthouses.

The U.S. Marshals Service, which is in charge of protecting federal judges nationwide, is exploring their use at federal courthouses. And two state courthouses in Douglas and El Paso counties in Colorado have already deployed full-body scanners that use radio waves to detect all objects on a person, including paper.

A guard in a separate room monitors the gray images with pixelated faces and genital areas, and the images aren't stored on a computer. officials said. All visitors to the Douglas County Courthouse in Castle Rock, Colo., undergo full-body scans, while guards at the El Paso County Judicial Center in Colorado Springs use the scanners during peak hours.

Angela Hellenbrand received a quick pat down Tuesday by security guard Mike Couts at the Castle Rock courthouse about 30 miles south of Denver. A guard in another room monitoring the full-body scans alerted Couts to an object in Hellenbrand's left rear pocket. It was the paper backing of a "Junior Deputy Sheriff" sticker that one of the guards had given her two young boys.

"It's OK," Hellenbrand said. "It's how they do security here. It's my second time through."

TSA officers, who handle security at airports, have been called molesters and threatened as they try to carry out patdowns called for in security measures for people who refuse to go through full-body scanners, including some that use X-rays.

The new security techniques are meant to thwart plots by would-be terrorists to use liquid explosives and bombs hidden in shoes and inside underwear. Court observers note that the threat in a courtroom is somewhat different.

"What we are still worried about at a courthouse is angry divorce litigants with a gun," said Sam Kamin, a law professor at the University of Denver Sturm College of Law. "Metal detectors are pretty good at that."

Still, court officials note that evolving technology in materials, including plastic guns and knives, aren't detected by the 1970s technology of metal detectors.

"Although we have no current plans for deployment, the U.S. Marshals Service believes in the technology," said Washington-based Michael Prout, assistant director for judicial security for the U.S. marshals. "We will continue to explore the use of body scanners as a security measure for the federal judiciary."

Prout declined to discuss the results of a full-body screening test, citing sensitive law enforcement and procurement information.

In a statement, the marshals said they didn't receive any complaints from people passing through the scanners during the tests. The images of the full-body scans were saved on a computer hard drive, but weren't accessible without an administrative password and weren't reviewed by the marshals, according to the agency.

However, privacy became an issue when it was learned the images were stored. The Marshals Service received a request for the information under the Freedom of Information Act, but it wasn't immediately known who made the request.

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Obama's job approval sinks to 39%

Top of the Ticket

 

Political commentary from Andrew Malcolm

 

Lowest ever: Obama job approval sinks to 39%, as even Democrats' support melts away

November 23, 2010 | 3:22 am

 

Another Sinking Ship

President Obama has passed the Big 4-0 -- going the wrong way.

Turns out voters were not simply satisfied to spank the Democrat and his party in the Nov. 2 midterm elections with historic losses in the House of Representatives.

Obama's job approval rating as calculated by the Zogby Poll has now sunk to 39%, a new low for his 22-month presidency that began with so much hope and excitement and poll numbers up around 70. As recently as Sept. 20, his job approval was 49%.

A whopping 60% now disapprove of his job, up from 51% disapproval Sept. 20.

Obama now trails in hypothetical 2012 matchups against Republicans Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and the next Bush, Jeb.

And, oh, my! Lookee here! Obama has even fallen into a statistical tie with none other than Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor.

How embarrassing that is because other polls have shown a majority of Americans believe she is unqualified for the presidency. So it appears many have now decided, on second thought after a nearly two-year test drive, Obama looks that way too.Democrat president Barack Obama enjoys a good laugh before the 2010 midterm elections

Obama began losing the support of independents in the summer of 2009, as he responded to polls showing voter concerns focused on the economy by staging 59 town hall meetings on healthcare. Independents were a crucial part of his coalition win in 2008 but have now dwindled to 39%.

Only 6% of Republicans, not surprisingly, approve of Obama's job performance. But younger voters, also crucial in the ex-state senator's convincing defeat of John McCain, now approve by only 42%.

Nearly 7 in 10 likely voters say the country is on the wrong track, rarely a good sign for incumbents.

But, Zogby notes, perhaps most ominous for the president is that he's now losing support among his own party people. His approval plopped nearly 10% in just one week, from 78% down to 72% in Zogby's latest read.

Obama, John Zogby writes, "is failing to please more than one-fourth of his own party’s voters. This is a perilous position for the President.

"Conventional wisdom calls for him to reach for the center and assume that Democrats will stay with him in 2012. But as we saw in the mid-terms, Democrats can't win without strong turnout from the young and minorities, both of which are demographics that need more motivation than others to vote."

Former governor Romney fares the best against Obama (44-38%), then comes Gingrich (43%-39%), then another former governor, Jeb Bush (40%-38%), who says he is not running. Palin ties (40%-41%). Obama does, however, destroy developer Donald Trump (39%-29%) and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg (32%-13%). (A separate Quinnipiac Poll Monday found Obama in dead heats with either Romney or former Gov. Mike Huckabee.)

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Jimmy Carter: Fox commentators have 'deliberately distorted' news

Carter: Fox commentators have ‘deliberately distorted’ news

Kevin Bogardus - 11/21/10 03:00 PM ET

Jimmy Carter said Sunday that Fox News commentators such as Glenn Beck have “deliberately distorted” the news.

Speaking on CNN’s "Reliable Sources" Sunday, the former Democratic president took aim at the cable news channel climate, often a target for President Obama, and says he tries to avoid the cable chatter.

“The talk shows with Glenn Beck and others on Fox News, I think, have deliberately distorted the news. And it’s become highly competitive,” Carter said. “And my Republican friends say that MSNBC might be just as biased on the other side in supporting the Democratic Party, the liberal element.” 

The ex-president said opinions about the two channels were “part of give and take” in politics in the United States. Carter also believes CNN has suffered from trying to remain nonpartisan in comparison to Fox and MSNBC.  

“And I think CNN, more than others, has kind of tried to play the middle to their detriment as far as viewership is concerned and profits are concerned,” Carter said. 

Carter spoke about his relationship with the press during his one term in the White House. He said he was treated unfairly by reporters while president, but Carter also blamed himself, saying he could have reached out more to the press.

“Yes, I think I should have had a much more assiduous desire when I got into the White House to court the friendly relationship and a compatible and mutually trustworthy relationship with the key members of the press corps,” Carter said. “There's no doubt about that.” 

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North Korea bombs South Korea

North Korea bombs South Korea's Yeonpyeong island; 2 dead, 13 wounded in attack: report

Michael Sheridan
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Tuesday, November 23rd 2010, 6:15 AM

Smoke billow from Yeonpyeong island near the border against North Korea, in South Korea.

AP/YonhapSmoke billow from Yeonpyeong island near the border against North Korea, in South Korea.

   North Korea shot dozens of rounds of artillery onto the populated South Korean island near their disputed western border.

AP/YonhapNorth Korea shot dozens of rounds of artillery onto the populated South Korean island near their disputed western border.

 

Tensions between North and South Korea have boiled over, with shots being fired by both sides leaving at least two marines dead and wounding more than 13 others.

The conflict came to a head on Tuesday when the North fired artillery at an island belonging to the South in the Yellow Sea, according to military officials.

At least 100 rounds fell on Yeonpyeong, which houses a military garrison and is home to some 1,600 residents, according to the Yonhap news agency. However, the Defense Ministry has not confirmed how many rounds actually struck the island.

In response to the attack, the South Korean military fired more than 80 rounds into North Korea and launched fighter jets. The exchange of artillery lasted about an hour, CNN reports.

Images of smoke spewing into the sky over the small island were broadcast on Yonhap television, and showed several houses on fire. Residents have begun to flee to the South Korean mainland some 90 miles away.

"I was at home when I was surprised by the sounds of bomb explosions," a 35-year-old resident told the Korean news agency. "As I stepped out of my home, I saw the entire village had already turned into a sea of fire."

The attack began around 2:34 p.m. local time, a military official told Yonhap. Tensions between the neighboring nations have worsened since earlier this year, when a North Korean torpedo sank a South Korean navy ship, killing 46 people. It was also revealed this weekend that the North has secretly constructed a facility that allows it to produce low-enriched uranium.

The artillery fire followed a routine military drill by the South near Yeonpyeong island, Yonhap reports. The nine-day practice occurs annually at the site and started on Monday.

"North Korea's indiscriminate artillery attack on Yeonpyeong Island is a clear military provocation on the Republic of Korea," Hong Sang-pyo, senior secretary for public affairs at the presidential office Cheong Wa Dae, said in a statement. "Furthermore, recklessly shelling against civilians can never be tolerated."

The United States, which has tens of thousands of troops stationed in South Korea, was also quick to blast the North Korean attack.

"The United States strongly condemns this attack and calls on North Korea to halt its belligerent action," the White House said in a statement. The U.S. "is firmly committed to the defense of our ally, the Republic of Korea, and to the maintenance of regional peace and stability."

A U.S. official, speaking on anonymity, told Reuters that U.S. forces in Korea were closely monitoring the situation. But no U.S. troops were involved in the response to the North's artillery fire, the official said.

There are around 28,000 U.S. forces stationed in South Korea.

Officials in China has asked that both sides remain calm.

"We express our concern over the situation. The situation is to be verified," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said at a regularly scheduled media briefing in Beijing, according to Fox News.

Technically, the two Koreas have been at war for nearly 50 years. The Korean War, which began in 1950, ended only with a truce in 1953, but it was never officially ended.

With News Wire Services



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Sarah Palin would lose to President Obama if election was held today

Sarah Palin would lose to President Obama by 8 points if election was held today: poll

Nina Mandell
Daily News Staff Writer
Monday, November 22nd 2010, 1:46 PM

Sarah Palin trails President Obama by 8 points in the latest Quinnipiac poll.

Bower/Schreiber/APSarah Palin trails President Obama by 8 points in the latest Quinnipiac poll.

 

Voters don't think President Obama deserves a second turn –

but they don't want Sarah Palin either, according to a new Quinnipiac University survey.

Obama leads the former vice presidential candidate by 8 percentage points in the survey, but is in a statistical dead heat with Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee.

That news may come as a shock to Palin who told Barbara Walters in an interview set to air Dec. 9 on ABC that she believed she could beat Obama in 2012.

"I believe I could," she told Walters.

That comment was met with near-panic by both sides – Republicans who believe if she got the party's nomination she would be trampled and Democrats who fear she could win.

In an interview with Larry King that aired Thursday night, Vice President Biden dismissed the TLC reality show star’s chances of booting his boss out of the White House.

"Were I a Republican senator or a Republican political leader, I would look and say, 'Wait, she's got a good chance of getting the nomination.' But look, it's hard enough for us to figure out our side of the aisle, let alone go over and sort of handicap whether she can win or lose."

When asked if she was his preferred opponent, Biden replied, "You know, my mom used to have an expression, 'Be careful what you wish for, Joe, you may get it.' So I never underestimate anyone. But I believe President Obama would be in very good shape."

When asked a similar question on MSNBC’s "Morning Joe" on Friday, Biden laughed before carefully answering. "I don't think she could beat President Obama, but she's always underestimated," he said. "I think I shouldn't say anymore."

While the election is less than two years away, speculation that Palin is gearing up for the run has been growing more rampant by the day.

On Sunday, the Guardian, a British newspaper, reported that her aides had been looking at office space as headquarters for the Iowa caucus campaign.

But the Des Moines Register repudiated that report, saying that the aide mentioned was merely a conservative Jew who was scouting out Kosher eating places for him to eat when Palin stopped there on her book tour.



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TSA pats down shirtless boy sparks controversy

Utah man posts video of TSA searching shirtless boy

 

Erin alberty

The Salt Lake Tribune

 

Published Nov 22, 2010 12:08AM
Updated 5 hours ago Updated Nov 22, 2010 12:18AM

A cell phone video taken Friday at a Salt Lake City International Airport security checkpoint is fanning controversy over Transportation Security Administration search methods.

The video, posted on YouTube by Utah Valley University student Luke Tait, shows a young boy being patted down while he is wearing no shirt. The filmer, Luke Tait, wrote that "the boy was shy so the TSA couldn’t complete" the search.

The child was physically resisting agents, Tait said.

"Twice before the video starts, his dad had to hold him and pulled his arms up in a V-shape to allow the TSA agent to continue," he told The Salt Lake Tribune.

The father pulled the boy’s shirt off "in frustration," prompting an agent to shout, "Sir, sir!" Tait said.

In a statement posted late Sunday to the TSA’s blog, a spokesperson wrote that the father removed the boy’s shirt "in an effort to expedite the screening."

"No complaints were filed and the father was standing by his son for the entire procedure," the blog states.

Tait said he walked toward the father and son to talk with them after agents sent them into the terminal, but a man in a dark suit pulled him aside. The man had just been speaking with TSA agents, Tait said, but he did not show a badge or identify himself.

"He started to question me: ‘Why was I recording the procedures of TSA?’ ‘What are your plans with this video?’ " Tait said. "I said it looked like something was going on; I never [before] saw a shirtless young boy getting patted down."

The man then told Tait to delete the video in front of him, arguing the video invaded the family’s privacy.

"I said, ‘I’m not going to do that,’ ... and left for my gate."

As for the removed shirt, the TSA statement stressed that passengers were not asked to disrobe.

"You should not remove clothing (other than shoes, coats and jackets) at a TSA checkpoint," the blog states. "If you’re asked to remove your clothing, you should ask for a supervisor or manager."

Tait’s video, which had been viewed nearly 190,000 times on YouTube as of Sunday night, was posted on the heels of debate over whether pat-downs and full-body scans are invasive security measures.

TSA head John Pistole last week defended the pat-downs against criticism that travelers should not have to submit to full-body scans or submit to a pat-down, including over-the-clothing contact with the subjects’ genital areas.

"Clearly it’s invasive, it’s not comfortable," Pistole said of the scans and pat-downs during an interview on CNN’s "State of the Union." But, he added, "if we are to detect terrorists, who have again proven innovative and creative in their design and implementation of bombs that are going to blow up airplanes and kill people, then we have to do something that prevents that."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

 

LINK TO VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skkCpnCm7iM

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Keith Olbermann goes after Newt Gingrich

Keith Olbermann hits out on Twitter after Newt Gingrich takes shot at MSNBC host on C-Span

Nina Mandell
Daily News Staff Writer
Sunday, November 21st 2010, 7:57 PM

Keith Olbermann hit back at Newt Gingrich's claim he hosted a biased political debate.

MSNBC; Smialowski/GettyKeith Olbermann hit back at Newt Gingrich's claim he hosted a biased political debate.

Newt Gingrich and Keith Olbermann are at it again.

The two haven't gotten along since Olbermann slammed Gingrich for his remarks on the First Amendment in 2006, and have continued to spar over issues including welfare and other policies.

Now four years later, the former House Speaker told C-Span this morning that if Presidential debate organizers wanted him to participate in their forums, they would have to agree to some of his demands – most importantly, no Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews as the moderators.

NBC, which employs both Olbermann and Matthews, is co-hosting the first Republican presidential debate in the spring of 2011 with Politico.

"I would not participate if it was a hostile reporter asking 'gotcha' questions with a certain time limit," he said on C-Span’s Washington Journal. "There's no possibility that I would ever go to a debate and have (MSNBC's Keith) Olbermann or (MSNBC's) Chris Matthews asking questions."

But Gingrich prompted a re-upping of the historical feud when he mistakenly said he thought Olbermann and Matthews had co-hosted a debate a few years ago.

"I watched the debate a couple of years ago and it was an embarrassment because they were so relentlessly hostile and they were so left-wing that every question they asked of the Republicans was designed to embarrass and divide the Republicans," Gingrich said on the show. "And every question they asked the Democrats was designed to make them look good. Well, why would we participate in that?"

Upon hearing the comments, Olbermann immediately took to Twitter to ridicule Gingrich.

"Just read Gingrich ripping me for my questions last time I moderated a GOP debate," the MSNBC host tweeted. "But I've NEVER moderated a GOP debate!"

He punctuated his post by adding the Twitter hashtag #delusional, a winking gesture to make fun of his opponent. "On C-Span, Newt appears to think Chris Matthews and I co-moderated a GOP debate AND a Democratic debate. We did neither," he later tweeted, also adding the Twitter hashtag #NewtsNuts.

His supporters flooded Twitter to help mock Gingrich’s comments, adding their own tongue-in-cheek insults which Olbermann re-posted.

"You were terrible that time you hosted the Oscars too!" one supporter tweeted.

"Yeah, Olbermann, you messed up the Lincoln-Douglas debate too," another wrote.

Olbermann supporters continued to pile on the exaggerated insults, joking that he did a terrible job as the Vikings quarterback today, failed as the 2008 GOP presidential nominee, was the cause of rain at Woodstock, broke up the Beatles, and more.

Olbermann, clearly having gotten his point across, did take responsibility for one thing.

"On the other hand," he admitted, "that WAS me in those Boston Market commercials."

As of Sunday night, Gingrich had not responded – at least not coherently. At approximately 6:30 he tweeted, "Uyyy."



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