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AllenB

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May 8, 2025, 10:52 am

What is the definition of a Lottery System?

A Lottery System is any process ending with a Guess. The System is made up of an operator and a tool. Quick Pics are a System where you let the machine guess for you. “Wheels” are not Systems, they are Tools that create combinations from a formatted input of Data about the Draw and it’s elements. Wheels are populated by Filtering Tools expressed in Code elements and Series each with a limited set of values that must be “Guessed”. The Inventory of Combinations is reduced by the number of “Guesses” that are made. The Game becomes a Series of “Guessed Filter Values”.

Some Here do a variety of Filtering Processes. Excel and other programs Tabulate the historical values of Elements and let you Select Values that Drive the Filter. I have spent a lot of time working on my Lottery Tool. I have huge Excel files that produce Combinations matching the “Guess” to provide the entire list of combinations matching any element value that is selected.

I spend most of my time working on the Filtering Tool. Building over the years a color-coded kaleidoscope of Drawing Elements. Kaleidoscope is an apt term for the playback of the draw history. Just like the one I had as a kid, you bever know what you get with a slight turn. A Drawn Combination is rendered into Positional Elements at fixed positions in the Kaleidoscope. The Positional Elements form an Elemental Series. The Draw becomes a script of these Element Values. The Filter process lets me select a Set of at least 5 Position Values from anywhere in the Script. For Clarity, a Positional Element example is Odd or Even. A Series of Element Values example is the Odd Count-Even Count (05,14,23,32,41,50). Series Filters apply to all “Wheeled” Combinations from the Position Filters.

The Game becomes the Script that is The Kaleidoscope produced by rolling through the Draw History. There is no escaping the random Grip on the trigger that has to match the Selected Script Values. “Guess” Wrong on a Position Element and you Eliminate the Possibility of getting a winner in that position. Get a Series of Element Value wrong and there goes the best of your “Wheeled” Combinations out the window.

The System is the hard part. The “Guesses” have fewer options but are nonetheless Random as well. The Crickets have built a beautiful Kaleidoscope and continue to add and refine the view, but just like Forrest Gump said “You never know what your gonna get.” In the next draw.
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May 8, 2025, 11:24 am

Quote: Originally posted by Tucker Black on May 7, 2025
A Rubik's Cube is not an unknown future event. Simply slide the pieces around so that the colors line up just as they were to begin with. Nothing about it is unknowable.

The outcome of a future random number is unknowable. You would need a time machine, and those things don't exist.

To someone whose never seen a Rubik's Cube before, they would think lining up the colors is unknowable until they see others do it and learn how it's done.

The technology that exists today was once deemed "unknowable".

Everything seems unknowable until someone knows it and shows that it can be done.
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May 8, 2025, 11:27 am

Best guess with the tools available... exactly!

Have an EXCELlent day!
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May 8, 2025, 11:31 am

Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on May 8, 2025
What is the definition of a Lottery System?

A Lottery System is any process ending with a Guess. The System is made up of an operator and a tool. Quick Pics are a System where you let the machine guess for you. “Wheels” are not Systems, they are Tools that create combinations from a formatted input of Data about the Draw and it’s elements. Wheels are populated by Filtering Tools expressed in Code elements and Series each with a limited set of values that must be “Guessed”. The Inventory of Combinations is reduced by the number of “Guesses” that are made. The Game becomes a Series of “Guessed Filter Values”.

Some Here do a variety of Filtering Processes. Excel and other programs Tabulate the historical values of Elements and let you Select Values that Drive the Filter. I have spent a lot of time working on my Lottery Tool. I have huge Excel files that produce Combinations matching the “Guess” to provide the entire list of combinations matching any element value that is selected.

I spend most of my time working on the Filtering Tool. Building over the years a color-coded kaleidoscope of Drawing Elements. Kaleidoscope is an apt term for the playback of the draw history. Just like the one I had as a kid, you bever know what you get with a slight turn. A Drawn Combination is rendered into Positional Elements at fixed positions in the Kaleidoscope. The Positional Elements form an Elemental Series. The Draw becomes a script of these Element Values. The Filter process lets me select a Set of at least 5 Position Values from anywhere in the Script. For Clarity, a Positional Element example is Odd or Even. A Series of Element Values example is the Odd Count-Even Count (05,14,23,32,41,50). Series Filters apply to all “Wheeled” Combinations from the Position Filters.

The Game becomes the Script that is The Kaleidoscope produced by rolling through the Draw History. There is no escaping the random Grip on the trigger that has to match the Selected Script Values. “Guess” Wrong on a Position Element and you Eliminate the Possibility of getting a winner in that position. Get a Series of Element Value wrong and there goes the best of your “Wheeled” Combinations out the window.

The System is the hard part. The “Guesses” have fewer options but are nonetheless Random as well. The Crickets have built a beautiful Kaleidoscope and continue to add and refine the view, but just like Forrest Gump said “You never know what your gonna get.” In the next draw.

Sounds like a great system.

I wish you the best!
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May 8, 2025, 1:30 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Lotterologist on May 8, 2025
To someone whose never seen a Rubik's Cube before, they would think lining up the colors is unknowable until they see others do it and learn how it's done.

The technology that exists today was once deemed "unknowable".

Everything seems unknowable until someone knows it and shows that it can be done.

Every single person who has ever solved a Rubik's cube saw one for the first time in their lives. People are not born with this experience. Yet most of them can figure it out, and few think it's totally impossible to do.

When you gain the ability to predict the future, which is a bit harder than a Rubik's cube, let me know. That would be interesting.
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May 8, 2025, 1:46 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Tucker Black on May 8, 2025
Every single person who has ever solved a Rubik's cube saw one for the first time in their lives. People are not born with this experience. Yet most of them can figure it out, and few think it's totally impossible to do.

When you gain the ability to predict the future, which is a bit harder than a Rubik's cube, let me know. That would be interesting.

I have never claimed to be able to predict the future, but people often correctly predict future events based on the past.
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Jun 6, 2025, 12:15 am

Lost due to my system again. Pointless to blame the lottery if my system is flawed.
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Jun 6, 2025, 12:35 am

Quote: Originally posted by Lotterologist on Jun 6, 2025
Lost due to my system again. Pointless to blame the lottery if my system is flawed.

No, you lost due to bad luck. No system is flawed, but at the same time, no system works. The lottery numbers don't care how you choose your numbers.
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Jun 6, 2025, 12:46 am

Quote: Originally posted by Tucker Black on Jun 6, 2025
No, you lost due to bad luck. No system is flawed, but at the same time, no system works. The lottery numbers don't care how you choose your numbers.

Interesting comment...

Maybe it was because of bad luck...

Losing, like gravity and bad luck, is the natural flow of things.

Just like man had to devise a system (i.e the airplane) to overcome gravity, man has to devise a system to overcome losing and bad luck.
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Jun 6, 2025, 6:56 am

Creating systems is more enjoyable most times than actually playing. It is a game of using code and spreadsheets to make a better guess.

Try to learn a bit more with each attempt. My follower system was flawless in every detail with the exception of picking a winner... but while the most frequent follower did not happen enough in all of the columns, it started a journey down the path that I am currently on, which is to understand why the most expected result did not happen. I am not even at the "best guess" part but I have up skilled my code game along the way. I have not played a number in months, but manage to get closer to a best guess with each coding session or data analysis session. THIS is the fun part of the system stage for me, the actual playing is usually a disappointment because at the end of the day, a pick 3 guess still has 1:1,000 chance of appearing.

I enjoy the hobby, solving problems to bring ideas to life keeps me from getting stale at writing python or setting up spreadsheet formulas. When (not if) this idea fails to produce a better guess, I will come up with some other avenue to pursue. The journey is what it is all about.

Have an EXCELlent day!
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Jun 6, 2025, 9:00 am

Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on Jun 6, 2025
Creating systems is more enjoyable most times than actually playing. It is a game of using code and spreadsheets to make a better guess.

Try to learn a bit more with each attempt. My follower system was flawless in every detail with the exception of picking a winner... but while the most frequent follower did not happen enough in all of the columns, it started a journey down the path that I am currently on, which is to understand why the most expected result did not happen. I am not even at the "best guess" part but I have up skilled my code game along the way. I have not played a number in months, but manage to get closer to a best guess with each coding session or data analysis session. THIS is the fun part of the system stage for me, the actual playing is usually a disappointment because at the end of the day, a pick 3 guess still has 1:1,000 chance of appearing.

I enjoy the hobby, solving problems to bring ideas to life keeps me from getting stale at writing python or setting up spreadsheet formulas. When (not if) this idea fails to produce a better guess, I will come up with some other avenue to pursue. The journey is what it is all about.

Good luck on your journey.

I wish you the best!
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Jun 6, 2025, 1:32 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Tucker Black on Jun 6, 2025
No, you lost due to bad luck. No system is flawed, but at the same time, no system works. The lottery numbers don't care how you choose your numbers.

Bad luck is the natural flow of things in this "Murphy's Law world".

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Jun 6, 2025, 2:05 pm

Bad luck, like gravity, is never going away. The question is, how do you break away from it?

The man who understands this world, doesn't get discouraged when he loses.

For him, negative events don't occur unexpectedly.
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Jun 6, 2025, 2:50 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Tucker Black on Jun 6, 2025
No, you lost due to bad luck. No system is flawed, but at the same time, no system works. The lottery numbers don't care how you choose your numbers.

"No system is flawed, but at the same time, no system works."

Will YOU make up yo mind,..or STOPP 🚬 dat potent weed you got, Tucker Black...

Neeavaah encountered such cha "on the fence" member b4...

Everybody can tell, You're a pro at playing it safe.

-Stat$talker
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Jun 6, 2025, 4:06 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Stat$talker on Jun 6, 2025
"No system is flawed, but at the same time, no system works."

Will YOU make up yo mind,..or STOPP 🚬 dat potent weed you got, Tucker Black...

Neeavaah encountered such cha "on the fence" member b4...

Everybody can tell, You're a pro at playing it safe.

-Stat$talker

"Everybody can tell, You're a pro at playing it safe".And down voting peoples posts!🤣

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